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Are you for or against a higher federal minimum wage?

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Raising the Federal Minimum Wage Is a Bad, Bad Idea

by Jenny Erikson

In last night’s State of the Union address, President Obama proposed raising the federal minimum wage to $10.10 an hour. He even made some quippy comment about it being easy to remember because it’s 10-10. I’m hyucking at you, speechwriters.

Anyway, that’s a terrible, horrible, rotten, no good, very bad idea. The current federal minimum wage is $7.25; so raising it to $10.10 is quite the substantial increase. I know, $7.25 isn’t really a living wage, yada yada, it’s not fair that people have to make that little amount of money, and so on and so forth.

But you know what’s worse than making $7.25 an hour? Making nothing. What exactly do you think will happen when employers can’t afford to keep around their low-level workers? They’ll let them go, that’s what.

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My parents are small business owners. I remember one time getting a lesson in real life from my dad, because I had heard in the news that the minimum wage was going up, and being a child and therefore naĂŻve, I thought it was swell. My father, being much older and wiser, told me that because of that mandated raise, he had to let someone go.

He’d had an entry-level employee that he paid minimum wage to keep the factory floor tidied up. He swept and cleaned spills, ran errands, you know, just basic go-fer stuff. It was worth it for the cost of his wages. The guy was happy he had a job, coworkers were happy for the help, everybody was happy with the situation.

Small businesses generally run on a very tight budget. So when the government stepped in and decided that my dad wasn’t paying that guy enough, he didn’t have the financial wiggle room to pay him more. The employee said he didn’t care, he’d keep working for the lower wage, but being an upstanding citizen, my dad wouldn’t employ him illegally.

This happens a lot. And then these entry-level workers can’t find work, because the jobs aren’t there. So they go on welfare. Now business owners have even less money to hire new employees, because in addition to paying the people that do work for them, they’re now paying higher taxes to pay the people that don’t work for them.

Work is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Most everybody starts at the bottom. If you don’t want to make $7.25 for the rest of your life, then figure out how to get promoted. Take classes, acquire new skills, do the best darn job you can at what you do and ask for more responsibility.

That’s how you climb out of poverty. Not by raising the federal minimum wage.

Are you for or against a higher federal minimum wage?

by on Jan. 30, 2014 at 9:11 AM
Replies (21-30):
redneck_kids
by Member on Jan. 30, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Yes

Quoting pamelax3:

 Even for the teenagers just working for the summer?

Quoting redneck_kids:

I think it should be raised for everyone.



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pamelax3
by Gold Member on Jan. 30, 2014 at 12:18 PM

 Really? So the kids that are working the counter at the movies should be making the same as someone with a family of 4?

Quoting redneck_kids:

Yes

Quoting pamelax3:

 Even for the teenagers just working for the summer?

Quoting redneck_kids:

I think it should be raised for everyone.

 


 

waldorfmom
by Bronze Member on Jan. 30, 2014 at 12:20 PM
1 mom liked this

Thank you, thank you for this post.

I just hope people take the time to read it and understand the train of consequences involved. The relentless shouting that Conservatives must be heartless because they oppose raising the minimum wage is a smokescreen to cover up the reality that those who IMPOSE the minimum wage are the ones ruining the lives of the poor.

Here are more articles on the subject:

Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell on the Minimum Wage as Maximum Folly

by DON BOUDREAUX on OCTOBER 8, 2013

Here’s a relatively recent seven-minute-plus discussion between Econ colleague Walter Williams and the Hoover Institution’s Thomas Sowell on government’s practice of ordering low-skilled workers to remain unemployed ...

A quotation from Walter from mid-way through the discussion:

The minimum-wage law has been, and continues to be, one of the most effective tools in the arsenal of racists everywhere around the world.

http://cafehayek.com/2013/10/thomas-sowell-and-walter-williams-on-the-minimum-wage-as-maximum-folly.html

Minimum-Wage Madness SEPTEMBER 17, 2013 12:04 AM
Young people and minorities are hit hardest by minimum-wage laws.

momto3B
by Bronze Member on Jan. 30, 2014 at 12:24 PM

For. 

Raintree
by Ruby Member on Jan. 30, 2014 at 12:56 PM

For. If employers can't figure it out, I guess they'll lose business in the long run- because people without work are people who won't buy things. 

god.

pamelax3
by Gold Member on Jan. 30, 2014 at 1:17 PM

 You realize when they lose business they will end up closing their doors, that will put people out of work

Quoting Raintree:

For. If employers can't figure it out, I guess they'll lose business in the long run- because people without work are people who won't buy things. 

god.

 

tanyainmizzou
by on Jan. 30, 2014 at 1:20 PM


Quoting pamelax3:

 You realize when they lose business they will end up closing their doors, that will put people out of work

Quoting Raintree:

For. If employers can't figure it out, I guess they'll lose business in the long run- because people without work are people who won't buy things. 

god.

Doesn't matter.  A small business should only make 2% in profit.  Anything else is greedy. If it closes, it is the owner's fault for wanting to make money on his risk.  Businesses are to give people jobs don't you know?


pamelax3
by Gold Member on Jan. 30, 2014 at 1:22 PM

 

Quoting tanyainmizzou:

 

Quoting pamelax3:

 You realize when they lose business they will end up closing their doors, that will put people out of work

Quoting Raintree:

For. If employers can't figure it out, I guess they'll lose business in the long run- because people without work are people who won't buy things. 

god.

Doesn't matter.  A small business should only make 2% in profit.  Anything else is greedy. If it closes, it is the owner's fault for wanting to make money on his risk.  Businesses are to give people jobs don't you know?

 

 LOL!! I will tell the small business owners around here to stop being greedy! LOL

quickbooksworm
by Silver Member on Jan. 30, 2014 at 1:23 PM
3 moms liked this
Against. It would just cause inflation of goods and services. After a few months, $10.10 wouldn't be livable and we are right back at square one.
Raintree
by Ruby Member on Jan. 30, 2014 at 1:24 PM

And then other's will seize on the opportunity. And many will be totally fine.

What you're really calling for is this: protection for the status quo.

More people with more money- more business overall.

Quoting pamelax3:

 You realize when they lose business they will end up closing their doors, that will put people out of work

Quoting Raintree:

For. If employers can't figure it out, I guess they'll lose business in the long run- because people without work are people who won't buy things. 

god.



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