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Do you think it's irresponsible to sail around the world with children so young?

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Navy Dramatically Rescues Sick 1-Year-Old Who Was Stuck at Sea

by Ericka Sóuter

It was like the scene out of a nail-biting action flick. A 1-year-old girl became seriously ill on a sailboat stranded in the middle of the ocean and the Navy heroically came to the rescue.

Lyra Kaufman, her sister and their parents were sailing around the world when the trouble began. Something went wrong with the sailboat and it lost power, leaving the family stranded 900 miles away from land. 

Then, little Lyra started to get very sick. She first broke out with a severe rash and then got an infection. They sent out distress signals and the Navy answered their desperate call. A team of medics flew out and then parachuted into the Pacific Ocean to save the baby girl. Now she is thankfully on the mend.

See more on the dramatic rescue.

Do you think it's irresponsible to sail around the world with children so young?

by on Apr. 7, 2014 at 9:13 AM
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Karmahappens
by Bronze Member on Apr. 7, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Adding the rescue cost in the hundreds of thousands-and under the law they cannot be charged for it-nor do they have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. The sailboat was where they lived, and it wasa scuttled after they took what they needed from it.

VERY doubtful it was insured.

matofour
by Bronze Member on Apr. 7, 2014 at 11:28 AM
I still don't see what's irresponsible.

They were cleared by a dr.

Many people live off the grid and was diapers in sinks, doesn't make them irresponsible.


Quoting Karmahappens:

You need the full story...... They sailed to Mexico  when she was pregnant with her youngest and lived there for 18 months. The husband passed the captains licensing course from the Coast Guard, but had never done a long trip like this before. BOTH kids and the Mom had been too ill  to leave  initially-they delayed their trip a week or so-all three  had been on antibiotics for varied illnesses. The Mom and baby had tested positive for salmonella.


So about 8 days later they left...supposedly after the Mexican Dr cleared them...They had only 30 gallons of  diesal fuel (needed if there was no wind) They had no pressuirzed water system and NO Hot water system. She blogged about washing the cloth diapers in the sink in the galley (kitchen)


One news report said the baby had salmonella...


The sailboat was 36 feet long .


So now what do you all think?

Karmahappens
by Bronze Member on Apr. 7, 2014 at 11:32 AM

 

Quoting matofour: I still don't see what's irresponsible. They were cleared by a dr. Many people live off the grid and was diapers in sinks, doesn't make them irresponsible.
Quoting Karmahappens:

You need the full story...... They sailed to Mexico  when she was pregnant with her youngest and lived there for 18 months. The husband passed the captains licensing course from the Coast Guard, but had never done a long trip like this before. BOTH kids and the Mom had been too ill  to leave  initially-they delayed their trip a week or so-all three  had been on antibiotics for varied illnesses. The Mom and baby had tested positive for salmonella.

So about 8 days later they left...supposedly after the Mexican Dr cleared them...They had only 30 gallons of  diesal fuel (needed if there was no wind) They had no pressuirzed water system and NO Hot water system. She blogged about washing the cloth diapers in the sink in the galley (kitchen)

One news report said the baby had salmonella...

The sailboat was 36 feet long .

So now what do you all think?

The CURRENT reason the baby is ill is salmonella.   And no you can't wash  diapers with poop in them in the kitchen sink.  Well you can-but this might be the result.

IF you choose to live off of the grid, one might assume you could still heat up water...or have a wood burning fireplace and a wook burning boiler

 

Seasidegirl
by Gold Member on Apr. 7, 2014 at 11:42 AM

 

Quoting angelachristine: Yes. I do. Extremely young children do not have fully developed immune systems and are prone to getting sick anyway without adding in being stuck on a boat away from medical help.

 Yea, but the parents might have figured that "stuck on a boat away..." = not exposed to crap, right? 

matofour
by Bronze Member on Apr. 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM
They had salmonella before they left.
Not while on the boat.
They had been cleared by a dr before they left from the salmonella.
The baby had a rash and they haven't said what else caused the baby to be so sick at this point.

Quoting Karmahappens:

 


Quoting matofour: I still don't see what's irresponsible. They were cleared by a dr. Many people live off the grid and was diapers in sinks, doesn't make them irresponsible.
Quoting Karmahappens:

You need the full story...... They sailed to Mexico  when she was pregnant with her youngest and lived there for 18 months. The husband passed the captains licensing course from the Coast Guard, but had never done a long trip like this before. BOTH kids and the Mom had been too ill  to leave  initially-they delayed their trip a week or so-all three  had been on antibiotics for varied illnesses. The Mom and baby had tested positive for salmonella.


So about 8 days later they left...supposedly after the Mexican Dr cleared them...They had only 30 gallons of  diesal fuel (needed if there was no wind) They had no pressuirzed water system and NO Hot water system. She blogged about washing the cloth diapers in the sink in the galley (kitchen)


One news report said the baby had salmonella...


The sailboat was 36 feet long .


So now what do you all think?


The CURRENT reason the baby is ill is salmonella.   And no you can't wash  diapers with poop in them in the kitchen sink.  Well you can-but this might be the result.


IF you choose to live off of the grid, one might assume you could still heat up water...or have a wood burning fireplace and a wook burning boiler


 

VooDooB
by Platinum Member on Apr. 7, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Assuming they use diapers. Many families don't.  IEC has increased in popularity in America over the last decade.

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom: I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with diapers on a sailboat sailing around the world. I'm just having a hard time wrapping my mind around it all.


"Hang on, let me send a PM to Jesus so he can join this name calling ignorance ...he's into that these days ...at least according to his peeps."
- sak

sillytime
by Bronze Member on Apr. 7, 2014 at 11:49 AM
No it's not irresponsible
furbabymum
by on Apr. 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM
2 moms liked this

 It's irresponsible to take a child anywhere then. When kids die in cars do we call the parents irresponsible? Can we not hike with kids in case something should happen? Should I not allow my kids outside my house at all in case something happens? Living in fear isn't the way to go!

MidwestMama55
by on Apr. 7, 2014 at 12:13 PM
1 mom liked this

Extremely irresponsible. I'd like to see this couple receive the bill for their rescue. Babies get sick all the time - to take such young children on such a trip is just plain stupid and selfish. As a taxpayer - I say charge them every last dime. If i'm on vacation and a child gets sick and has to be airlifted out, I pay for it. Why shouldn't they?

Karmahappens
by Bronze Member on Apr. 7, 2014 at 12:16 PM

 

Quoting matofour: They had salmonella before they left. Not while on the boat. They had been cleared by a dr before they left from the salmonella. The baby had a rash and they haven't said what else caused the baby to be so sick at this point.
Quoting Karmahappens:

 

Quoting matofour: I still don't see what's irresponsible. They were cleared by a dr. Many people live off the grid and was diapers in sinks, doesn't make them irresponsible.
Quoting Karmahappens:

You need the full story...... They sailed to Mexico  when she was pregnant with her youngest and lived there for 18 months. The husband passed the captains licensing course from the Coast Guard, but had never done a long trip like this before. BOTH kids and the Mom had been too ill  to leave  initially-they delayed their trip a week or so-all three  had been on antibiotics for varied illnesses. The Mom and baby had tested positive for salmonella.

So about 8 days later they left...supposedly after the Mexican Dr cleared them...They had only 30 gallons of  diesal fuel (needed if there was no wind) They had no pressuirzed water system and NO Hot water system. She blogged about washing the cloth diapers in the sink in the galley (kitchen)

One news report said the baby had salmonella...

The sailboat was 36 feet long .

So now what do you all think?

The CURRENT reason the baby is ill is salmonella.   And no you can't wash  diapers with poop in them in the kitchen sink.  Well you can-but this might be the result.

IF you choose to live off of the grid, one might assume you could still heat up water...or have a wood burning fireplace and a wook burning boiler

 

 "While her condition has stabilized, she still requires medical treatment," said a release from the California Air National Guard.
                                               
                       
                       
                                                                           
                                                           
                                                                       
                                                                       
                       
                                               
                                      
               
    Read: James Franco Admits to Flirting with 17-Year-Old Girl

                                               
                       
                       
                                                                           
                                                           
                                                                       
                                                                       
                       
                                               
                                      
                NBC 7 has learned the baby may suffer from some type of salmonella and has been given antibiotics.
                                               
                       
                       
                                                                           
                                                           
                                                                       
                                                                       
                       
                                               
                                      
                To complicate things, rescuers have discovered the sailboat has no power and no capability of steering itself.
                                               
                       
                       
                                                                           
                                                           
                                                                       
                                                                       
                       
                                               
                                      
                It's reportedly close, compact quarters on the boat, but all

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