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Suspect in 11-Year-Old's Brutal Murder Is Just 14 Years Old

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Suspect in 11-Year-Old's Brutal Murder Is Just 14 Years Old

by Jeanne Sager

butcher kinfeThere is really no easy way to talk about the tragic news coming out of Chicago today, so let's talk about what we know for sure. An 11-year-old girl was stabbed to death. A 14-year-girl has been arrested and charged with first-degree murder (as a juvenile). And police in the Windy City say the deceased was stabbed a total of 40 times.

Forty. Times.

This is not child's play, not some little fight gone terribly wrong.

What police are describing is a brutal killing, a crime of passion, a crime of off-the-scale rage.

The 11-year-old's autopsy apparently revealed 30 stab wounds across the neck, chest, and arms, plus defensive wounds on the hands, bruises on the chest, and slash marks across the child's face. The two girls, relatives, were allegedly home alone together at the time of the incident, and police believe the 11-year-old was killed shortly before the 14-year-old called 911 to report that the other child had been hurt.

I realize I say this any time a child is accused of a violent crime, but this isn't how the world is SUPPOSED to work. I'm not naive enough to think it doesn't; I'm simply optimistic enough to hope that reports like this are exceptions that prove the rule, that kids in general are still good.

That children don't kill.

Isn't that how we all are? We see these things on Law & Order: SVU, and we take comfort in the notion that it's "just for TV."

Naive or not, that's the way I'd prefer life. I don't want to start looking at every 14-year-old girl I meet and wondering, "Does she have it in her to stab her relative, a mere child, 40 times?" She should be thinking about algebra, a school dance, going out for the softball team ... not murder.

Obviously, when a 14-year-old stands accused of first-degree murder, we need to talk about it. There needs to be a conversation about the hows and the whys, if only to prevent future tragedy.

But let us not lose ourselves in the details here. Let us not become a nation where we become inured to the horror, where these types of crimes cease to shock us.

What is your honest reaction to this horror? Do you feel like we're hearing these stories more and more?

by on Jan. 23, 2014 at 9:21 AM
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paganbaby
by Teflon Don on Jan. 24, 2014 at 11:14 AM

This.

Quoting Lax5: I have to wonder if there were any warning signs. I mean there had to be right? I will never understand the violence. Sadly when things like this happen it confuses me, makes me sad and even pisses me off, but it doesn't shock me anymore. 😢




I will not have a temper tantrum nor stomp across the floor.


I will not pout, scream or shout or kick against the door.

I will not throw my food around nor pick upon another.

I’ll always try to be real good because I am the mother.

I am the mother.

I am the mother.














Kate_Momof3
by Silver Member on Jan. 24, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Did I say that? I don't think I did.

Re-read and get back to me.

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA: What makes you think Adam Lanzas mother had no resources?

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 We recently had a horrible murder in our community where a woman was brutally attacked by her son with a knife. It was so horrific that it made international headlines (until something else diverted the media's attention).


The similarities between his story and Adam Lanza's are frightening. So much so that there was a collective sigh of relief throughout the town that he didn't have access to an aresenal. His mother was a wonderful woman who did what she could to get her clearly mentally ill son the help and resources he needed and was stonewalled every step of the way. Consquently, she was forced to live with a ticking time bomb because he had no where to go.


I suspect the mother of this girl was faced with a similar situation.


Kate_Momof3
by Silver Member on Jan. 24, 2014 at 11:54 AM

It offends me. How can a comment offend a dead girl? Was that supposed to be funny? Sarcastic? It wasn't, by the way. Just kind of snotty.

I take child murders seriously, especially in this age of minimal, if any, mental health intervention. Only a cynical asshole would bring guns into the discussion.

And before you say anything about my bringing guns into the discussion it was in response to the stupidity of the previous statement.

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA: And who exactly does her comment offend? You or the dead girl?

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 What a cynical, asshole comment, Carpy.


Don't you have a group to fake moderate or something?


Quoting Carpy: Thankfully, she didn't have access to a gun.

 


JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on Jan. 24, 2014 at 12:01 PM
So maybe we should ban kitchen knives.

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

It offends me. How can a comment offend a dead girl? Was that supposed to be funny? Sarcastic? It wasn't, by the way. Just kind of snotty.

I take child murders seriously, especially in this age of minimal, if any, mental health intervention. Only a cynical asshole would bring guns into the discussion.

And before you say anything about my bringing guns into the discussion it was in response to the stupidity of the previous statement.

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA: And who exactly does her comment offend? You or the dead girl?



Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 What a cynical, asshole comment, Carpy.



Don't you have a group to fake moderate or something?



Quoting Carpy: Thankfully, she didn't have access to a gun.


 


Kate_Momof3
by Silver Member on Jan. 26, 2014 at 3:36 PM
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This is a hackneyed response.

I'm surprised that you couldn't think of something a little more thoughtful...

I didn't say anything about banning guns (which I'm assuming you were alluding to in your brilliant response). I'm fine with guns. I just am one of those crazy liberals who thinks we need to address the root of the problem: Our failing mental health and education systems.

Now...what is your take on it? Can we get past the whole "she's offended by Carpy's gun response so therefore she must want to overturn the Second Amendment" bullshit? That would be nice.

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA: So maybe we should ban kitchen knives.

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

It offends me. How can a comment offend a dead girl? Was that supposed to be funny? Sarcastic? It wasn't, by the way. Just kind of snotty.

I take child murders seriously, especially in this age of minimal, if any, mental health intervention. Only a cynical asshole would bring guns into the discussion.

And before you say anything about my bringing guns into the discussion it was in response to the stupidity of the previous statement.

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA: And who exactly does her comment offend? You or the dead girl?



Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 What a cynical, asshole comment, Carpy.



Don't you have a group to fake moderate or something?



Quoting Carpy: Thankfully, she didn't have access to a gun.


 



JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on Jan. 26, 2014 at 5:49 PM
I'm past that, it's forgotten.

I wish I had an answer for you, quite honestly I don't. How does the mental health system improve? Throwing money at the problem doesn't fix the problem. The issue is much larger than the patient. The education system, public education is out of control. The issue is larger than the student. Again, thowring money at it, adopting a national curriculum, longer hours, longer school years are not going to fix it.

You can't put a bandaid on a gaping wound, and politicians don't have the answer either.

The first step or question rather is, I think - what's the root?

Quoting Kate_Momof3: This is a hackneyed response.I'm surprised that you couldn't think of something a little more thoughtful...I didn't say anything about banning guns (which I'm assuming you were alluding to in your brilliant response). I'm fine with guns. I just am one of those crazy liberals who thinks we need to address the root of the problem: Our failing mental health and education systems.Now...what is your take on it? Can we get past the whole "she's offended by Carpy's gun response so therefore she must want to overturn the Second Amendment" bullshit? That would be nice.Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA: So maybe we should ban kitchen knives.

Quoting Kate_Momof3: It offends me. How can a comment offend a dead girl? Was that supposed to be funny? Sarcastic? It wasn't, by the way. Just kind of snotty.I take child murders seriously, especially in this age of minimal, if any, mental health intervention. Only a cynical asshole would bring guns into the discussion.And before you say anything about my bringing guns into the discussion it was in response to the stupidity of the previous statement.Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA: And who exactly does her comment offend? You or the dead girl?

Quoting Kate_Momof3:  What a cynical, asshole comment, Carpy.
Don't you have a group to fake moderate or something?
Quoting Carpy: Thankfully, she didn't have access to a gun.
 
KenneMaw
by Bronze Member on Jan. 26, 2014 at 6:46 PM
It is heartbreaking. Just heartbreaking. When I hear this stuuf, I can't help but think of how many times I have read on CM about mom's experiencing rage or extreme anger. I imagine this 14 yo felt the same way. She could have been mentally ill or a psychopath incapable of caring. That level of rage is terrifying.
JustCJ
by Silver Member on Jan. 26, 2014 at 7:57 PM
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Here's a thought. It's just a thought mind you, but maybe if we stop making 'excuses' for these shitty, no, evil actions, and accept that there are just some bad seeds, (in most cases) then maybe we can Ohhh I don't know...hold them accountable and make them an example for the next fucking brat that wants to pull some shit?

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA: I'm past that, it's forgotten.

I wish I had an answer for you, quite honestly I don't. How does the mental health system improve? Throwing money at the problem doesn't fix the problem. The issue is much larger than the patient. The education system, public education is out of control. The issue is larger than the student. Again, thowring money at it, adopting a national curriculum, longer hours, longer school years are not going to fix it.

You can't put a bandaid on a gaping wound, and politicians don't have the answer either.

The first step or question rather is, I think - what's the root?

Quoting Kate_Momof3: This is a hackneyed response.I'm surprised that you couldn't think of something a little more thoughtful...I didn't say anything about banning guns (which I'm assuming you were alluding to in your brilliant response). I'm fine with guns. I just am one of those crazy liberals who thinks we need to address the root of the problem: Our failing mental health and education systems.Now...what is your take on it? Can we get past the whole "she's offended by Carpy's gun response so therefore she must want to overturn the Second Amendment" bullshit? That would be nice.Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA: So maybe we should ban kitchen knives.

Quoting Kate_Momof3: It offends me. How can a comment offend a dead girl? Was that supposed to be funny? Sarcastic? It wasn't, by the way. Just kind of snotty.I take child murders seriously, especially in this age of minimal, if any, mental health intervention. Only a cynical asshole would bring guns into the discussion.And before you say anything about my bringing guns into the discussion it was in response to the stupidity of the previous statement.Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA: And who exactly does her comment offend? You or the dead girl?

Quoting Kate_Momof3:  What a cynical, asshole comment, Carpy.
Don't you have a group to fake moderate or something?
Quoting Carpy: Thankfully, she didn't have access to a gun.
 


LadyVoldemort
by on Jan. 26, 2014 at 9:26 PM

I'm upset that I'm not horrified. Disgusted? Yes. But I can't find any shock. Honestly, Sandy Hook densensitized me to a lot. And I hate that it did.

Farmlady09
by Silver Member on Jan. 26, 2014 at 10:09 PM

 This.

Quoting MeAndTommyLee:

Sibling murders do not surprise me anymore. Killer kids don't make me blink twice anymore either. The saddest parts are that this 11 year old lost her life over nothing, and the mother of these girls has lost both of her daughters.  As far as having sympathy for the killer teen; I can't muster up any.  In fact I'm angry that she most likely will walk free at 21.  

 

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