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NFL's Jonathan Vilma Afraid Gay Teammate Would Look At Him In The Shower

Posted by on Feb. 5, 2014 at 6:10 PM
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NFL's Jonathan Vilma Afraid Gay Teammate Would Look At Him In The Shower

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New Orleans Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma might not be happy if a fellow NFL player were to come out as gay and wind up in the shower next to him.

Andrea Kremer, the NFL's chief correspondent for player health and safety, recently sat down with various NFL members to discuss the culture of the locker room. The men admitted to a no-holds-barred atmosphere, where the n-word flies and hazing happens. But apparently the possibility of an openly gay player in that atmosphere would "test the limits of tolerance," according to Kremer.

"There's such a stigma with gay and homosexuals within male sports," London Fletcher, Washington Redskins linebacker, said during the session with Kremer. "It would be very difficult for that first person to come out."

"I think that he would not be accepted as much as we think he would be accepted," Vilma added. "I don't want people to just naturally assume, like, 'Oh, we're all homophobic.' That's really not the case. Imagine if he's the guy next to me and, you know, I get dressed, naked, taking a shower, the whole nine, and it just so happens he looks at me. How am I supposed to respond?"

OutSports' Cyd Zeigler suggested Vilma respond the way someone would to anyonewho's looking in the shower: Tell a joke or just keep chatting like it never happened.

Vilma was accused of homophobia in 2011 when he tweeted: “Grown men should NOT hav [sic] female tendencies. Period.” When a backlash ensued, he responded: “So of course the homosexual men get sensitive to my tweet and respond all ticked off. RELAX I was not referring to u guys."

Last April, former Baltimore Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo said that as many as four closeted, active players could come out as gay to the public. However,not a single active NFL player came out in 2013.

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fireangel5
by Gold Member on Feb. 5, 2014 at 10:33 PM
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He's not a bad person because he's uncomfortable being naked around a gay man. He's not being ignorant or rude, he's simply expressing a concern of his. I don't think telling someone to pretend it never happened it appropriate advice. 

Debmomto2girls
by on Feb. 5, 2014 at 10:44 PM
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I don't think he is a bad person. Misinformed and ignorant, yes.  Just  not sure why he felt the need  to announce it.

Quoting fireangel5:

He's not a bad person because he's uncomfortable being naked around a gay man. He's not being ignorant or rude, he's simply expressing a concern of his. I don't think telling someone to pretend it never happened it appropriate advice. 


fireangel5
by Gold Member on Feb. 5, 2014 at 10:53 PM

I took it as, there was a discussion going on and he joined in the discussion and stated his thoughts. I would guess it's better than just sitting there not participating. . I don't think he's ignorant for feeling uncomfortable. 

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

I don't think he is a bad person. Misinformed and ignorant, yes.  Just  not sure why he felt the need  to announce it.

Quoting fireangel5:

He's not a bad person because he's uncomfortable being naked around a gay man. He's not being ignorant or rude, he's simply expressing a concern of his. I don't think telling someone to pretend it never happened it appropriate advice. 



Debmomto2girls
by on Feb. 5, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Why would he be uncomfortable? Does he think the guy is going to hit on him?

Quoting fireangel5:

I took it as, there was a discussion going on and he joined in the discussion and stated his thoughts. I would guess it's better than just sitting there not participating. . I don't think he's ignorant for feeling uncomfortable. 

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

I don't think he is a bad person. Misinformed and ignorant, yes.  Just  not sure why he felt the need  to announce it.

Quoting fireangel5:

He's not a bad person because he's uncomfortable being naked around a gay man. He's not being ignorant or rude, he's simply expressing a concern of his. I don't think telling someone to pretend it never happened it appropriate advice. 




tanyainmizzou
by on Feb. 5, 2014 at 11:04 PM
Would you shower with a male coworker of yours?

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

Why would he be uncomfortable? Does he think the guy is going to hit on him?

Quoting fireangel5:

I took it as, there was a discussion going on and he joined in the discussion and stated his thoughts. I would guess it's better than just sitting there not participating. . I don't think he's ignorant for feeling uncomfortable. 

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

I don't think he is a bad person. Misinformed and ignorant, yes.  Just  not sure why he felt the need  to announce it.

Quoting fireangel5:

He's not a bad person because he's uncomfortable being naked around a gay man. He's not being ignorant or rude, he's simply expressing a concern of his. I don't think telling someone to pretend it never happened it appropriate advice. 




lga1965
by on Feb. 5, 2014 at 11:28 PM
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 I don't think he is wrong. It is understandable if he would be uncomfortable. I don't blame him.

 I was very uncomfortable when I was in high school Gym class and our taecher told us to walk to the showers after gym class naked, and carry a towel while she watched us walk by and checked our names off a list. I refused to take a shower. She said she would give me an "F" for the quarter and I said " Fine." I was suspicious that she might be a lesbian and years later found out that she was.( There is no way I would have walked naked to a shower anywhere anyway.) I was uncomfortable, Not homophobic. He's not homophobic either.

babyspots17
by Bronze Member on Feb. 5, 2014 at 11:41 PM
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Chances are this man has showered with a few gay men in his time playing football from highschool, college, and pro.  Why anyone wants to hang out in the showers having a discussion with another man/women gay or straight seems strange to me.   

Bookwormy
by Ruby Member on Feb. 5, 2014 at 11:45 PM
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That's wrong imo. Lesbian or straight that sounds abusive to me. Someone does that to my dd, there's hell to pay!

Quoting lga1965:

 I don't think he is wrong. It is understandable if he would be uncomfortable. I don't blame him.


 I was very uncomfortable when I was in high school Gym class and our taecher told us to walk to the showers after gym class naked, and carry a towel while she watched us walk by and checked our names off a list. I refused to take a shower. She said she would give me an "F" for the quarter and I said " Fine." I was suspicious that she might be a lesbian and years later found out that she was.( There is no way I would have walked naked to a shower anywhere anyway.) I was uncomfortable, Not homophobic. He's not homophobic either.

coolmommy2x
by Platinum Member on Feb. 5, 2014 at 11:46 PM
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I know, right?! Just because a player is gay doesn't mean he'll hit on every guy in the lockerroom.

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

Why would he be uncomfortable? Does he think the guy is going to hit on him?

Quoting fireangel5:

I took it as, there was a discussion going on and he joined in the discussion and stated his thoughts. I would guess it's better than just sitting there not participating. . I don't think he's ignorant for feeling uncomfortable. 

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

I don't think he is a bad person. Misinformed and ignorant, yes.  Just  not sure why he felt the need  to announce it.

Quoting fireangel5:

He's not a bad person because he's uncomfortable being naked around a gay man. He's not being ignorant or rude, he's simply expressing a concern of his. I don't think telling someone to pretend it never happened it appropriate advice. 




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motherslove82
by Gold Member on Feb. 5, 2014 at 11:49 PM

I'm sure the PC thing to say is "That very bad man, how dare he!", but I can see his point. Any one who can't needs to ask themselves if they would be ok with men in the locker room with a bunch of women who were showering and dressing. If not, why?

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