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Posted by on Jun. 18, 2014 at 9:42 AM
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How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


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4evrinbluejeans
by KK on Jun. 18, 2014 at 9:44 AM

the type of weapons they have access to and the way our society gets their news.  IMO, these things appear to be happening more because there are more hours to fill in a news day.  In reality the number of kids that are commiting these horrible crimes is significantly less than 1%.  


survivorinohio
by René on Jun. 18, 2014 at 9:49 AM

You dont believe the frequency of these attacks has increased?  

We have had national new outlets for more than a century and these kind of events have always been newsworthy some cases prior to the news era even became legendary.  Acts of violence by kids has always been newsworthy because its scary. Its just the kind of stuff people talk about.

Quoting 4evrinbluejeans:

the type of weapons they have access to and the way our society gets their news.  IMO, these things appear to be happening more because there are more hours to fill in a news day.  In reality the number of kids that are commiting these horrible crimes is significantly less than 1%.  


How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


snookyfritz
by Platinum Member on Jun. 18, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Our parents didn't trot around with their guns on their backs for a trip to the grocery store.  

Another aspect is piss-poor parenting or absent parenting.  Kids being left to fend for themselves without constant adult input as to appropriate ways to channel anger.

Kids being over diaqgnosed; leaving parents with a sense that they medicate them and that's all that needs to happen.  

Parents being worn out from havving to work such long hours.  

4evrinbluejeans
by KK on Jun. 18, 2014 at 9:54 AM

no, I don't.  While we have always had national news outlets their window for providing news was limited and as a result decisions had to be made on what they (anchors & editors) believed the public most needed to know during that window of time.  

Now that the business of news runs 24/7 there is far more time and space that needs to be filled.  

Less than 1% of student homicides take place at school, while walking to and from and at school sponsored events.   


http://nces.ed.gov/programs/crimeindicators/crimeindicators2011/tables/table_01_1.asp

Quoting survivorinohio:

You dont believe the frequency of these attacks has increased?  

We have had national new outlets for more than a century and these kind of events have always been newsworthy some cases prior to the news era even became legendary.  Acts of violence by kids has always been newsworthy because its scary. Its just the kind of stuff people talk about.

Quoting 4evrinbluejeans:

the type of weapons they have access to and the way our society gets their news.  IMO, these things appear to be happening more because there are more hours to fill in a news day.  In reality the number of kids that are commiting these horrible crimes is significantly less than 1%.  


VooDooB
by weird cheese on Jun. 18, 2014 at 9:54 AM
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I think a big part of it is the way kids being raised changed in the last 20 years. We have no losers anymore. You get a trophy for showing up. There are no tryouts anymore. Everybody gets to play. That makes for a very entitled couple generations who flip a switch when they get to highschool and everything isn't handed to them on a silver platter anymore. 

survivorinohio
by René on Jun. 18, 2014 at 10:15 AM

If you look at these lists it shows that the attacks in the last 200 yrs have been consistantly more frequent with every decade.  It definitely shows a sharp increase from 2010 till now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


4evrinbluejeans
by KK on Jun. 18, 2014 at 10:23 AM

the number of people within the country as well as the number of schools have also increased.  While I do believe we have created a generation of poorly socialized children, I don't think they are necessarily "more violent" their method of violence has changed.   

Quoting survivorinohio:

If you look at these lists it shows that the attacks in the last 200 yrs have been consistantly more frequent with every decade.  It definitely shows a sharp increase from 2010 till now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States


EireLass
by Ruby Member on Jun. 18, 2014 at 10:24 AM
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My father kept all his guns in the hall closet and his ammo on the shelf above. We had 8 kids in our family, and then cousins and friends coming and going. The fear of the parents if we touched them was greater than the fear of what a gun could do. 

survivorinohio
by René on Jun. 18, 2014 at 10:34 AM

Yes, growing up there were many households where guns were accessible, even standing in the corner in the kitchen fully loaded if needed to ward off deer and bear.

Quoting EireLass:

My father kept all his guns in the hall closet and his ammo on the shelf above. We had 8 kids in our family, and then cousins and friends coming and going. The fear of the parents if we touched them was greater than the fear of what a gun could do. 


How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


Stephanie329
by Platinum Member on Jun. 18, 2014 at 10:36 AM
Same here.

Quoting EireLass:

My father kept all his guns in the hall closet and his ammo on the shelf above. We had 8 kids in our family, and then cousins and friends coming and going. The fear of the parents if we touched them was greater than the fear of what a gun could do. 

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