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Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army Bell Ringers

Posted by on Dec. 2, 2013 at 7:01 PM
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As the holidays approach, the Salvation Army bell ringers are out in front of stores dunning shoppers for donations. If you care about gay rights, you'll skip their bucket in favor of a charity that doesn't actively discriminate against the LGBT community.

The Salvation Army has a history of active discrimination against gays and lesbians. While you might think you're helping the hungry and homeless by Thumbnail image for Why you shouldn't give to the Salvation Armydropping a few dollars in the bright red buckets, not everyone can share in the donations. Many LGBT people are rejected by the evangelical church charity because they're "sexually impure."

The church claims it holds "a positive view of human sexuality," but then clarifies that "sexual intimacy is understood as a gift of God to be enjoyed within the context of heterosexual marriage." The Salvation Army doesn't believe that gays and lesbians should ever know the intimacy of any loving relationship, instead teaching that "Christians whose sexual orientation is primarily or exclusively same-sex are called upon to embrace celibacy as a way of life."

On its webpage, the group claims that "the services of The Salvation Army are available to all who qualify, without regard to sexual orientation." While the words are nice, their actions speak volumes. They blatantly ignore the position statement and deny LGBT people services unless they renounce their sexuality, end same-sex relationships, or, in some cases, attend services "open to all who confess Christ as Savior and who accept and abide by The Salvation Army's doctrine and discipline." In other words, if you're gay or lesbian, you don't qualify.

The organization also has a record of actively lobbying governments worldwide for anti-gay policies - including an attempt to make consensual gay sex illegal. (Yes, you're paying lobbyists with those donations.)

After the break are some highlights from the evangelical Christian charity's recent anti-gay political lobbying, a handy video with more information, and a list of charities who don't discriminate against their clients and employees.

Since 1986 the Salvation Army has engaged in five major assaults on the LGBT community's civil rights and attempted to carve out exemptions that would allow them to deny gays and lesbians needed services as well as employment.

When New Zealand considered passage of the Homosexual Law Reform Act in 1986, the Salvation Army collected signatures in an attempt to get the legislation killed. The act decriminalized consensual sex between gay men. The measure passed over the charity's objections.
   In the United Kingdom, the Salvation Army actively pushed passage of an amendment to the Local Government Act. The amendment stated that local authorities "shall not intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality" or "promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship." The law has since been repealed, but it led many schools and colleges to close LGBT student organizations out of fear they'd lose their government funding.
    In 2001, the organization tried to extract a resolution from the White House that they could ignore local non-discrimination laws that protected LGBT people. While the commitment would have applied to all employees, the group claimed that it needed the resolution so it "did not have to ordain sexually active gay ministers and did not have to provide medical benefits to the same-sex partners of employees." After lawmakers and civil rights activists revealed the Salvation Army's active resistance to non-discrimination laws, the White House admitted the charity was seeking the exemptions.
    Also in 2001, the evangelical charity actively lobbied to change how the Bush administration would distribute over $24 billion in grants and tax deductions by urging the White House deny funding to any cities or states that included LGBT non-discrimination laws. Ari Fleischer, White House press secretary, issued a statement saying the administration was denying a "regulation sought by the church to protect the right of taxpayer-funded religious organizations to discriminate against homosexuals."
    In 2004, the Salvation Army threatened to close all their soup kitchens in New York City to protest the city's decision to require all vendors and charities doing business with the city to adhere to all civil rights laws. The organization balked at having to treat gay employees equal to straight employees.

I've seen the discrimination the Salvation Army preaches first hand. When a former boyfriend and I were homeless, the Salvation Army insisted we break up before they'd offer assistance. We slept on the street instead and declined to break up as they demanded.

Instead of donating to the Salvation Army, choose a different charity that will help everyone without prejudice. Find a local secular charity - or here are some national organizations that provide help to anyone who needs it:

Goodwill (disabled and unemployed)
The Red Cross (medical and emergency relief)
Doctors Without Borders (medical and emergency relief)
Habitat for Humanity (homelessness and housing)


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Personally, I won't donate to SA because I know people who have gone to them for help and were forced to pray before they received any assistance. I can't support a charity that is more interested in pushing their god on people, than actually helping them.

Sadly, I've heard bad things about corruption in GoodWill. It's a shame they used to be better and we have one across the street.

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

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ReginaStar
by Gold Member on Dec. 2, 2013 at 7:11 PM
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To each's own. While I choose not to give my money to a place like CFA b/c my money is mostly going towards profit. Some is going to charity and some is going towards hate. I have gave money to SA. That money you put in those pails are feeding and giving toys to children. I wouldn't discriminate against christian children. Not to mention many of those children are not even Christian. The bulk of Christmas help comes from the SA in my area. And while they are a religious organization they are not preaching or trying to convert the parents receiving the help. So no I have no issue with them. Do I think it's cool for govt. organizations, schools etc. to donate towards religious organizations. No. 

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Dec. 2, 2013 at 7:14 PM

I have heard several stories from individuals that are less than favorable in regards to the Salvation Army.

I have not donated to them in years.

MelanieJK
by Silver Member on Dec. 2, 2013 at 7:19 PM
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With a tiny bit of research you can find one of their local shelters and go check it out for yourself.    You can even volunteer and see firsthand the people who are getting their help.     

 The idea that you think your political bullshit is more important than the simple food shelter and clothing that these people need is outrageous.    Somebody needs to thump some priorities into your peabrain.

Peanutx3
by Ruby Member on Dec. 2, 2013 at 7:32 PM
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I don't think it is the charity it used to be.  My dad and uncle volunteered their time there many many years ago as young adults.  They never forced anyone to pray or do anything of the like.  They helped everyone who came and asked.

Peanutx3
by Ruby Member on Dec. 2, 2013 at 7:33 PM
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Rude much?

Quoting MelanieJK:

With a tiny bit of research you can find one of their local shelters and go check it out for yourself.    You can even volunteer and see firsthand the people who are getting their help.     

 The idea that you think your political bullshit is more important than the simple food shelter and clothing that these people need is outrageous.    Somebody needs to thump some priorities into your peabrain.



MelanieJK
by Silver Member on Dec. 2, 2013 at 7:37 PM
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 It's well earned.    Telling people not to donate to needy people?    Good grief.

Quoting Peanutx3:

Rude much?

Quoting MelanieJK:

With a tiny bit of research you can find one of their local shelters and go check it out for yourself.    You can even volunteer and see firsthand the people who are getting their help.     

 The idea that you think your political bullshit is more important than the simple food shelter and clothing that these people need is outrageous.    Somebody needs to thump some priorities into your peabrain.


 

Peanutx3
by Ruby Member on Dec. 2, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Um she didn't tell anyone not to donate to them.  She said she wouldn't donate to them.  Good grief.

Quoting MelanieJK:

 It's well earned.    Telling people not to donate to needy people?    Good grief.

Quoting Peanutx3:

Rude much?

Quoting MelanieJK:

With a tiny bit of research you can find one of their local shelters and go check it out for yourself.    You can even volunteer and see firsthand the people who are getting their help.     

 The idea that you think your political bullshit is more important than the simple food shelter and clothing that these people need is outrageous.    Somebody needs to thump some priorities into your peabrain.





DSamuels
by Gold Member on Dec. 2, 2013 at 7:50 PM
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While I don't agree with the rudeness of the post by Melanie, in fairness the title of the post is "Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army Bell Ringers" not "Why I Won't Donate...."

Quoting Peanutx3:

Um she didn't tell anyone not to donate to them.  She said she wouldn't donate to them.  Good grief.

Quoting MelanieJK:

 It's well earned.    Telling people not to donate to needy people?    Good grief.

Quoting Peanutx3:

Rude much?

Quoting MelanieJK:

With a tiny bit of research you can find one of their local shelters and go check it out for yourself.    You can even volunteer and see firsthand the people who are getting their help.     

 The idea that you think your political bullshit is more important than the simple food shelter and clothing that these people need is outrageous.    Somebody needs to thump some priorities into your peabrain.





terpmama
by Silver Member on Dec. 2, 2013 at 7:54 PM
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Quoting MelanieJK:

 It's well earned.    Telling people not to donate to needy people?    Good grief.

Quoting Peanutx3:

Rude much?

Quoting MelanieJK:

With a tiny bit of research you can find one of their local shelters and go check it out for yourself.    You can even volunteer and see firsthand the people who are getting their help.     

 The idea that you think your political bullshit is more important than the simple food shelter and clothing that these people need is outrageous.    Somebody needs to thump some priorities into your peabrain.



They didn't say "don't donate" they said research where you donate so you give to charities that are aligned with your beliefs...

VooDooB
by weird cheese on Dec. 2, 2013 at 7:56 PM
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Me donating money to people in need has nothing to do with gay people.

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