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Hawaii jury considers state’s first death penalty case...

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April 24, 2014: This photo shows Tarshia Williams displaying a pendant with her daughter, Talia's face on it outside of a federal courthouse in Honolulu.AP

Jurors in Hawaii are set to begin considering whether a former soldier should be sentenced to death or life in prison for killing his 5-year-old daughter.

Jurors deliberated for about a day before announcing a verdict Friday finding Naeem Williams eligible for the death penalty in the first capital case in the history of Hawaii's statehood.

The jury returns to court on Wednesday to begin hearing testimony about whether he will be sentenced to death or life in prison with no possibility for release.

That phase in the case will include a new round of opening statements and deliberations. The defense is expected to present witnesses testifying about Williams as a person while the prosecution is expected to continue arguing that the crime was especially heinous and deserving of the death penalty.

The same jury last month convicted Williams of murder in his daughter Talia's 2005 beating death. The drawn-out case has gained attention in part because it involves a capital offense in a state that doesn't have the death penalty.

Hawaii's territorial government abolished capital punishment in 1957, before Hawaii became a U.S. state in 1959. But Williams was tried in the federal system — which allows for the death penalty — because the crime occurred on military property.

Lawyers for both the prosecution and defense declined comment Friday after the jury's eligibility decision was read.

Williams' defense team argued he was not eligible for a death sentence because of his low IQ. Mental health experts testified about intellectual impairments and low test scores.

The prosecution contended factors such as Talia's age and vulnerability made the killing so heinous that the death penalty was warranted.

Jurors decided Williams met all key conditions to be eligible for the death penalty: He was an adult; his actions were intentional that resulted in the girl's death; and the crime was especially heinous and the victim was vulnerable because of her youth.

One juror appeared to cry as jurors were polled.

Williams and Talia's stepmother, Delilah Williams, testified during the guilt phase of the trial that they beat her almost daily with hands and belts during the seven months she lived with them in Hawaii.

Naeem Williams blamed the beatings on the child's bowel- and bladder-control issues, coupled with frustrations he faced in his marriage.

His wife, Delilah, testified against him as part of a deal with prosecutors for a 20-year sentence. She provided graphic and disturbing details of abuse that included withholding food from the girl for days at a time, beatings while the child was duct-taped to a bed, pulling her so hard by the hair that she was left with a bald spot, and stomping on her until bone cracked.

The couple eventually took the kindergartner out of school so that others wouldn't see the signs of abuse on Talia's body.

Prosecutors say she died on July 16, 2005, after her father dealt a blow so hard it left knuckle imprints on her chest. Naeem Williams said he beat the girl that day partly because of toothpaste she spit onto the bathroom sink.

The resolution of the case also paves the way for Delilah Williams' sentence. Her public defender, Alexander Silvert, requested that she be immediately sentenced and moved to a mainland prison after she testified, satisfying terms of her plea deal.

But U.S. District Judge J. Michael Seabright ruled that Delilah Williams must wait until jurors in Naeem Williams' trial have been dismissed before she can be sentenced.

by on May. 24, 2014 at 11:20 AM
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Healthystart30
by Silver Member on May. 25, 2014 at 5:49 AM
Quoting PinkButterfly66:

They did.  They failed to act.  Talia's mom just got the go ahead from a judge to sue the Army.  Talia's murders lived on the army base.  An major general reported in the file of her death that there were repeated missed opportunities to save her.  Meaning people suspected but looked the other way.  I hope the jury awards her mom so much damn money that the US Army has to shut the base down to pay her.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/judge-rules-mom-sue-army-childs-beating-death/story?id=10362173&singlePage=true

Quoting Healthystart30:
Quoting dawnie1:

IMO- there should NOT  be a trial for either one of these p.o.s. Take them out back and shoot them. Done & done.



Thankfully that's not how our justice system works!

I am against the death penalty, in my opinion it's to kind for disgusting people like these two! Lock them up in with the general population and throw in some isolation for good measure!

Reading what they did to this poor girl is heartbreaking! I can't believe nobody saw anything!



That made me tear up! Poor girl!
jcrew6
by Platinum Member on May. 25, 2014 at 7:52 AM

I totally understand.  And I think it is OK to feel that way about these type of horrible people.  We don't need them in our society.  We don't need them in our jails.  They do not deserve the beneifts of one day in jail when there is a child murdered

Quoting dawnie1:

I do understand that and also appreciate our justice system. I was talking from an emotional point of view. I have a tendency to do that. I need to work on that. Still.....p.o.s.'s.....

Quoting jcrew6:

While I agree~ we do have a jutice system for a reason.  ANd I do appreciate our justice system.  But they are disgusting scum and don't deserve to breathe another day.

Quoting dawnie1:

IMO- there should NOT  be a trial for either one of these p.o.s. Take them out back and shoot them. Done & done.


Aslen
by Silver Member on May. 25, 2014 at 7:56 AM

BUt where was her mama?

jcrew6
by Platinum Member on May. 25, 2014 at 8:10 AM

"Talia's parents were never married and did not have a relationship beyond the union that produced the child. Though she was raised by Tarshia Williams for most of her short life, she was moved to Hawaii after a South Carolina judge awarded custody to Naeem and Deliliah Williams amid allegations that Talia had been found malnourished in her mother's care.

Davis, who did not handle Tarshia's custody case, said the allegations stemmed from her life as a lesbian and that the girl was later found to have a growth disorder.

She lived with the couple in Hawaii for just seven months before she was murdered."

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/judge-rules-mom-sue-army-childs-beating-death/story?id=10362173&page=2

Quoting Aslen:

BUt where was her mama?


Aslen
by Silver Member on May. 25, 2014 at 8:19 AM

Whoever awarded custody to him ought to be out on tial too.... that poor baby!

Quoting jcrew6:

"Talia's parents were never married and did not have a relationship beyond the union that produced the child. Though she was raised by Tarshia Williams for most of her short life, she was moved to Hawaii after a South Carolina judge awarded custody to Naeem and Deliliah Williams amid allegations that Talia had been found malnourished in her mother's care.

Davis, who did not handle Tarshia's custody case, said the allegations stemmed from her life as a lesbian and that the girl was later found to have a growth disorder.

She lived with the couple in Hawaii for just seven months before she was murdered."

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/judge-rules-mom-sue-army-childs-beating-death/story?id=10362173&page=2

Quoting Aslen:

BUt where was her mama?


Healthystart30
by Silver Member on May. 25, 2014 at 8:22 AM
Quoting jcrew6:

I totally understand.  And I think it is OK to feel that way about these type of horrible people.  We don't need them in our society.  We don't need them in our jails.  They do not deserve the beneifts of one day in jail when there is a child murdered

Quoting dawnie1:

I do understand that and also appreciate our justice system. I was talking from an emotional point of view. I have a tendency to do that. I need to work on that. Still.....p.o.s.'s.....

Quoting jcrew6:

While I agree~ we do have a jutice system for a reason.  ANd I do appreciate our justice system.  But they are disgusting scum and don't deserve to breathe another day.

Quoting dawnie1:

IMO- there should NOT  be a trial for either one of these p.o.s. Take them out back and shoot them. Done & done.



With the way our justice system works, he will be on death row away from other inmates for years! Instead of putting him in the general population where he will get what he deserves for being a baby killer. This will end him up in isolation to keep him "safe" which is torture for most people. How exactly is it better to kill him? Are you a Christian? I know that seems irrelevant but I migh understand your reasoning better if you believe that he will burn in a fiery hell. I believe that when he's dead he's dead and will never have to pay for what he did for another day.
jcrew6
by Platinum Member on May. 25, 2014 at 8:24 AM

Agree.  But if the child was considered "malnourished" under the mother's care. Is there a child protection agenecy in South Carolina re examining their facts and what led to the decision.   You have to wonder about this poor child's entire life.  Even before she went to live with her dad.

Quoting Aslen:

Whoever awarded custody to him ought to be out on tial too.... that poor baby!

Quoting jcrew6:

"Talia's parents were never married and did not have a relationship beyond the union that produced the child. Though she was raised by Tarshia Williams for most of her short life, she was moved to Hawaii after a South Carolina judge awarded custody to Naeem and Deliliah Williams amid allegations that Talia had been found malnourished in her mother's care.

Davis, who did not handle Tarshia's custody case, said the allegations stemmed from her life as a lesbian and that the girl was later found to have a growth disorder.

She lived with the couple in Hawaii for just seven months before she was murdered."

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/judge-rules-mom-sue-army-childs-beating-death/story?id=10362173&page=2

Quoting Aslen:

BUt where was her mama?



buckeyefever
by on May. 25, 2014 at 8:38 AM

Waste of air. I agree with the others it would be nice if they fried them.

jcrew6
by Platinum Member on May. 25, 2014 at 8:40 AM

I support retributive punishment. The punishment should fit the crime. In Hawaii, criminals serving life terms without parole have been awarded reduced sentences, pardoned, etc. for displaying excellent character, respectfulness, and for being "hard workers".  After 20 years of being behind bars for a "life without parole" sentence, Hawaii automatically gives the inmate a hearing for Commutations.  Murders have been pardoned/awarded commutations by the Gov. in the past.  I don't think this guy deserves even the thought of this benefit. 

Quoting Healthystart30:
Quoting jcrew6:

I totally understand.  And I think it is OK to feel that way about these type of horrible people.  We don't need them in our society.  We don't need them in our jails.  They do not deserve the beneifts of one day in jail when there is a child murdered

Quoting dawnie1:

I do understand that and also appreciate our justice system. I was talking from an emotional point of view. I have a tendency to do that. I need to work on that. Still.....p.o.s.'s.....

Quoting jcrew6:

While I agree~ we do have a jutice system for a reason.  ANd I do appreciate our justice system.  But they are disgusting scum and don't deserve to breathe another day.

Quoting dawnie1:

IMO- there should NOT  be a trial for either one of these p.o.s. Take them out back and shoot them. Done & done.

With the way our justice system works, he will be on death row away from other inmates for years! Instead of putting him in the general population where he will get what he deserves for being a baby killer. This will end him up in isolation to keep him "safe" which is torture for most people. How exactly is it better to kill him? Are you a Christian? I know that seems irrelevant but I migh understand your reasoning better if you believe that he will burn in a fiery hell. I believe that when he's dead he's dead and will never have to pay for what he did for another day.


kam0011
by Member on May. 25, 2014 at 8:48 AM
This child was failed by everyone. This is so sad. He deserves to die.
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