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State Senator Who Once Sued God Wants Churches To Pay Property Taxes

Posted by on Jan. 24, 2014 at 4:25 PM
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State Senator Who Once Sued God Wants Churches To Pay Property Taxes

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Nebraska state senator Ernie Chambers certainly has a way of grabbing people’s attention.

In 2007, Chambers sued God. No, he wasn’t actually looking to collect any damage payments from a deity. He filed the lawsuit in response to conservative legislators who attempted to pass a bill banning frivolous lawsuits. Chambers, an atheist, hoped his faux lawsuit would make the point that U.S. law guarantees citizens the right to file a lawsuit against anyone for whatever reason they see fit – it’s up to courts to determine the legitimacy of a lawsuit.

Fast forward to 2014. Chambers proposed a bill this week that would require all churches in Nebraska to pay property taxes.

In order to help his bill’s cause, Chambers is arguing that churches should want to pay taxes. He cites Jesus’ infamous “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s” quote to support his claim. Jesus made the statement in response to someone asking him whether it was lawful for Jews to pay taxes to Caesar. The passage is often cited by Christians when discussing how believers should interact with secular government authorities.

Currently in Nebraska, properties owned by educational, religious, and cemetery organizations are usually exempt from property taxes. Chambers didn’t write a new bill for his proposal. Rather, he took the state’s old bill and simply crossed out the word “religious” each time it appears in a list of properties that should be tax exempt.

Take a look:

Chambers’ Statement of Intent for the bill is worth noting as well. This is a man well-versed in satire.

“Every day that someone offers a prayer in the Legislature, it should [signal] another vote for LB 675,” Chambers writes. “This should be one of the easiest bills to pass that I’ve offered in the Legislature.

“Jesus knew about, and understood, taxes because his disciple, Matthew, heeded Jesus’ call to leave his place at the tax-gatherer’s booth and follow him. All things considered, I expect my legislative colleagues to say, regarding this bill: ‘Let Thy will be done.’ To which I can intone: ‘Amen.’”

I’d say this bill has about a snowball’s chance in hell of going anywhere. 

Sources: Patheos, Nebraska Legislature

by on Jan. 24, 2014 at 4:25 PM
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yourspecialkid
by Platinum Member on Jan. 24, 2014 at 6:05 PM
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 Tax the churches.  Then don't bitch when they take a seat at the political table.

 

lga1965
by on Jan. 24, 2014 at 6:25 PM
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They already do !
Quoting yourspecialkid:

 Tax the churches.  Then don't bitch when they take a seat at the political table.


 

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Goodwoman614
by Satan on Jan. 24, 2014 at 6:46 PM

BUMP!

mikiemom
by Ruby Member on Jan. 24, 2014 at 6:47 PM
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 they already do and oh paying taxes would not give your church the right to make laws based on your religion.

Quoting yourspecialkid:

 Tax the churches.  Then don't bitch when they take a seat at the political table.

 

 

Goodwoman614
by Satan on Jan. 24, 2014 at 6:50 PM


Quoting lga1965: They already do !
Quoting yourspecialkid:

 Tax the churches.  Then don't bitch when they take a seat at the political table.


 

Yep, just ask the people of Utah.

But that is just an easy example.

Fact is, religion continues to need to be beaten back from and out of the public sphere.

Churches paying taxes, hmmm...don't parishoners already have the right to vote? I suppose organized religion could always incorporate and lobby, what with the Supreme Court's inability to determine the definition of 'person.'

Farmlady09
by Silver Member on Jan. 24, 2014 at 6:58 PM
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Taxing churches would be the surest way to get God back into the running of the country, although I'm fairly certain the first one to complain would be this Atheist that doesn't understand the separation of church and state.

lga1965
by on Jan. 24, 2014 at 7:06 PM
Many of us,who believe in.God think it's best to keep God out of Government for obvious reasons.

Quoting Farmlady09:

Taxing churches would be the surest way to get God back into the running of the country, although I'm fairly certain the first one to complain would be this Atheist that doesn't understand the separation of church and state.

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Clairwil
by Ruby Member on Jan. 24, 2014 at 7:06 PM


Quoting yourspecialkid:

Then don't bitch when they take a seat at the political table.

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The future of religious freedom depends on a free pulpit to communicate fundamental, biblical principles to congregations across America. Join a growing movement of bold pastors preaching Biblical Truth about candidates and elections from their pulpits on October 5, 2014.

tanyainmizzou
by on Jan. 24, 2014 at 7:20 PM

How does that change what will happen?

You make them pay taxes, they get to vocally support and recommend to their membership who and what to vote for without the fear of losing their tax free status.

Quoting Clairwil:


Quoting yourspecialkid:

Then don't bitch when they take a seat at the political table.

(source)

The future of religious freedom depends on a free pulpit to communicate fundamental, biblical principles to congregations across America. Join a growing movement of bold pastors preaching Biblical Truth about candidates and elections from their pulpits on October 5, 2014.


yourspecialkid
by Platinum Member on Jan. 24, 2014 at 7:26 PM
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Quoting lga1965: They already do !
Quoting yourspecialkid:

 Tax the churches.  Then don't bitch when they take a seat at the political table.


 

 No they don't.  Unhindered by the tax exemptions they could openly back and finance candidates.  Imagine the wealth of the Catholic or Mormon churches behind the candidate of their choosing.  It ought to give some of you the shivers.

 

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