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Nun tells NC high schoolers: Masturbation and ‘lack of masculinity’ make you gay

Posted by on Apr. 3, 2014 at 12:49 AM
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Nun tells high school assembly masturbating makes you gay [WSOC-TV]

Officials at Charlotte Catholic High School in North Carolina apologized to parents and students on Wednesday following a guest speaker’s remarks condemning homosexuality at a school assembly,WSOC-TV reported.

“The statement she basically made was that homosexuality was something developed from lack of masculinity or a lack of father figures in one life,” one student told WSOC regarding the speech from Sister Jane Dominic Laurel, an assistant professor of theology at Aquinas College in Nashville, Tennessee.

Several parents complained that they were not notified about Laurel’s speech, which was originally billed as concerning “gender.”


A spokesperson for the Diocese of Charlotte told WSOC that Laurel “presented some ideas to the students that really kind of rocked their world. These had to do with the origin of homosexuality. This is something that is hotly debated.”

Q Notes reported that 64 students and 86 alumni signed on to a letter to school officials criticizing her remarks. In addition, more than 2,000 signed a petition at Change.orgcalling for an apology from both the school and its chaplain, Father Matthew Kauth.

“Using outdated or false statistics to tell children and young adults that their LGBTQ friends, family members, and colleagues are the result of their parents’ missteps is damaging. Suggesting that LGBTQ members of the very audience you were addressing owe their sexual identities to pornography and masturbation is abhorrent,” the letter read. “Presenting these false ideas to high school students not only advocates discrimination of LGBTQ students, but also tells those individuals that they are damaged or incomplete.”

However, Mother Jones reported that Sister Mary Sarah Galbraith, president of Acquinas College, released a statement saying Laurel’s lecture “was given with the intention of showing that human sexuality is a great gift to be treasured and that this gift is given by God.”

Watch WSOC’s report, as aired on Wednesday, below.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/02/nun-tells-nc-high-schoolers-masturbation-and-lack-of-masculinity-make-you-gay/

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RandRMomma
by Maya on Apr. 3, 2014 at 12:54 AM
Well, shit. That explains so much. My dad used to tell us to look in their room for the lotion. But, between the four of them, we just couldn't keep any lotion in the house. I wonder if any of them plan on coming out soon. ;) LOL
shannonnigans
by Platinum Member on Apr. 3, 2014 at 12:58 AM
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Having gone to a Catholic high school, I always found it nothing short of total insanity to have a sex-ed and a marriage/family living course taught by a nun and a priest, respectively. 

-Celestial-
by Pepperlynn on Apr. 3, 2014 at 1:00 AM
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Oh yea, I cant wait for my son to come out. I found some recipes to make homemade lotion. He's 12 now so by the time - happy time - kicks in, I should have a 50 gallon drum full.

Quoting RandRMomma: Well, shit. That explains so much. My dad used to tell us to look in their room for the lotion. But, between the four of them, we just couldn't keep any lotion in the house. I wonder if any of them plan on coming out soon. ;) LOL


RandRMomma
by Maya on Apr. 3, 2014 at 1:01 AM
LOL!!! That's a lot of lotion.

Quoting -Celestial-:

Oh yea, I cant wait for my son to come out. I found some recipes to make homemade lotion. He's 12 now so by the time - happy time - kicks in, I should have a 50 gallon drum full.

Quoting RandRMomma: Well, shit. That explains so much. My dad used to tell us to look in their room for the lotion. But, between the four of them, we just couldn't keep any lotion in the house. I wonder if any of them plan on coming out soon. ;) LOL

-Celestial-
by Pepperlynn on Apr. 3, 2014 at 1:04 AM

Even Nuns Think Masturbation Is Awesome!

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She doesn't think female masturbation is wrong--but her higher ups don't agree. | Source: Shutterstock

Though in most cases the Catholic church isn’t fond of nearly anything sexual happening between anyone who isn’t married, one nun is coming out in favor of masturbation–specifically, female masturbation–and raising Hell with the Vatican.

Sister Margaret Farley published a book called Just Love, a Framework for Christian Sexual Ethics, and because of its content (in addition to supporting both male and female masturbation, she also endorses gay marriage and doesn’t look down on divorce), she’s coming under fire for preaching “radical feminist ideas.” We think it’s important to note that Sister Farley did warn that the book shouldn’t be used by Catholic educators, so it’s not like she was deliberately, directly, nor overtly preaching against the church’s beliefs to its followers.

With all due respect to the Catholic church and its followers, what her higher-ups are calling “radical feminist ideas,” a lot of us call “common sense.” Because guess what? Masturbation is pretty popular, not all marriages work, and not allowing gays to marry is sort of creating a “separate but equal” doctrine that was tossed out with the first Civil Rights Movement. It’s one thing to be too scared or complacent to want move forward, but this kind of outdated thinking is setting people back.

The other thing is, the people who oppose Farley’s teachings in the book probably haven’t even read it through carefully and just had knee-jerk reactions to words like “masturbation.” In the tome, she actually says masturbation–especially female masturbation–wouldn’t necessarily be a substitute for sexual relationships among committed partners, but actually a way to make them better. She explains that both male and female masturbation let partners figure out what gets them off, which will make sex with their partner better later on. Makes sense, doesn’t it?

But that’s exactly what bugs them the most. The excerpt they cite most in badmouthing Farley’s work is the following bit on female masturbation, in which she explains how female masturbation benefits not only women but their husbands: “[Many women] have found great good in self-pleasuring–perhaps especially in the discovery of their own possibilities for pleasure–something many had not experienced or even known about in their ordinary sexual relations with husbands or lovers.” She finishes by saying that female masturbation “actually serves relationships rather than hindering them.”

We agree! If masturbation can help you in your sex life, it’ll inevitably help your relationship as well–because if you’re with a guy who makes sex feel less than stellar, you’re not going to be happy. And when you’re miserable, what’s the point of being attached? It sounds like Farley may have been pointing to the fact that maybe–just maybe–female masturbation may actually prevent the also-looked-down-upon divorce epidemic.

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This is basically how the Vatican interpreted Sister Margaret Farley's support of female masturbation. 

We understand the thinking that sex should only be for procreation (though goodness knows a lot of us don’t agree with it). But the reason sex is supposed to feel good is because if it didn’t, we as a species wouldn’t do it–and then we’d probably die out. We also understand wanting to adhere to old standards and traditions, but that’s not always a good idea to sustain a system or institution–think of it this way: If we didn’t change our thinking at all over time, girls still wouldn’t get an education or be allowed to vote, and women and girls wouldn’t be allowed to wear pants. Ridiculous, right?!

Whether or not you think evolution is what got us here, sometimes it’s necessary to survive. Perhaps if the Catholic church evolved its thinking on female masturbation–among other things–there would be less conflict between nuns and the Vatican–and more women and girls devoted to its teachings.



Read more: http://www.gurl.com/2012/06/06/nuns-think-masturbation-is-awesome/#ixzz2xnS8bteX

kwannon
by Member on Apr. 3, 2014 at 1:15 AM

"Sister Mary Sarah Galbraith, president of Acquinas College, released a statement saying Laurel’s lecture “was given with the intention of showing that human sexuality is a great gift to be treasured and that this gift is given by God.”

You can give a lecture about this without having to belittle and condemn homosexuality.  Ridiculous!

Clairwil
by Ruby Member on Apr. 3, 2014 at 4:17 AM

Judge for yourself.

The nun's lectures are available online, at:

http://www.newmanconnection.com/institute/courses/rich-gift-of-love


If you listen to just one, try:

Masculinity & Femininity: Difference & Gift Part III

Masculinity and Feminity: Boys and Girls

In this class Sister talks to us about some of the differences between man and woman, how they bond, how they relate and then ends with how they complement each other.

Clairwil
by Ruby Member on Apr. 3, 2014 at 4:19 AM

billsfan1104
by Jules on Apr. 3, 2014 at 7:36 AM
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And this is what some were saying in the other thread, about how it is ok to make fun of Christians.
The proof is in the post.
stormcris
by Christy on Apr. 3, 2014 at 7:53 AM

How does one determine someone to lack masculinity? Is there some new biblical book I am unaware of that gives a set of rules for being masculine?

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