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Insurance coverage for Controception vs. Erectial Dysfunction

Posted by on Mar. 21, 2014 at 1:25 AM
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What do you think about Health care coverage for erectial dysfunction for males while the Republicans making such an issue about the coverage of birth control.  Double standard as usual, right?

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PPCLC
by Bronze Member on Mar. 21, 2014 at 1:28 AM

Erectile dysfunction is a health-care issue and because it is a symptom of a larger problem with many men.

ED is a symptom of many health-care problems for men including Diabetes and depression.

While I do feel BC should be covered, it doesn't negate the very real problem of ED for men.

I don't see the double standard at all.

Quoting MommaEST.99:

What do you think about Health care coverage for erectial dysfunction for males while the Republicans making such an issue about the coverage of birth control.  Double standard as usual, right?


MommaEST.99
by Member on Mar. 21, 2014 at 1:33 AM
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Quoting PPCLC:

Erectile dysfunction is a health-care issue and because it is a symptom of a larger problem with many men.

ED is a symptom of many health-care problems for men including Diabetes and depression.

While I do feel BC should be covered, it doesn't negate the very real problem of ED for men.

I don't see the double standard at all.

Quoting MommaEST.99:

What do you think about Health care coverage for erectial dysfunction for males while the Republicans making such an issue about the coverage of birth control.  Double standard as usual, right?

 

 Birth Control Pills serve a purpose beyond preventing pregnancy.  They also are used to keep cycles regular and to regulate hormones which can prevent problems for females.  Viagra and Penis Pumps do not prevent issues they are used to help the effects males have from a medical issue they already have.

angelenia
by Bronze Member on Mar. 21, 2014 at 1:34 AM
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PPCLC
by Bronze Member on Mar. 21, 2014 at 1:45 AM
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Quoting MommaEST.99:


Quoting PPCLC:

Erectile dysfunction is a health-care issue and because it is a symptom of a larger problem with many men.

ED is a symptom of many health-care problems for men including Diabetes and depression.

While I do feel BC should be covered, it doesn't negate the very real problem of ED for men.

I don't see the double standard at all.

Quoting MommaEST.99:

What do you think about Health care coverage for erectial dysfunction for males while the Republicans making such an issue about the coverage of birth control.  Double standard as usual, right?


 Birth Control Pills serve a purpose beyond preventing pregnancy.  They also are used to keep cycles regular and to regulate hormones which can prevent problems for females.  Viagra and Penis Pumps do not prevent issues they are used to help the effects males have from a medical issue they already have.

Sometimes the first sign of a bigger problem for a man is when he starts experiencing ED. After further investigation, tests, lab work, etc., that's when the true source of the problem is often discovered.

That is highly important and equally as important as birth control.

A long time ago, I worked for a urologist here locally in my state. We had a young man come in for ED issues who wanted to see (after a required, physical exam) if he could get Viagara. At such a young age--he was around 26--there was strong suspicion that more was possibly going on with him versus just getting older and losing that ability to have an erection.

Sure enough, the young man had testicular cancer, and would end up having a surgery.

So again....a diagnosis of an ED can be extremely important as it can potentially tell a bigger story.

MommaEST.99
by Member on Mar. 21, 2014 at 1:51 AM
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Quoting PPCLC:

 

Quoting MommaEST.99:

 

Quoting PPCLC:

Erectile dysfunction is a health-care issue and because it is a symptom of a larger problem with many men.

ED is a symptom of many health-care problems for men including Diabetes and depression.

While I do feel BC should be covered, it doesn't negate the very real problem of ED for men.

I don't see the double standard at all.

Quoting MommaEST.99:

What do you think about Health care coverage for erectial dysfunction for males while the Republicans making such an issue about the coverage of birth control.  Double standard as usual, right?

 

 Birth Control Pills serve a purpose beyond preventing pregnancy.  They also are used to keep cycles regular and to regulate hormones which can prevent problems for females.  Viagra and Penis Pumps do not prevent issues they are used to help the effects males have from a medical issue they already have.

Sometimes the first sign of a bigger problem for a man is when he starts experiencing ED. After further investigation, tests, lab work, etc., that's when the true source of the problem is often discovered.

That is highly important and equally as important as birth control.

A long time ago, I worked for a urologist here locally in my state. We had a young man come in for ED issues who wanted to see (after a required, physical exam) if he could get Viagara. At such a young age--he was around 26--there was strong suspicion that more was possibly going on with him versus just getting older and losing that ability to have an erection.

Sure enough, the young man had testicular cancer, and would end up having a surgery.

So again....a diagnosis of an ED can be extremely important as it can potentially tell a bigger story.

 Thanks for the facts but I still dont see how paying for Viagra isnt an issue but paying for birth control pills is.    The man you mentioned had a health issue which caused a need for Viagra.  But Viagra was not the cure for his testicular cancer nor is Viagra a medication that prevents anything except that it provides for a healthy sex life.

canadianmom1974
by Gold Member on Mar. 21, 2014 at 1:56 AM
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Yes the *diagnosis* of ED can potentially be very important. But how does diagnosing ED relate to drugs to treat it relate to the op?

BC is used for reasons other than just contraception. The diagnosis of those conditions can be very important.

We're not talking about the disorder, though, we're talking about the drug coverage to treat the disorder. If someone is diagnosed with ED, not having Viagra isn't going to cause them further physical harm, yet those drugs are covered. Not having BC can cause more physical harm, yet too often those drugs aren't covered.

There is a clear double standard.


Quoting PPCLC:

Quoting MommaEST.99:


Quoting PPCLC:

Erectile dysfunction is a health-care issue and because it is a symptom of a larger problem with many men.


ED is a symptom of many health-care problems for men including Diabetes and depression.


While I do feel BC should be covered, it doesn't negate the very real problem of ED for men.


I don't see the double standard at all.


Quoting MommaEST.99:

What do you think about Health care coverage for erectial dysfunction for males while the Republicans making such an issue about the coverage of birth control.  Double standard as usual, right?



 Birth Control Pills serve a purpose beyond preventing pregnancy.  They also are used to keep cycles regular and to regulate hormones which can prevent problems for females.  Viagra and Penis Pumps do not prevent issues they are used to help the effects males have from a medical issue they already have.

Sometimes the first sign of a bigger problem for a man is when he starts experiencing ED. After further investigation, tests, lab work, etc., that's when the true source of the problem is often discovered.

That is highly important and equally as important as birth control.

A long time ago, I worked for a urologist here locally in my state. We had a young man come in for ED issues who wanted to see (after a required, physical exam) if he could get Viagara. At such a young age--he was around 26--there was strong suspicion that more was possibly going on with him versus just getting older and losing that ability to have an erection.

Sure enough, the young man had testicular cancer, and would end up having a surgery.

So again....a diagnosis of an ED can be extremely important as it can potentially tell a bigger story.

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PPCLC
by Bronze Member on Mar. 21, 2014 at 1:57 AM


Quoting MommaEST.99:


Quoting PPCLC:


Quoting MommaEST.99:


Quoting PPCLC:

Erectile dysfunction is a health-care issue and because it is a symptom of a larger problem with many men.

ED is a symptom of many health-care problems for men including Diabetes and depression.

While I do feel BC should be covered, it doesn't negate the very real problem of ED for men.

I don't see the double standard at all.

Quoting MommaEST.99:

What do you think about Health care coverage for erectial dysfunction for males while the Republicans making such an issue about the coverage of birth control.  Double standard as usual, right?


 Birth Control Pills serve a purpose beyond preventing pregnancy.  They also are used to keep cycles regular and to regulate hormones which can prevent problems for females.  Viagra and Penis Pumps do not prevent issues they are used to help the effects males have from a medical issue they already have.

Sometimes the first sign of a bigger problem for a man is when he starts experiencing ED. After further investigation, tests, lab work, etc., that's when the true source of the problem is often discovered.

That is highly important and equally as important as birth control.

A long time ago, I worked for a urologist here locally in my state. We had a young man come in for ED issues who wanted to see (after a required, physical exam) if he could get Viagara. At such a young age--he was around 26--there was strong suspicion that more was possibly going on with him versus just getting older and losing that ability to have an erection.

Sure enough, the young man had testicular cancer, and would end up having a surgery.

So again....a diagnosis of an ED can be extremely important as it can potentially tell a bigger story.

 Thanks for the facts but I still dont see how paying for Viagra isnt an issue but paying for birth control pills is.    The man you mentioned had a health issue which caused a need for Viagra.  But Viagra was not the cure for his testicular cancer nor is Viagra a medication that prevents anything except that it provides for a healthy sex life.

I don't think you understand...he came into the urologist believing he had a need for Viagara. He left with a diagnosis of cancer at the very young age of 26.

He did not receive Viagara but had to have a surgery.

Viagara is not given out like M&M's. If a patient has an actual health-care issue causing the ED, that will be treated and/or they'll be sent for more testing, etc.

It shouldn't be a competition of one being more important than the other--treating ED to birth control--and no double standard exists as men benefit from the use of birth control in their spouse/significant other, as well.

PPCLC
by Bronze Member on Mar. 21, 2014 at 2:01 AM
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Because the health-care coverage for ED is not excursively Viagara nor is the treatment. 

Look for a double standard, and many can probably find one in a lot of things.

But dig a little deeper, and those same "many" would probably see there is not a need for competition (ie..labeling something a double standard) of what is more important than the other.

My comments about ED were in reference to the comments from the OP. She needs to dig a little deeper to realize that Viagara isn't the only treatment for ED, and that far too often, an ED is a symptom of a much larger health-care issue for men.

It doesn't negate the importance of BC but it also doesn't state that there's bias being shown or a double standard, either.

Quoting canadianmom1974: Yes the *diagnosis* of ED can potentially be very important. But how does diagnosing ED relate to drugs to treat it relate to the op? BC is used for reasons other than just contraception. The diagnosis of those conditions can be very important. We're not talking about the disorder, though, we're talking about the drug coverage to treat the disorder. If someone is diagnosed with ED, not having Viagra isn't going to cause them further physical harm, yet those drugs are covered. Not having BC can cause more physical harm, yet too often those drugs aren't covered. There is a clear double standard.
Quoting PPCLC:


Quoting MommaEST.99:


Quoting PPCLC:

Erectile dysfunction is a health-care issue and because it is a symptom of a larger problem with many men.

ED is a symptom of many health-care problems for men including Diabetes and depression.

While I do feel BC should be covered, it doesn't negate the very real problem of ED for men.

I don't see the double standard at all.

Quoting MommaEST.99:

What do you think about Health care coverage for erectial dysfunction for males while the Republicans making such an issue about the coverage of birth control.  Double standard as usual, right?


 Birth Control Pills serve a purpose beyond preventing pregnancy.  They also are used to keep cycles regular and to regulate hormones which can prevent problems for females.  Viagra and Penis Pumps do not prevent issues they are used to help the effects males have from a medical issue they already have.

Sometimes the first sign of a bigger problem for a man is when he starts experiencing ED. After further investigation, tests, lab work, etc., that's when the true source of the problem is often discovered.

That is highly important and equally as important as birth control.

A long time ago, I worked for a urologist here locally in my state. We had a young man come in for ED issues who wanted to see (after a required, physical exam) if he could get Viagara. At such a young age--he was around 26--there was strong suspicion that more was possibly going on with him versus just getting older and losing that ability to have an erection.

Sure enough, the young man had testicular cancer, and would end up having a surgery.

So again....a diagnosis of an ED can be extremely important as it can potentially tell a bigger story.


tanyainmizzou
by on Mar. 21, 2014 at 2:23 AM
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When did the government mandate coverage for Viagra, et al, be at no cost and that is has to be provided in all plans?

Until they do that, there is no double standard.
Ziva65
by Gold Member on Mar. 21, 2014 at 2:33 AM

Just what I was thinking. ie: Blood pressure- hypertension can cause it, and unfortunately so can the meds for it... so can some antidepressants, etc. 

Quoting PPCLC:

Erectile dysfunction is a health-care issue and because it is a symptom of a larger problem with many men.

ED is a symptom of many health-care problems for men including Diabetes and depression.

While I do feel BC should be covered, it doesn't negate the very real problem of ED for men.

I don't see the double standard at all.

Quoting MommaEST.99:

What do you think about Health care coverage for erectial dysfunction for males while the Republicans making such an issue about the coverage of birth control.  Double standard as usual, right?

 

 

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