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What are the REAL reasons the Feds are against the legalization of marijuana?? s/o

Posted by on Apr. 3, 2014 at 4:55 PM
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When drugs like methamphetamine are FDA approved and available by RX in every state, and party drugs like Ketamine are being researched for medical uses? That simple fact pretty much blows every argument against the legalization of, at the least, medical marijuana, out of the water.
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stormcris
by Christy on Apr. 3, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Ketamine is FDA approved for many things as well.

Marijuana is a cash crop being illegal. It bring in too much money to the federal government that way. They take tax money to continue this war on pot that we cannot afford. They deal it much like weapons and that money doesn't go back into tax accounts. Then they take out any competition with it being illegal. 

Jack_Squat
by Silver Member on Apr. 3, 2014 at 5:30 PM
The same argument can be used with Methamphetamine, but it's legal.

Quoting stormcris:

Ketamine is FDA approved for many things as well.

Marijuana is a cash crop being illegal. It bring in too much money to the federal government that way. They take tax money to continue this war on pot that we cannot afford. They deal it much like weapons and that money doesn't go back into tax accounts. Then they take out any competition with it being illegal. 

stormcris
by Christy on Apr. 3, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Well Dsox is seldom used and it was approved 1946 but made illegal only in the 70s. The FDA approved version has severe warning with use of it only as a last resort. The street version is in a different form.

Quoting Jack_Squat: The same argument can be used with Methamphetamine, but it's legal.
Quoting stormcris:

Ketamine is FDA approved for many things as well.

Marijuana is a cash crop being illegal. It bring in too much money to the federal government that way. They take tax money to continue this war on pot that we cannot afford. They deal it much like weapons and that money doesn't go back into tax accounts. Then they take out any competition with it being illegal. 


Jack_Squat
by Silver Member on Apr. 3, 2014 at 5:50 PM
The only difference is the purity of the drug, which is no different than all the different kinds of marijuana. The fact is, it's available, whereas marijuana is not at all in many states. How often it's actually prescribed or any FDA warnings issued is irrelevant. The fact remains that it's an FDA approved, available option.

Quoting stormcris:

Well Dsox is seldom used and it was approved 1946 but made illegal only in the 70s. The FDA approved version has severe warning with use of it only as a last resort. The street version is in a different form.

Quoting Jack_Squat: The same argument can be used with Methamphetamine, but it's legal.

Quoting stormcris:

Ketamine is FDA approved for many things as well.

Marijuana is a cash crop being illegal. It bring in too much money to the federal government that way. They take tax money to continue this war on pot that we cannot afford. They deal it much like weapons and that money doesn't go back into tax accounts. Then they take out any competition with it being illegal. 

stormcris
by Christy on Apr. 3, 2014 at 6:02 PM

I see it a bit differently. The approved methamphetamine is in a pill form. Ingesting it does not do what smoking crystal meth does. Thus it is not competition to the street form. A person cannot simply get a prescript and take the pill and experience that high they get from crystal meth.

Now something that is looking into getting approved is MDMA and the FDA has approved the trials for that drug. It is very much the same as the street drug.

Yet, there are two FDA approved drugs from marijuana also. Dronabinol and Nabilone, contain THC and are used to treat nausea caused by chemotherapy and wasting disease (extreme weight loss) caused by AIDS. Sativex, which contains approximately equal parts THC and CBD, is currently approved in the UK and several European countries to treat spasticity caused by multiple sclerosis (MS), and it is now in Phase III clinical trials in the U.S. to establish its effectiveness and safety in treating cancer pain. Epidiolex has recently been created to treat certain forms of childhood epilepsy but still must go through the FDA trials.

So the street forms (except perhaps MDMA) will not be what is approved they are getting approvals for other forms. Thus the buds you smoke will still remain a cash crop as will crystal meth.

Quoting Jack_Squat: The only difference is the purity of the drug, which is no different than all the different kinds of marijuana. The fact is, it's available, whereas marijuana is not at all in many states. How often it's actually prescribed or any FDA warnings issued is irrelevant. The fact remains that it's an FDA approved, available option.
Quoting stormcris:

Well Dsox is seldom used and it was approved 1946 but made illegal only in the 70s. The FDA approved version has severe warning with use of it only as a last resort. The street version is in a different form.

Quoting Jack_Squat: The same argument can be used with Methamphetamine, but it's legal.
Quoting stormcris:

Ketamine is FDA approved for many things as well.

Marijuana is a cash crop being illegal. It bring in too much money to the federal government that way. They take tax money to continue this war on pot that we cannot afford. They deal it much like weapons and that money doesn't go back into tax accounts. Then they take out any competition with it being illegal. 


Jack_Squat
by Silver Member on Apr. 3, 2014 at 6:17 PM
MDMA is another good example. In regards to methamphetamine, the dosage is the only thing that keeps the person from getting high. If you ingest a small dose of the street form (swallowing), you get relatively the same effects without the "high".

Quoting stormcris:

I see it a bit differently. The approved methamphetamine is in a pill form. Ingesting it does not do what smoking crystal meth does. Thus it is not competition to the street form. A person cannot simply get a prescript and take the pill and experience that high they get from crystal meth.

Now something that is looking into getting approved is MDMA and the FDA has approved the trials for that drug. It is very much the same as the street drug.

Yet, there are two FDA approved drugs from marijuana also. Dronabinol and Nabilone, contain THC and are used to treat nausea caused by chemotherapy and wasting disease (extreme weight loss) caused by AIDS. Sativex, which contains approximately equal parts THC and CBD, is currently approved in the UK and several European countries to treat spasticity caused by multiple sclerosis (MS), and it is now in Phase III clinical trials in the U.S. to establish its effectiveness and safety in treating cancer pain. Epidiolex has recently been created to treat certain forms of childhood epilepsy but still must go through the FDA trials.

So the street forms (except perhaps MDMA) will not be what is approved they are getting approvals for other forms. Thus the buds you smoke will still remain a cash crop as will crystal meth.

Quoting Jack_Squat: The only difference is the purity of the drug, which is no different than all the different kinds of marijuana. The fact is, it's available, whereas marijuana is not at all in many states. How often it's actually prescribed or any FDA warnings issued is irrelevant. The fact remains that it's an FDA approved, available option.

Quoting stormcris:

Well Dsox is seldom used and it was approved 1946 but made illegal only in the 70s. The FDA approved version has severe warning with use of it only as a last resort. The street version is in a different form.

Quoting Jack_Squat: The same argument can be used with Methamphetamine, but it's legal.

Quoting stormcris:

Ketamine is FDA approved for many things as well.

Marijuana is a cash crop being illegal. It bring in too much money to the federal government that way. They take tax money to continue this war on pot that we cannot afford. They deal it much like weapons and that money doesn't go back into tax accounts. Then they take out any competition with it being illegal. 

stormcris
by Christy on Apr. 3, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Ahh sorry I didn't think it came in a pill on the street. I am only familar with people smoking it.

Quoting Jack_Squat: MDMA is another good example. In regards to methamphetamine, the dosage is the only thing that keeps the person from getting high. If you ingest a small dose of the street form (swallowing), you get relatively the same effects without the "high".
Quoting stormcris:

I see it a bit differently. The approved methamphetamine is in a pill form. Ingesting it does not do what smoking crystal meth does. Thus it is not competition to the street form. A person cannot simply get a prescript and take the pill and experience that high they get from crystal meth.

Now something that is looking into getting approved is MDMA and the FDA has approved the trials for that drug. It is very much the same as the street drug.

Yet, there are two FDA approved drugs from marijuana also. Dronabinol and Nabilone, contain THC and are used to treat nausea caused by chemotherapy and wasting disease (extreme weight loss) caused by AIDS. Sativex, which contains approximately equal parts THC and CBD, is currently approved in the UK and several European countries to treat spasticity caused by multiple sclerosis (MS), and it is now in Phase III clinical trials in the U.S. to establish its effectiveness and safety in treating cancer pain. Epidiolex has recently been created to treat certain forms of childhood epilepsy but still must go through the FDA trials.

So the street forms (except perhaps MDMA) will not be what is approved they are getting approvals for other forms. Thus the buds you smoke will still remain a cash crop as will crystal meth.

Quoting Jack_Squat: The only difference is the purity of the drug, which is no different than all the different kinds of marijuana. The fact is, it's available, whereas marijuana is not at all in many states. How often it's actually prescribed or any FDA warnings issued is irrelevant. The fact remains that it's an FDA approved, available option.
Quoting stormcris:

Well Dsox is seldom used and it was approved 1946 but made illegal only in the 70s. The FDA approved version has severe warning with use of it only as a last resort. The street version is in a different form.

Quoting Jack_Squat: The same argument can be used with Methamphetamine, but it's legal.
Quoting stormcris:

Ketamine is FDA approved for many things as well.

Marijuana is a cash crop being illegal. It bring in too much money to the federal government that way. They take tax money to continue this war on pot that we cannot afford. They deal it much like weapons and that money doesn't go back into tax accounts. Then they take out any competition with it being illegal. 


Jack_Squat
by Silver Member on Apr. 3, 2014 at 6:35 PM
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It's not in a pill form on the street. It's crystals...the color varying depending on the purity, completely clear being the best quality. Meth can be smoked, swallowed, snorted, injected or put up the bum (can't remember the term). Consuming it dissolved in a cup of morning coffee is extremely popular among middle and upper class housewives, believe it or not. Some put it in capsules or wrap it in a bit of tissue to swallow it, too.

Quoting stormcris: Ahh sorry I didn't think it came in a pill on the street. I am only familar with people smoking it.Quoting Jack_Squat: MDMA is another good example. In regards to methamphetamine, the dosage is the only thing that keeps the person from getting high. If you ingest a small dose of the street form (swallowing), you get relatively the same effects without the "high".

Quoting stormcris: I see it a bit differently. The approved methamphetamine is in a pill form. Ingesting it does not do what smoking crystal meth does. Thus it is not competition to the street form. A person cannot simply get a prescript and take the pill and experience that high they get from crystal meth. Now something that is looking into getting approved is MDMA and the FDA has approved the trials for that drug. It is very much the same as the street drug.Yet, there are two FDA approved drugs from marijuana also. Dronabinol and Nabilone, contain THC and are used to treat nausea caused by chemotherapy and wasting disease (extreme weight loss) caused by AIDS. Sativex, which contains approximately equal parts THC and CBD, is currently approved in the UK and several European countries to treat spasticity caused by multiple sclerosis (MS), and it is now in Phase III clinical trials in the U.S. to establish its effectiveness and safety in treating cancer pain. Epidiolex has recently been created to treat certain forms of childhood epilepsy but still must go through the FDA trials.So the street forms (except perhaps MDMA) will not be what is approved they are getting approvals for other forms. Thus the buds you smoke will still remain a cash crop as will crystal meth.Quoting Jack_Squat: The only difference is the purity of the drug, which is no different than all the different kinds of marijuana. The fact is, it's available, whereas marijuana is not at all in many states. How often it's actually prescribed or any FDA warnings issued is irrelevant. The fact remains that it's an FDA approved, available option.

Quoting stormcris: Well Dsox is seldom used and it was approved 1946 but made illegal only in the 70s. The FDA approved version has severe warning with use of it only as a last resort. The street version is in a different form.Quoting Jack_Squat: The same argument can be used with Methamphetamine, but it's legal.


Quoting stormcris:

Ketamine is FDA approved for many things as well.

Marijuana is a cash crop being illegal. It bring in too much money to the federal government that way. They take tax money to continue this war on pot that we cannot afford. They deal it much like weapons and that money doesn't go back into tax accounts. Then they take out any competition with it being illegal. 

Jack_Squat
by Silver Member on Apr. 3, 2014 at 7:07 PM
Another thing that bothers me is how versatile marijuana is, medical benefit-wise, vs drugs like Desoxyn. Like, let's battle against the drug that has multiple beneficial uses for drug patients, and no documented negative side effects but approve a drug that Has more risks than benefits.

Quoting stormcris:

I see it a bit differently. The approved methamphetamine is in a pill form. Ingesting it does not do what smoking crystal meth does. Thus it is not competition to the street form. A person cannot simply get a prescript and take the pill and experience that high they get from crystal meth.

Now something that is looking into getting approved is MDMA and the FDA has approved the trials for that drug. It is very much the same as the street drug.

Yet, there are two FDA approved drugs from marijuana also. Dronabinol and Nabilone, contain THC and are used to treat nausea caused by chemotherapy and wasting disease (extreme weight loss) caused by AIDS. Sativex, which contains approximately equal parts THC and CBD, is currently approved in the UK and several European countries to treat spasticity caused by multiple sclerosis (MS), and it is now in Phase III clinical trials in the U.S. to establish its effectiveness and safety in treating cancer pain. Epidiolex has recently been created to treat certain forms of childhood epilepsy but still must go through the FDA trials.

So the street forms (except perhaps MDMA) will not be what is approved they are getting approvals for other forms. Thus the buds you smoke will still remain a cash crop as will crystal meth.

Quoting Jack_Squat: The only difference is the purity of the drug, which is no different than all the different kinds of marijuana. The fact is, it's available, whereas marijuana is not at all in many states. How often it's actually prescribed or any FDA warnings issued is irrelevant. The fact remains that it's an FDA approved, available option.

Quoting stormcris:

Well Dsox is seldom used and it was approved 1946 but made illegal only in the 70s. The FDA approved version has severe warning with use of it only as a last resort. The street version is in a different form.

Quoting Jack_Squat: The same argument can be used with Methamphetamine, but it's legal.

Quoting stormcris:

Ketamine is FDA approved for many things as well.

Marijuana is a cash crop being illegal. It bring in too much money to the federal government that way. They take tax money to continue this war on pot that we cannot afford. They deal it much like weapons and that money doesn't go back into tax accounts. Then they take out any competition with it being illegal. 

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