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Deportations come mostly from border, DHS chief says

Posted by on Mar. 12, 2014 at 9:09 AM
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Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson acknowledged Tuesday that his department’s deportation numbers are now mostly made up of illegal immigrants caught at the border, not just those from the interior, which means they can’t be compared one-to-one with deportations under President Bush or other prior administrations.

The administration has argued it is tougher on illegal immigration than previous presidents, and immigrant-rights groups have excoriated President Obama, calling him the “deporter-in-chief” for having kicked out nearly 2 million immigrants during his five-year tenure.


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But Republican critics have argued those deportation numbers are artificially inflated because more than half of those being deported were new arrivals, caught at the border by the U.S. Border Patrol. Previous administrations primarily counted only those caught in the interior of the U.S. by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

“Under the Obama administration, more than half of those removals that were attributed to ICE are actually a result of Border Patrol arrests that wouldn’t have been counted in prior administrations,” said Rep. John Culberson, Texas Republican.

“Correct,” Mr. Johnson confirmed.

That would mean that in a one-to-one comparison with the final years of the Bush administration, deportations of those same people under Mr. Obama had actually fallen, according to immigration analysts who have studied the data.

In 2013, ICE was responsible for about 133,000 of the 368,000 immigrants removed. The Washington Times calculated that meant a less than 1 percent risk of an illegal immigrant living in the interior of the U.S. being deported.

Mr. Johnson said they are prioritizing those they think deserve deportation. In the past, illegal immigrants from Mexico who had just illegally crossed the border would often times be returned, only to try again almost immediately. Now, many of them are put into full deportation proceedings.


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“We are enforcing the law. We are enforcing the law vigorously and effectively, which results in the removal of over 300,000 people a year over the last several years,” Mr. Johnson said. “We are using the resources Congress gave us to remove those we believe are threats to national security, public safety and border security. And they result in the numbers that you see.”

Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle Tuesday pleaded with Mr. Johnson for more information on the status of immigration enforcement, saying it is tougher to pass a comprehensive immigration-reform bill.

That was a frequent complaint from Congress to Mr. Johnson’s predecessor, former DHS Secretary Janet A. Napolitano, who left the office last September.

Mr. Johnson has promised to be more responsive, saying he will answer lawmakers’ questions and try to get them information.

“Better information may not be the way to reach consensus on every question of border and immigration enforcement policy, but it would help us. It would elevate the discussion to one based on empirical evidence and agreed-upon data,” said Rep. David Price, North Carolina Democrat.

The Senate last year passed a broad immigration bill legalizing most illegal immigrants, boosting border security spending by tens of billions of dollars and rewriting the legal immigration system.

But House Republicans have balked, arguing they don’t trust Mr. Obama to enforce the laws — and they point to his carving up of deportation policy as one example.

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candlegal
by Judy on Mar. 12, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Looks like this administration has been cooking the books with more lies.

coolmommy2x
by Platinum Member on Mar. 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM
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If they're caught at the border, they're not getting in. If they're caught from the interior, they already got in. Just perpetuating the us vs. them mentality.
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candlegal
by Judy on Mar. 12, 2014 at 9:42 AM

They have been saying all along that they have deported more immigrants than the previous administration.  The previous administrations did not count those caught at the border, so just another lie to make them look good.

Quoting coolmommy2x: If they're caught at the border, they're not getting in. If they're caught from the interior, they already got in. Just perpetuating the us vs. them mentality.


coolmommy2x
by Platinum Member on Mar. 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM
I'm sure you'll disagree but it sounds like apples and oranges to me. Border, interior.

Quoting candlegal:

They have been saying all along that they have deported more immigrants than the previous administration.  The previous administrations did not count those caught at the border, so just another lie to make them look good.

Quoting coolmommy2x: If they're caught at the border, they're not getting in. If they're caught from the interior, they already got in. Just perpetuating the us vs. them mentality.

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candlegal
by Judy on Mar. 12, 2014 at 9:48 AM

It is not apples and oranges when they are using the numbers to lie to the american people.   But I would be willing to bet you don't have a problem with that.

Quoting coolmommy2x: I'm sure you'll disagree but it sounds like apples and oranges to me. Border, interior.
Quoting candlegal:

They have been saying all along that they have deported more immigrants than the previous administration.  The previous administrations did not count those caught at the border, so just another lie to make them look good.

Quoting coolmommy2x: If they're caught at the border, they're not getting in. If they're caught from the interior, they already got in. Just perpetuating the us vs. them mentality.


coolmommy2x
by Platinum Member on Mar. 12, 2014 at 9:52 AM
Think what you like. =) I think catching them at the border is more important than after they get in. If you don't, that's fine.

Quoting candlegal:

It is not apples and oranges when they are using the numbers to lie to the american people.   But I would be willing to bet you don't have a problem with that.

Quoting coolmommy2x: I'm sure you'll disagree but it sounds like apples and oranges to me. Border, interior.

Quoting candlegal:

They have been saying all along that they have deported more immigrants than the previous administration.  The previous administrations did not count those caught at the border, so just another lie to make them look good.

Quoting coolmommy2x: If they're caught at the border, they're not getting in. If they're caught from the interior, they already got in. Just perpetuating the us vs. them mentality.

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VooDooB
by on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:00 AM

I never bought it that BO deported more illegals than anyone else. 

candlegal
by Judy on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:04 AM

I didn't either.   I knew it was another lie by this administration but his cult will buy anything he is putting out there.

Quoting VooDooB:

I never bought it that BO deported more illegals than anyone else. 


romalove
by Roma on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:06 AM
Why did you have to add the nasty and insulting accusation? Can't you argue points on the merits without devaluing discussion with such crap?

Quoting candlegal:

It is not apples and oranges when they are using the numbers to lie to the american people.   But I would be willing to bet you don't have a problem with that.

Quoting coolmommy2x: I'm sure you'll disagree but it sounds like apples and oranges to me. Border, interior.

Quoting candlegal:

They have been saying all along that they have deported more immigrants than the previous administration.  The previous administrations did not count those caught at the border, so just another lie to make them look good.

Quoting coolmommy2x: If they're caught at the border, they're not getting in. If they're caught from the interior, they already got in. Just perpetuating the us vs. them mentality.

4evrinbluejeans
by KK on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:11 AM

what I find interesting is that in both numbers your source rounded down.  The Washington Time's bias just can't be ignored.  

I think the fact that those with criminal records was significantly higher than Bush would be a plus for you Candle.    In 2006 approx 96,000 with criminal records were removed.  That number in 2013 went up approx 14.5%  


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