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Satanic 'Mass' on Harvard Campus - religious freedom or Catholic bashing gone wild?

Posted by on May. 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM
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Satanic Mass at Harvard Marks Double Standard for Catholic Beliefs

Father Roger Landry, a Harvard alumn and Fall River priest, writes Harvard's president to ask why its okay to mock Catholic beliefs.

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by Joan Frawley Desmond Thursday, May 08, 2014 11:56 AM Comments (55)

In the past couple of days, Harvard University has heard from a slew of Catholics outraged about the planned reenactment of a Satanic mass on campus. The university issued a press release explaining that it wasn't endorsing the event, while the Boston Archdiocese has strongly opposed it, portraying it as an affront to Catholics and dangerous for anyone who participates in it:

This activity separates people from God and the human community, it is contrary to charity and goodness, and it places participants dangerously close to destructive works of evil.

[UPDATE: Catholics takes such matters very seriously. In fact, this week at the Vatican, Pope Francis is hosting a conference on exorcism. ] 

Now, Father Roger Landry, a Fall River, Mass. priest and a member of Harvard's undergraduate class of 1992, has joined his voice to the chorus of Catholics who want the Satanic mass canceled. And he argues that the university would offer a very different response if a planned event provoked outrage from Jews or Muslims.

In a May 8 letter to Harvard's president Drew Faust,  Father Landry states

To argue, as the Extension School's Press Release did, that it's about education or freedom of expression or assembly or religion is silly. We all know that if there were to be a seance to communicate with the soul of Adolf Hitler, Harvard would never countenance it, first because we're clearly dealing with conjuring evil, and second because it would be terribly injurious to Jewish members of the Harvard community and the wider community.

We also all know that if an "independent student organization" were trying to host an event in which there would be reenacting the burning of a copy of the Koran, it likewise would never be permitted, because Harvard would never associate itself would the desecration of Islam's sacred text or allow its name or property to be used in something that would obviously outrage the spiritual sensibilities of Muslims.  

Recently Brandeis University canceled plans for an honorary degree for a female scholar who had strongly criticicized the treatment of women in Islamic societies. Reportedly, Brandeis' administrators concluded that Muslim students and faculty on campus would perceive the award ceremony as an attack on their faith.

Today, The Wall Street Journal columnist Daniel Henninger writes about the appearance of "'trigger warnings' that professors are expected to post with their course to avoid 'traumatizing' students," who might disagree with ideas that challenge their views about race, heterosexism, etc.  

By comparison, the event sponsored by Harvard Extension is not a lecture, nor a panel discussion--both appropriate and traditional features of university life. Instead, notes Father Landry, it is 

A ceremony invoking Satan, mocking the Catholic Mass and desecrating what Catholics believe to be the Body of Jesus Christ - or if, implausibly, an unconsecrated host will be used, something that is at least meant to symbolize the Eucharist - should be treated in the same way. 

 Thus far, however, Harvard appears disinclined to act, and that reluctance suggests that the principle of tolerance is not applied universally at U.S. institutions of higer education. It is content-specific, and that means some beliefs just don't merit respect.

That said,  Father Landry tells Faust that it is not too late to cancel:

I'm hoping that you will use your office to respond as strongly to this insensitivity as NBA Commissioner Adam Silver recently used his office to respond to Donald Sterling's racist comments. That's what this situation warrants. That's what you have the power to do. And that's what I'm asking and praying that you will do.



Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/joan-desmond/satanic-mass-at-harvard-marks-doublestandard-for-catholics#ixzz31LIVXlrI

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autodidact
by Platinum Member on May. 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM
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ask why its okay to mock Catholic beliefs.

that'd be the first amendment. 

kailu1835
by Ruby Member on May. 10, 2014 at 3:30 PM
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Anything truly satanic is dangerous.  Many of the satanic practices are illegal.  Even when operating within the bounds of the law, practices are often unsafe and bordering on demented.

jobseeker
by Bronze Member on May. 10, 2014 at 3:34 PM
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 1st amendment protects ALL forms of free speach, but you would be the first and loudest protester if the ones being mocked was gay, or muslim or a minority.

If I don't want to bake a gay wedding cake, I'm bad

If I want to support traditional marriage, I am a bigot

if I want to promote Chrisitan values, I am narrow minded.

but if I want to mock the Roman Catholic church, it's free speech.

eye rolling

Quoting autodidact:

ask why its okay to mock Catholic beliefs.

that'd be the first amendment. 

 

momtoscott
by Platinum Member on May. 10, 2014 at 3:35 PM
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I'm kind of tickled that the Harvard president's last name is Faust.  

I think the people who want to participate in the event should be allowed to do so.  I would imagine ithis kind of ceremony is as important to Satanists as their mass is to Catholics.  The Catholics seem to be trying to suppress the Satanists' exercise of their religion.   

LoveMyBoyK
by Ruby Member on May. 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM
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If Catholics can practice, anyone else can too, as long as they are within bounds of the law. Suck it up, buttercup.

Quoting kailu1835:

Anything truly satanic is dangerous.  Many of the satanic practices are illegal.  Even when operating within the bounds of the law, practices are often unsafe and bordering on demented.

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momtoscott
by Platinum Member on May. 10, 2014 at 3:38 PM
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How is it mocking Catholicism for a Satanist to celebrate a Satanic mass?  Protestant churches also have taken the Catholic mass and altered it to fit their beliefs.  Is it mocking of Catholics every time a Baptist drinks grape juice and eats a bread cube, all the while convinced that she is eating juice and bread and not Christ's body and blood?  

Quoting jobseeker:

 1st amendment protects ALL forms of free speach, but you would be the first and loudest protester if the ones being mocked was gay, or muslim or a minority.

If I don't want to bake a gay wedding cake, I'm bad

If I want to support traditional marriage, I am a bigot

if I want to promote Chrisitan values, I am narrow minded.

but if I want to mock the Roman Catholic church, it's free speech.

eye rolling

Quoting autodidact:

ask why its okay to mock Catholic beliefs.

that'd be the first amendment. 

 


autodidact
by Platinum Member on May. 10, 2014 at 4:52 PM
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yes, it is free speech. 

people do mock gays and muslims and minorities, and that's free speech, too. 

opposing gay's civil rights to marry make one a bigot 

if you want to use law to force non-christians to live by christian dogma, that's unconstitutional. 

Quoting jobseeker:

 1st amendment protects ALL forms of free speach, but you would be the first and loudest protester if the ones being mocked was gay, or muslim or a minority.

If I don't want to bake a gay wedding cake, I'm bad

If I want to support traditional marriage, I am a bigot

if I want to promote Chrisitan values, I am narrow minded.

but if I want to mock the Roman Catholic church, it's free speech.

eye rolling

Quoting autodidact:

ask why its okay to mock Catholic beliefs.

that'd be the first amendment. 

 


autodidact
by Platinum Member on May. 10, 2014 at 4:53 PM
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source? details? 

Quoting kailu1835:

Anything truly satanic is dangerous.  Many of the satanic practices are illegal.  Even when operating within the bounds of the law, practices are often unsafe and bordering on demented.


jobseeker
by Bronze Member on May. 10, 2014 at 4:55 PM

 Where in the article, or in my post where there is an allusion to forcing non-christians to live by christian dogma?

Quoting autodidact:

yes, it is free speech. 

people do mock gays and muslims and minorities, and that's free speech, too. 

opposing gay's civil rights to marry make one a bigot 

if you want to use law to force non-christians to live by christian dogma, that's unconstitutional. 

Quoting jobseeker:

 1st amendment protects ALL forms of free speach, but you would be the first and loudest protester if the ones being mocked was gay, or muslim or a minority.

If I don't want to bake a gay wedding cake, I'm bad

If I want to support traditional marriage, I am a bigot

if I want to promote Chrisitan values, I am narrow minded.

but if I want to mock the Roman Catholic church, it's free speech.

eye rolling

Quoting autodidact:

ask why its okay to mock Catholic beliefs.

that'd be the first amendment. 

 

 

randi1978
by Bronze Member on May. 10, 2014 at 5:23 PM
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I assume you're speaking mainly of the crazies who claim they're Satanists who think part of the ceremony includes sacrificing animals and drinking blood or something.

That's not Satanism.  That's just a bunch of nutters.

Quoting kailu1835:

Anything truly satanic is dangerous.  Many of the satanic practices are illegal.  Even when operating within the bounds of the law, practices are often unsafe and bordering on demented.


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