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President Obama Wants Answers in 2nd Fort Hood Shooting in 5 Years

Posted by on Apr. 3, 2014 at 9:19 AM
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[UPDATED] President Obama Wants Answers in 2nd Fort Hood Shooting in 5 Years

by Jenny Erikson

Fort HoodAnother shooting has taken place at the Fort Hood Military base, less than five years after Nidal Hasan opened fire and killed 13 people (including a pregnant female soldier) and injured 32 others.

This time the shooting is being reported as a "soldier on soldier" incident, rather than a potential terror attack. Several reports are emerging that it was a lone shooter who took his own life. NBC News is reporting that officials identified 34-year-old Ivan Lopez as the gunman, but would not confirm if he was in uniform, or the alleged suicide.

At least eight have been injured, but conflicting reports mention as many as 14. At least four of those wounded are in "extremely grave" condition, according to U.S. military officials.

The shooting occured about 4:30 P.M. (5:30 P.M. ET), and the base's emergency alert system went off immediately. Personnel were instructed to "shelter in place."

Nearby residents like Antonio Ortiz, 30, said they were scared for their children, because they heard the alarms but didn't know what was going on. He said he went outside when he heard the commotion, and back in when he heard the announcement to stay inside. He says he heard gunshots as he turned his TV on to find out what was going on.

"It sounded powerful,” he said, adding that while it seemed to be coming from the base, he couldn't rule out the possibility someone in the civilian neighborhood was shooting.

"I’m scared for my son. He’s 7," Ortiz said. "But I do have a 12-gauge pump shotgun."

President Obama addressed the shooting shortly after it happened, saying, "We're heartbroken something like this might have happened again ... we're following it closely. The situation is fluid right now ... I want to just assure all of us we are going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened."

Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel echoed the president's sentiments, saying the incident was a "terrible tragedy," and that it's under investigation. "We don't have all the facts yet. We will get those," he said.

I'm hoping they do, because opening fire on the brave men and women that serve our country in uniform is truly deplorable. The soldiers that were injured, or even possibly killed today deserve some answers.

Update 4/3/14 12:37 A.M. ET: The shooter has been confirmed as Spc. Ivan Lopez. He killed three people and wounded 16 others before taking his own life. He was being treated for depression and anxiety, and evaluated for post-traumatic stress disorder, but had not been diagnosed with it yet. He served four months in Iraq in 2011.

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FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Apr. 3, 2014 at 1:30 PM
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From what I have read it seems this man snapped.

This is horrific, sad and frightening.

They need to take a good look at his depression, anxiety and other issues he may have had.

Not every one responds to treatment.

I have no answers and I can't speculate on this man's inner demons.

I pray for all those involved.

Bookwormy
by Ruby Member on Apr. 3, 2014 at 1:32 PM
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Mental illness, PTSD, & the military are very serious issues indeed.
cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on Apr. 3, 2014 at 1:40 PM

I also think we need to reconsider the issue of our people on these bases being allowed to be armed (beyond the MPs). If they had been carrying firearms, they might have prevented him from hurting so many people. 

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Apr. 3, 2014 at 1:41 PM
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Quoting cjsbmom:

I also think we need to reconsider the issue of our people on these bases being allowed to be armed (beyond the MPs). If they had been carrying firearms, they might have prevented him from hurting so many people. 

I don't know how I feel about this.

I work on a base and believe me, half the people I see on a daily basis, if I knew they were allowed to carry I would be mortified.

cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on Apr. 3, 2014 at 1:42 PM


Quoting FromAtoZ:

Quoting cjsbmom:

I also think we need to reconsider the issue of our people on these bases being allowed to be armed (beyond the MPs). If they had been carrying firearms, they might have prevented him from hurting so many people. 

I don't know how I feel about this.

I work on a base and believe me, half the people I see on a daily basis, if I knew they were allowed to carry I would be mortified.

It's a fine line, that's for sure. 

tanyainmizzou
by on Apr. 3, 2014 at 1:48 PM
Then maybe they shouldn't be on the base.

Quoting FromAtoZ:

Quoting cjsbmom:

I also think we need to reconsider the issue of our people on these bases being allowed to be armed (beyond the MPs). If they had been carrying firearms, they might have prevented him from hurting so many people. 

I don't know how I feel about this.

I work on a base and believe me, half the people I see on a daily basis, if I knew they were allowed to carry I would be mortified.

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Apr. 3, 2014 at 1:51 PM


Quoting tanyainmizzou: Then maybe they shouldn't be on the base.
Quoting FromAtoZ:

Quoting cjsbmom:

I also think we need to reconsider the issue of our people on these bases being allowed to be armed (beyond the MPs). If they had been carrying firearms, they might have prevented him from hurting so many people. 

I don't know how I feel about this.

I work on a base and believe me, half the people I see on a daily basis, if I knew they were allowed to carry I would be mortified.

Who, those AD members who if were allowed to carry a weapon at all times would make more people feel less at east?

You might as well get rid of half of the AD members then.

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Apr. 3, 2014 at 1:53 PM

 Maybe they can re-evaluate but the change was issues by the Dept. of Army and the US Department of Defense. Depends on their reasoning

 

A change in U.S. Army regulations issued in March 1993 (just two months after President Clinton assumed office) did affect the issue of personnel carrying firearms on military bases, but that change in regulations was issued by the Department of the Army and was not implemented by President Clinton via an executive order. Moreover, that change in regulations came about in response to a U.S. Department of Defense directive issued in February 1992, during the presidency of George H.W. Bush, and not at the sole behest of President Clinton.

Additionally, that change in regulations (which applied only to the Army, not other branches of the U.S. armed forces) did not ban the carrying of weapons by soldiers on Army bases; it restricted the authorization to carry firearms to personnel engaged in law enforcement and security duties, and to personnel stationed at facilities where there was "a reasonable expectation that life or Army assets would be jeopardized if firearms were not carried":

a. The authorization to carry firearms will be issued only to qualified personnel when there is a reasonable expectation that life or Department of the Army (DA) assets will be jeopardized if firearms are not carried. Evaluation of the necessity to carry a firearm will be made considering this expectation weighed against the possible consequences of accidental or indiscriminate use of firearms.

b. DA personnel regularly engaged in law enforcement or security duties will be armed.

c. DA personnel are authorized to carry firearms while engaged in security duties, protecting personnel and vital Government assets, or guarding prisoners.

Quoting cjsbmom:

I also think we need to reconsider the issue of our people on these bases being allowed to be armed (beyond the MPs). If they had been carrying firearms, they might have prevented him from hurting so many people. 

 

pamelax3
by Gold Member on Apr. 3, 2014 at 2:02 PM

So very sad. Not sure how anyone will get to the bottom of this the shooter killed himself.

Momniscient
by Obama licker on Apr. 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM
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Of course he does.

Don't we all? This is a serious issue that has got to be addressed by the military.


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