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Why is voter ID a bad thing?

Posted by on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:07 AM
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I don't get it. What's the big beef about showing ID to vote? Don't we ALL want to avoid voting fraud?


Voting Records Raise Questions After Mummified Body Found


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PONTIAC (WWJ/AP) - Voting records are raising questions amid an investigation into the discovery of a woman’s mummified body in the garage of a foreclosed metro Detroit home.

The body found last Wednesday in Pontiac is that of Pia Farrenkopf — according to her sister, Paula Logan. Authorities investigating the case haven’t released her name, but they have said that the woman apparently died in 2008 at the age of 49.

According to a report in the Detroit Free Press, records show Farrenkopf as voting in the November 2010 gubernatorial election. Officials say, however, that it may represent an administrative error. Oakland County Sheriff Mike Bouchard says the information must be checked out.

Farrenkopf’s body was found March 5 in the back seat of her Jeep Liberty, parked in the attached garage of her home in the 1600 block of Savanna, near Walton Boulevard and Silver Lake Road in Pontiac. The discovery was made just after 5 p.m. by a contractor who was working at the home, which is going through foreclosure.

According to police, the electricity was still on in the house, but there was no heat. The home also has a large amount what appears to be black mold, police said, and is a HAZMAT situation.

The Oakland County Sheriff’s Department is investigating the circumstances behind Farrenkopf’s death. An autopsy didn’t reveal any signs of trauma, police said, and a cause of death is pending.Investigators said the Jeep keys were in the ignition, which was in the off position – likely ruling out the possibility of carbon monoxide poisoning.

Neighbors described Farrenkopf as a German immigrant who generally kept to herself and traveled frequently for work, often for weeks at a time, so no one thought anything of her absence. Some said it was probably six years since they last saw the woman, while others just assumed she had moved.

Police say Farrenkopf lived in the home by herself and had all of her bills — including her mortgage and utilities — automatically withdrawn from her checking account. Once her account was depleted and the mortgage payments stopped, the home went into foreclosure. Mail also never piled up at the house because Farrenkopf apparently picked it up at the post office.

Oakland County Undersheriff Mike McCabe told reporters that officers visited Farrenkopf’s home for a “wellness check” in 2007, but found “nothing out of the ordinary.” He said Farrenkopf was never reported as a missing person.

Investigators are awaiting toxicology results, which could take weeks, but are treating the woman’s death as a homicide.

An investigation is ongoing.

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tanyainmizzou
by on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:11 AM
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It isn't. It is a whine used by the left to pretend discrimination where there is none.

Apparently minorities never cash checks or buy Sudafed or buy liquor or fly or rent or work.
VooDooB
by Emerald Member on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Why would showing ID to vote be disrimination? I'm just not seeing the reasoning I guess....?

Quoting tanyainmizzou: It isn't. It is a whine used by the left to pretend discrimination where there is none. Apparently minorities never cash checks or buy Sudafed or buy liquor or fly or rent or work.


Chris030406
by Bronze Member on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:14 AM
This is one issue where I suppose I "swing right." I don't have an issue with an ID. I've been asked to show my DL to verify my address before voting.

I think the argument is that IDs are discriminatory, though I don't see how.
Sisteract
by Whoopie on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM
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It isn't...just like there should be far more hoops to jump through in order to own a gun- same/same.

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM
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I don't see why showing your ID to vote is such a big deal to many. *shrug*

aimesnyc
by on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:21 AM

I'm Liberal/left-leaning and I don't see a problem with it.  *shrug*

Quoting tanyainmizzou: It isn't. It is a whine used by the left to pretend discrimination where there is none. Apparently minorities never cash checks or buy Sudafed or buy liquor or fly or rent or work.


timeforprogress
by Silver Member on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:25 AM
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My problem is with the sudden motivation to change voting rules after demographic changes mean Republicans struggle to win popular vote in national elections. The purpose looks to be to attempt to discourage poor minorities from voting by enacting voter ID laws and cutting back on early voting that African American voters tend to take advantage of.
tanyainmizzou
by on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:28 AM
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And there we have it.

Minorities are not able to have ID
trippyhippy
by Platinum Member on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:31 AM
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I'm not 100% against it but as someone who has a bad habit of loosing IDs and Debit cards I would freak if voting happened to be during that weeks long wait for a new ID.

MamaJess9
by Bronze Member on Mar. 12, 2014 at 10:33 AM
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The argument I've seen is that there are apparently older people in rural areas who were born before birth certificates were used in those areas... therefore they have no proof of who they are to obtain a DL or state ID.  But I don't really understand it either, because wouldn't that be an issue with other things?  Do none of those people want to drive, or use credit cards, or travel?

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