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Posted by on May. 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM
JRM
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http://www.katu.com/news/investigators/Co-owner-of-restaurant-tells-911-not-to-send-police-259620851.html?mobile=y

Co-owner of restaurant tells 911 not to send police

By Joe Douglass, On Your Side Investigator May 16, 2014
SOUTHEAST PORTLAND, Ore. - A business co-owner called 911 about a potentially deadly situation at a restaurant, and told the dispatcher not to send police. It happened at the Red & Black Cafe on Southeast 12th Avenue Thursday afternoon.

Police say John Langley, a co-owner of the restaurant, was standing out on the sidewalk with his arms crossed. They say a man inside was suffering from a heroin overdose.

"We don't allow police in here so we can totally accommodate the fire department and other emergency personnel,” Langley told a 911 dispatcher, “Not police, though."

“I'm required to send everybody," the dispatcher said.

“OK, well, if the police try and come in here,” Langley replied, “There's gonna be another problem."

Langley says he found a man curled up in the bathroom and barely breathing.

"The person was slumped against the wall and I was scared that they were dying or dead maybe,” Langley said.

He says paramedics arrived quickly and went inside to treat the man.

“So the officers talked with medical personnel and said really it's your call,” said Sgt. Pete Simpson, a spokesman for the Portland Police Bureau. “If you want us to come in with you, we will come in."

Simpson says officers were alarmed by the situation.

"It actually generated more of a police response than it normally would have because you know, we're going to an unknown situation with a person potentially overdosing on heroin in a bathroom," Simpson said.

“Definitely the EMTs and the ambulance driver could've handled it,” Langley said. “I kind of feel like I don't know what they were doing there except maybe waiting to see if they could bust the person on something, and I'm not down with that."

The victim was not arrested, nor is he facing any charges. He was taken to the hospital, where he was treated and released.

Simpson says the officers would have been well within their rights to enter the business if necessary.

Langley describes himself as a homeless advocate and anarchist. He has a history of not allowing police into the restaurant. He made headlines back in 2010 for asking an officer to leave after he bought a cup of coffee.
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jllcali
by Jane on May. 18, 2014 at 12:47 PM
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I hope he realizes he can't force the medical personnel to enter without police if they felt unsafe to do so. Obviously the responding EMTs felt safe enough to enter, but the situation was sketchy enough that it's possible EMTs could have felt the scene needed to be cleared by police before they entered. EMTs are not supposed to enter unsafe scenes. They could have refused without police escort. FYI for anyone wanting to refuse police response at a medical situation.

What is this guy going to do if someone robs him? Insurance companies require police reports to pay out.

I would not patronize this establishment. I think it's a dick move to blanket discriminate against people because you don't like their lifestyle or career. I would also be concerned that most people knew he didn't allow police at all and that criminal elements would disproportionately patronize his establishment to take advantage.
JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on May. 18, 2014 at 1:20 PM
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One of the reasons that police respond to these types of calls is because the person can be the VICTIM of a crime. No cop ever goes to these calls wanting to arrest the person having the overdose. Also this dude wouldn't stop me from entering that location when there's a person in danger.

Quoting jllcali: I hope he realizes he can't force the medical personnel to enter without police if they felt unsafe to do so. Obviously the responding EMTs felt safe enough to enter, but the situation was sketchy enough that it's possible EMTs could have felt the scene needed to be cleared by police before they entered. EMTs are not supposed to enter unsafe scenes. They could have refused without police escort. FYI for anyone wanting to refuse police response at a medical situation.

What is this guy going to do if someone robs him? Insurance companies require police reports to pay out.

I would not patronize this establishment. I think it's a dick move to blanket discriminate against people because you don't like their lifestyle or career. I would also be concerned that most people knew he didn't allow police at all and that criminal elements would disproportionately patronize his establishment to take advantage.
jllcali
by Jane on May. 18, 2014 at 2:38 PM
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Most definitely. I think these police officers made a decision that fit this particular instance, probably based on personal experience, as likely the EMTs did as well. The article didn't go into details, but it's possible the police and EMTs knew the person who OD'd as a "regular" and felt it was safe for the police to stay outside (still able to respond if needed) and didn't want the hassle just to say they can enter if they wanted to. I don't know if other cops would have made the same decision in the situation and it's likely entering against the owner's wishes could have been justified.

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA: One of the reasons that police respond to these types of calls is because the person can be the VICTIM of a crime. No cop ever goes to these calls wanting to arrest the person having the overdose. Also this dude wouldn't stop me from entering that location when there's a person in danger.

Quoting jllcali: I hope he realizes he can't force the medical personnel to enter without police if they felt unsafe to do so. Obviously the responding EMTs felt safe enough to enter, but the situation was sketchy enough that it's possible EMTs could have felt the scene needed to be cleared by police before they entered. EMTs are not supposed to enter unsafe scenes. They could have refused without police escort. FYI for anyone wanting to refuse police response at a medical situation.

What is this guy going to do if someone robs him? Insurance companies require police reports to pay out.

I would not patronize this establishment. I think it's a dick move to blanket discriminate against people because you don't like their lifestyle or career. I would also be concerned that most people knew he didn't allow police at all and that criminal elements would disproportionately patronize his establishment to take advantage.
FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on May. 18, 2014 at 3:17 PM
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The police could have entered any time they felt necessary and this man would have just had to deal with it.

I hope he isn't in need of the police one day.

I don't know, I don't really care for people like this that take things to the extreme.  I would not give him my money.  Others, do as you please.

valkay
by on May. 18, 2014 at 3:20 PM
Wonder if someone has him in the corner with a loaded gun to his head he would change his mind..
JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on May. 18, 2014 at 4:11 PM


Quoting valkay: Wonder if someone has him in the corner with a loaded gun to his head he would change his mind..

Perhaps he should "call a crackhead" lol...

....I am only responsible for what I say,NOT for what you understand.....
lga1965
by on May. 18, 2014 at 4:25 PM
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 Okay this is really odd. What is wrong with that man who  won't let police in and even refused to serve a cup of coffee to a policeman??  Wow.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.'

-Dr. Seuss
autodidact
by Platinum Member on May. 18, 2014 at 4:46 PM

he didn't refuse to serve the cop. 

Quoting lga1965:

 Okay this is really odd. What is wrong with that man who  won't let police in and even refused to serve a cup of coffee to a policeman??  Wow.


cfcf
by Member on May. 18, 2014 at 5:13 PM
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I suppose his establishment would be a fairly easy place to rob, lol.

Quoting jllcali: I hope he realizes he can't force the medical personnel to enter without police if they felt unsafe to do so. Obviously the responding EMTs felt safe enough to enter, but the situation was sketchy enough that it's possible EMTs could have felt the scene needed to be cleared by police before they entered. EMTs are not supposed to enter unsafe scenes. They could have refused without police escort. FYI for anyone wanting to refuse police response at a medical situation.

What is this guy going to do if someone robs him? Insurance companies require police reports to pay out.

I would not patronize this establishment. I think it's a dick move to blanket discriminate against people because you don't like their lifestyle or career. I would also be concerned that most people knew he didn't allow police at all and that criminal elements would disproportionately patronize his establishment to take advantage.
ashellbell
by shellbark on May. 18, 2014 at 5:23 PM
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I kind of get where the man is coming from. Mind you, I said kind of. There was a situation that I saw happen that reminds me a lot of this story. There was an overdose and the cops and ambulance showed up, the guy had some of the drug in his pocket, and he was charged with possession. The guy ended up going to jail for 30 days or something. Ended up with a felony on his record. A victimless crime cost him a lot. I get it.
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