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Secular Group Tells Minnesota Schools: No More Church Field Trips To Help Needy

Posted by on Feb. 4, 2014 at 4:18 PM
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Secular Group Tells Minnesota Schools: No More Church Field Trips To Help Needy

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A secular group sent a letter to the Robbinsdale school district in Minnesota demanding it stop taking students to a church to pack meals for needy families in Haiti.

The American Humanist Association says a parent complained last year after the School of Engineering and Arts took students to Calvary Lutheran Church in Golden Valley, where they participated in a world hunger effort run by Feed My Starving Children.

The group says the field trip is unconstitutional. The same parent allegedly complained to school administrators about the trip as well.

“School administrators refused a previous request from the family to stop the practice after their complaint was made last year,” AHA said in a statement.

Legal representation for AHA, in a letter to school officials dated Feb. 3, said the field trip is “such an obvious violation that a parental complaint should not be necessary.”

“Very importantly, we fully understand that at least one purpose of this field trip was to have the children participate in charity work intended to assist poverty-stricken people,” the letter said. “Such good intentions, however, can be pursued in innumerable other ways that do not involve immersing the unsuspecting children into a theologically-charged environment.”

District spokeswoman Latisha Gray said school officials didn’t feel the field trip violated the law.

"There was absolutely no proselytizing," Gray told the Star Tribune.

“For public school administrators to send students to a religious environment to work on a religious mission with a religious organization is unconstitutional,” Monica Miller, an attorney for the Appignani Humanist Legal Center, said in a statement. “This is a clear violation of the separation of church and state.”

The school district has two weeks to reply to the AHA letter.

Sources: TheBlaze, Star Tribune

by on Feb. 4, 2014 at 4:18 PM
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mikiemom
by Ruby Member on Feb. 4, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Right, you can't push a certain religion. Seriously why do you all not understand this?

IhartU
by Gold Member on Feb. 4, 2014 at 4:24 PM
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Quoting mikiemom:

Right, you can't push a certain religion. Seriously why do you all not understand this?

 They think taking public schools kids and having them help to convert under the guise of humanitarian aid trumps the Constitution.

mikiemom
by Ruby Member on Feb. 4, 2014 at 4:25 PM
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 They selectively read the constitution like they selectively read the bible.

Quoting IhartU:


Quoting mikiemom:

Right, you can't push a certain religion. Seriously why do you all not understand this?

 They think taking public schools kids and having them help to convert under the guise of humanitarian aid trumps the Constitution.

 

Arroree
by Ruby Member on Feb. 4, 2014 at 4:27 PM
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Some do, definitely.

Quoting mikiemom:

 They selectively read the constitution like they selectively read the bible.

Quoting IhartU:


Quoting mikiemom:

Right, you can't push a certain religion. Seriously why do you all not understand this?

 They think taking public schools kids and having them help to convert under the guise of humanitarian aid trumps the Constitution.



SpiritFortress
by Bronze Member on Feb. 4, 2014 at 4:31 PM

I'm in agreement with the AHA. 

tanyainmizzou
by on Feb. 4, 2014 at 4:32 PM
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So what group do you suggest they use to pack bags for people in Haiti?


Quoting IhartU:


Quoting mikiemom:

Right, you can't push a certain religion. Seriously why do you all not understand this?

 They think taking public schools kids and having them help to convert under the guise of humanitarian aid trumps the Constitution.


GLWerth
by Gina on Feb. 4, 2014 at 4:36 PM

There are indeed many ways to help the needy without getting a helping of religion on the side.


IhartU
by Gold Member on Feb. 4, 2014 at 4:39 PM
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Quoting tanyainmizzou:

So what group do you suggest they use to pack bags for people in Haiti?


Quoting IhartU:


Quoting mikiemom:

Right, you can't push a certain religion. Seriously why do you all not understand this?

 They think taking public schools kids and having them help to convert under the guise of humanitarian aid trumps the Constitution.


 Create a group at school  and use a non-religious charitable organization to do it- there ARE non-religious, non-profit organizations you know.

mikiemom
by Ruby Member on Feb. 4, 2014 at 4:40 PM
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 There are plenty of non-religious way to help out in our communities. Please don't act like there is not.

Quoting tanyainmizzou:

So what group do you suggest they use to pack bags for people in Haiti?

 

Quoting IhartU:


Quoting mikiemom:

Right, you can't push a certain religion. Seriously why do you all not understand this?

 They think taking public schools kids and having them help to convert under the guise of humanitarian aid trumps the Constitution.

 

 

mikiemom
by Ruby Member on Feb. 4, 2014 at 4:41 PM

 Was she one of the folks who think you need to believe in her God to be a good person?

Quoting IhartU:


Quoting tanyainmizzou:

So what group do you suggest they use to pack bags for people in Haiti?

 

Quoting IhartU:


Quoting mikiemom:

Right, you can't push a certain religion. Seriously why do you all not understand this?

 They think taking public schools kids and having them help to convert under the guise of humanitarian aid trumps the Constitution.

 

 Create a group at school  and use a non-religious charitable organization to do it- there ARE non-religious, non-profit organizations you know.

 

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