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Another Jewish Infant in New York Contracts Herpes During Ultra-Orthodox Bris Featuring Mouth-to-Penis Contact

Posted by on Feb. 3, 2014 at 12:29 AM
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And again a metzitzah b’peh makes the news. As we’ve seen before, the procedure is carried out by unlicensed and unregulated mohels who, after cutting away the child’s foreskin and tearing the membrane with their fingernailsplace their mouths on the boy’s penis to suck away the blood.

Since 2000, metzitzah b’pehs have been responsible for at least thirteen cases of herpes transmission — including two resulting in the death of the child, and two more in which the boy suffered brain damage. (It’s not clear to me whether those numbers, released by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, are countrywide or New-York-only.)

(Image via Bigot Vanquisher)

Now there is another infant victim. From the Forward:

A baby boy has been infected with neonatal herpes following a Jewish ritual circumcision in New York — the third such infection in two years tied to a controversial rite that involves the direct application of the ritual circumciser’s mouth to the baby’s genitals to suction blood from the wound.

The baby was treated for a genital rash five days after he was circumcised, according to a January 28 health alert issued by New York City’s Department of Health and Mental Hygiene. He is still undergoing treatment and his current condition is unclear. The department attributed the rash to the controversial circumcision technique, known as metzitzah b’peh, or MBP, which some ultra-Orthodox mohels, or ritual circumcisers, say is an essential component of the ancient religious ritual.

Two years ago, the Bloomberg administration decreed that parents wishing to have a metzitzah performed must sign a consent form saying they are aware of the risks. Even that weak, inadequate measure met with vehement opposition from ultra-Orthodox leaders, who consider it an unwarranted government violation of their religious freedom.

They say that the risks of babies contracting herpes from MBP are overblown. The ultra-Orthodox umbrella group, Agudath Israel of America, along with a handful of ultra-Orthodox rabbis and mohels launched a lawsuit in late 2012 challenging the legality of the forms, which they say is a violation of free speech.

The case comes four weeks after news organizations reported that a mohel in Pittsburgh, Rabbi Mordechai Rosenberg, had accidentally sliced off a baby’s penis during a standard bris (not a metzitzah b’peh).

An attorney who specializes in children’s injury cases, David Llewelyn, claims that

“Your average pediatric urologist probably spends 20 percent of his or her time repairing children who have been circumcised.”

Rosenberg continues to perform circumcisions.

As far as we know, the same is true for the herpes-spreading mohel(s); last year, per ABC News,

The [New York] health department could take no action against the rabbi who performed the circumcision [that gave a baby herpes] because the parents would not reveal his identity.

Future victims aplenty:

About two-thirds of boys born in New York City’s Hasidic communities are circumcised in the oral suction manner, according to Rabbi David Zwiebel, executive vice president of Agudath Israel of America.

We currently don’t know what the prognosis is for the latest herpes-infected infant, or whether he has sustained brain damage.



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by on Feb. 3, 2014 at 12:29 AM
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Healthystart30
by Silver Member on Feb. 3, 2014 at 12:32 AM
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These people need to go to prison! This is not alright! How many innocent boys have to suffer before they put a stop to this!
It does not matter how religious you are, you are not allowed to use your religion to stomp on the human rights of others!
Horrible!
Goodwoman614
by Satan on Feb. 3, 2014 at 12:34 AM
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Quoting Healthystart30: These people need to go to prison! This is not alright! How many innocent boys have to suffer before they put a stop to this!
It does not matter how religious you are, you are not allowed to use your religion to stomp on the human rights of others!
Horrible!

These people need to go to prison!

    Yes they do.


It does not matter how religious you are, you are not allowed to use your religion to stomp on the human rights of others!

   And yet, we have this.

motha2daDuchess
by Bruja on Feb. 3, 2014 at 12:50 AM


Quoting Healthystart30: These people need to go to prison! <~~ For fellating and giving an infant a STD, yes this is child abuse..
This is not alright! <~~ It is not, they should be using a acredited person that follows health code regulation and not sucking on a baby's penis
How many innocent boys have to suffer before they put a stop to this! <~~I hope this is something that is corrected very soon

It does not matter how religious you are, you are not allowed to use your religion to stomp on the human rights of others!
Horrible!<~~ Correct, Marriage should be legal for all consenting adults...not sure what that had to do with OP...


EireLass
by Ruby Member on Feb. 3, 2014 at 12:51 AM

BUMP!

emerald111
by on Feb. 3, 2014 at 1:06 AM

I would recommend getting it done by a real doctor.  My ped. does a really good job and she's done hundreds of them.  

Healthystart30
by Silver Member on Feb. 3, 2014 at 1:15 AM
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Quoting motha2daDuchess:

Quoting Healthystart30: These people need to go to prison! <~~ For fellating and giving an infant a STD, yes this is child abuse..
This is not alright! <~~ It is not, they should be using a acredited person that follows health code regulation and not sucking on a baby's penis
How many innocent boys have to suffer before they put a stop to this! <~~I hope this is something that is corrected very soon

It does not matter how religious you are, you are not allowed to use your religion to stomp on the human rights of others!
Horrible!<~~ Correct, Marriage should be legal for all consenting adults...not sure what that had to do with OP...



I think I'm sensing sarcasm in your last reply, but just in case im wrong, I definitely believe its a humans right violation for a grown ass anyone to put their mouth on a babies genetalia, for any reason.

blueforewolf
by on Feb. 3, 2014 at 1:18 AM
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it's a disgusting practice and needs to be illegal - just like female genital mutilation is - just because something is dictated by religion does not mean it's ok to do it - just like the christian scientists that won't get their children medical care and the child dies - what if someone believed that they should sacrifice their first born? that wouldn't fly here either -a really disgusting and unethical practice

BrittSam2011
by on Feb. 3, 2014 at 1:39 AM
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Seriously, putting your mouth anywhere NEAR a child's genetalia should be illegal. I thought it already was. And why the hell aren't the mohel's getting tested for oral herpes before they do it anyway? If they're going to do it anyway (which they most likely are) why the hell not stick a cotton swab in your mouth and test it?

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Mommy383
by Member on Feb. 3, 2014 at 1:42 AM

The parents won't reveal his identity? Lock there a$$ up! 

iamcafemom83
by Bronze Member on Feb. 3, 2014 at 6:03 AM
Omg whaaaaat. That is truly heinous.
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