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ISIS captures Iraq WMD (update pg 7)

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What.....what!?!?!?

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VooDooB
by weird cheese on Jun. 20, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Sunni Extremists in Iraq Occupy Hussein's Chemical Weapons Facility


Washington—Sunni extremists in Iraq have occupied what was once Saddam Hussein's premier chemical-weapons production facility, a complex that still contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department and other U.S. government officials said.

U.S. officials don't believe the Sunni militants will be able to create a functional chemical weapon from the material. The weapons stockpiled at the Al Muthanna complex are old, contaminated and hard to move, officials said.

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Nonetheless, the capture of the chemical-weapon stockpile by the forces of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, known as ISIS or ISIL, the militant group that is seizing territory in the country, has grabbed the attention of the U.S.

"We remain concerned about the seizure of any military site by the ISIL," Jen Psaki, the State Department spokeswoman, said in a written statement. "We do not believe that the complex contains CW materials of military value and it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to safely move the materials."

The takeover underscores the chaos gripping Iraq and the possibility that the growing Sunni rebellion could further destabilize the Middle East. Not lost on U.S. government and military officials is the irony that the latest chapter in a war designed to strip Iraq of chemical weapons could see radical Sunni extremists take control of that same stockpile.

The rise of ISIS has reignited the debate about the 2003 invasion of Iraq by the Bush administration and the 2011 decision by the Obama administration to withdraw remaining military forces from the country. The takeover of a chemical weapons stockpile—even if the weapons are useless—seems likely to further intensify those debates.

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During the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s, Hussein used the Muthanna complex to make chemical weapons, including sarin, mustard gas, and VX (a nerve agent), according the Iraq Study Group, which conducted the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in the aftermath of the war.

The Iraq Study group did find chemical munitions at Muthanna but determined that inspections by United Nations Special Commission, or Unscom, had ensured the facility was dismantled and remaining chemical stocks militarily useless and sealed in bunkers.

"Two wars, sanctions and Unscom oversight reduced Iraqi's premier production facility to a stockpile of old damaged and contaminated chemical munitions (sealed in bunkers), a wasteland full of destroyed chemical munitions, razed structures, and unusable war-ravaged facilities," the Iraq Study Group's 2004 report concluded.

The Muthanna complex is near Lake Tharthar, roughly 45 miles northwest of Baghdad, an area now firmly in control of the Sunni rebels. ISIS has taken control of most of Anbar province as well as Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city.

Military officials said the U.S. was well aware of the Muthanna stockpile and wouldn't have left it there if it posed a military threat. Still, when the U.S. pulled out of Iraq, it didn't anticipate a large swath of the country, including numerous military bases, would be overrun by radical Sunni militants. One defense official said that if the U.S. had known the Iraqi government would lose control so soon, it might not have left the old chemical weapons in place.

U.S. officials repeatedly emphasized the takeover of the chemical weapons stocks didn't constitute a significant military gain by ISIS. The group, multiple officials said, would find the weapons militarily useless even if they were to get access to the sealed bunkers where they are stored. Officials said the group hasn't yet gained access to those bunkers.

"The only people who would likely be harmed by these chemical materials would be the people who tried to use or move them," said a military official.

ISIS military gains have been aided by other Sunni groups including Baathists and other former loyalists to Hussein. Officers in Hussein's army have also taken leadership roles in the rebellion. Some of those men may have some working knowledge of the use of chemical weapons from the Iran-Iraq war.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/sunni-extremists-in-iraq-occupy-saddams-chemical-weapons-facility-1403190600


VooDooB
by weird cheese on Jun. 20, 2014 at 9:49 AM

ISIS SCORES BIG WITH IRAQI WMDS

WASHINGTON – The terrorists running amok in Iraq – members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Sham – may have access to a secret sarin poison gas production facility in northeast Iraq as a result of a new alliance with a top military commander who previously was an aide to executed Sunni Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, WND has learned.

And they also may be working with a man who’s known for his expertise in making sarin, a manmade toxin that was developed in Germany and can, according to the Centers for Disease Control, produce loss of consciousness, convulsions, paralysis and death in victims who are exposed.

The revelations comes as the State Department acknowledged that ISIS has captured a stockpile of old chemical weapons at the Al Muthanna chemical weapons production complex as its fighters sweep through Iraq’s Sunni- controlled region.

The access to a sarin poison gas production facility, and the man with the expertise to operate it, is the result of a new alliance between the brutal jihadist fighters and Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, who was a top military commander and vice president to the deposed Saddam Hussein.

According to sources, Douri heads the Naqshbani Army, which is a coalition of Sunni groups in Mosul, a city which recently was overrun by ISIS. The sources added that representatives of Douri recently met with ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

ISIS has swept through Iraq toward Baghdad, which is being defended by troops of the government of Shiite Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, in recent days. The coalition of terrorists has included Sunni jihadist groups, and now apparently members of the Naqshbandi Army after an alliance, sources said.

The Naqshbandi Army is a resistance group of underground Baathists and Islamist militant insurgency groups in Iraq. It emerged in December 2006 following the execution of Hussein.

Douri’s alliance gives ISIS’ Baghdadi access to a facility that produces sarin nerve gas under the direction of former Iraqi Military Industries Brig. Gen. Adnan al-Dulaimi.

Al-Douri

Al-Douri

Dulaimi was a major player in Saddam’s chemical weapons production projects. He has been working in the Sunni-controlled region of northwestern Iraq where the outlawed Baath party is located and produces the sarin.

A WND request to the State Department for a response to the revelation that ISIS may already have access to a working sarin poison gas production facility as a result of the Douri alliance with ISIS went unanswered.

Similarly, the State Department did not respond to a WND inquiry as to why old chemical weapons stockpiles at the Al-Muthana chemical complex were never destroyed before U.S. troops left Iraq in December 2011.

The Iraqi production of poison sarin nerve gas recently was confirmed in a classified document from the U.S. intelligence community’s National Ground Intelligence Center, or NGIC.

The document was classified Secret/Noforn – “Not for foreign distribution.”

The document revealed that “AQI” had produced a “bench-scale” form of sarin in Iraq and had transferred it to Turkey.

AQI, or al-Qaida in Iraq, was the precursor to the al-Qaida splinter group ISIS, which Baghdadi created after he moved his fighters last year into Syria on the side of the Syrian opposition.

Sarin thought to be intended for use in Syria

Sarin thought to be intended for use in Syria

However, Baghdadi and his ISIS jihadist fighters quickly fell out of favor with al-Qaida leader Ayman al-Zawahiri after Baghdadi sought to include another al-Qaida group, the Jabhat al-Nusra, in ISIS.

The al-Nusra leadership opposed the merger and fighting ensued between ISIS and al-Nusra, leading Zawahiri to publicly disown ISIS as part of the al-Qaida organization.

A U.S. military source told WND that there were a number of interrogations as well as some clan reports as part of what the NGIC document said were “50 general indicators to monitor progress and characterize the state of the ANF/AQI-associated sarin chemical warfare agent developing effort.”

In May 2013, some of the sarin transferred to Turkey for al-Nusra’s use was intercepted and fighters in Turkey were arrested.

According to published reports, the sarin coming from Iraq but transported to Turkey allegedly was used in an attack on the Syrian city of Aleppo in March 2013 by Saudi Arabian-backed al-Nusra in its effort to overthrow the government of the Shiite-Alawite Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad.

The document further revealed that sarin production had been under way for more than a year.

“Future reporting of indicators not previously observed would suggest that the effort continues to advance despite the arrests,” the NGIC document said.

In acknowledging to the Wall Street Journal that ISIS had taken over the Al-Muthanna chemical weapons, the State Department quickly attempted to minimize the seizure by saying that ISIS wouldn’t be able to make use of the materials because it was too old, contaminated and difficult to move.

“We do not believe the complex contains CW (chemical weapons) materials of military value and it would be difficult, if not impossible, to safely move the materials,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki told the WSJ.

“The majority of the Al-Muthanna complex was bombed during Desert Storm, completely incapacitating Iraq’s chemical weapon production capabilities,” according to a 2004 Central Intelligence Agency report. “However, large stockpiles of chemical weapons and bulk agent survived.”

Most of these munitions were later destroyed under supervision of the United Nations. Some of the partially destroyed materials were sealed in two bunkers at Al-Muthanna.

U.S. military officials say they never would have left chemical material after the 2011 pullout if it posed a security threat.

“The only people who would likely be harmed by these chemical materials would be the people who tried to use or move them,” a military spokesman said.

However, ISIS’ access to a sarin poison gas production facility operated by former members of Saddam Hussein’s military may be another story.

Sarin actually was used in terror attacks in Japan in 1994 and 1995.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/isis-scores-big-with-iraqi-wmds/#fSUugkgAPUdUHVOR.99

VooDooB
by weird cheese on Jun. 20, 2014 at 9:50 AM
ISIS TERRORISTS SEIZE SADDAM HUSSEIN'S CHEMICAL WEAPONS (WMD's), INCLUDNG MUSTARD GAS, SARIN & VX- I THOUGHT THEY DIDN'T EXIST?
06-19-2014 11:38 pm - Jim Hoft - Gateway Pundit
ISIS terrorists have seized Saddam Hussein’s chemical weapons stockpile at the Al Muthanna facility. The weapons include: mustard gas, Sarin, Tabun and VX.

Chemical weapons produced at the Al Muthanna facility, which Isis today seized, are believed to have included mustard gas, Sarin, Tabun, and VX.

Stockpiles of chemical munitions are still stored there. The most dangerous ones have been declared to the UN and are sealed in bunkers. Although declared, the bunkers contents have yet to be confirmed.

These areas of the compound pose a hazard to civilians and potential blackmarketers.

Numerous bunkers, including eleven cruciform shaped bunkers were exploited. Some of the bunkers were empty. Some of the bunkers contained large quantities of unfilled chemical munitions, conventional munitions, one-ton shipping containers, old disabled production equipment (presumed disabled under UNSCOM supervision), and other hazardous industrial chemicals.

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SOURCE: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/breaking-isis-terrorists-seize-saddam-husseins-chemical-weapons/

- See more at: http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_310_35711.php#sthash.3et6bJFC.dpuf

VooDooB
by weird cheese on Jun. 20, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Saddam era WMDs captured in Iraq by ISIS

 

The British newspaper, The Telegraphreported this stunning little nugget yesterday, on June 19th:

Chemical weapons produced at the Al Muthanna facility, which Isis today seized, are believed to have included mustard gas, Sarin, Tabun, and VX.

Wait......WHAT?

I thought there were no WMD's in Iraq, of any kind?  Whatsoever!

I think that, because for the past eleven years, I've had to hear it every single time I've watched a leftist/liberal/progressive/Democratic television station or show; read a blog, read a newspaper, read a book, read a magazine, had a discussion with someone, etc.

I've had it pounded into my brain relentlessly, the same litany of moonbat talking points:  No WMD's in Iraq, hence the war was started under "false pretenses"; Bush lied; intel was cherry-picked; it was an illegal war; Bush is a War Criminal, no WMD's whatsoever...ad nauseum!

None.  No room for equivocation, there were no WMD's, of any kind.

Of course, we know that's a lie, but it's now become leftist/liberal/progressive/ Democratic "fact", actually settled "history" to paraphrase the left's new meme, that none ever existed.

And now we find out, that there was in fact an entire Saddam WMD complex, seized now by the ISIS that was known about, with bunkers full of deadly WMD's/Chemical weapons, and it's been sitting there all along.

Its history is so well known, that none other than the CIA keeps an updated page on the site, describing it down to the smallest detail.

Yes, the facility is "old." Yes, the facility has been known about since the 1980's. Yes, the WMD's seized by ISIS aren't thought to be safe to be moved, or are even viable. Yes, the WMD's in question were supposed to be in sealed bunkers, and last sighted by UN Weapons inspectors in the 1990's.


But WMD's in Iraq; the ones that don't, or never existed?  Amazing, just amazing!  The fact that they were still there, in 2014, just waiting for ISIS to come along and seize them, makes me wonder what the hell the US Military was doing from 2003 - 2009?  With all the resources we had in country, with all the US Dollars wasted in that country, we couldn't decontaminate that site, and incinerate them to insure that they never fell into the wrong hands?  I thought that was the reason we went there to begin with?


Maybe the US Military couldn't find them?  And the leftists deny they ever existed.  But, ISIS knew they existed, and they sure knew where to find them, and now they have them. 

Whether they're still fully potent and viable is not the issue; what is the issue is that they are still dangerous and deadly..... to someone.

And ISIS has them.

Hooray


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/saddam_era_wmds_captured_in_iraq_by_isiswaitwhat.html


VooDooB
by weird cheese on Jun. 20, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Donna did you dirty delete something here?


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by Platinum Member on Jun. 20, 2014 at 9:58 AM
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I wonder if people realize that out policy right now is; if one is fighting in Iraq he'll be a target for a drone attack, but if survive that attack and makes it over to the Syrian border, the CIA will give him weapons.
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by Platinum Member on Jun. 20, 2014 at 9:59 AM
Yeah, I just realized that I wrote something in Spanish

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by weird cheese on Jun. 20, 2014 at 10:00 AM

LOL!

Quoting Donna6503: Yeah, I just realized that I wrote something in Spanish
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numbr1wmn
by Gold Member on Jun. 20, 2014 at 10:03 AM
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OH NO THEY DON"T HAVE WMD!!!! LMFAO what fools libs are!!!

VooDooB
by weird cheese on Jun. 20, 2014 at 10:39 AM
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So now what? Isis has WMD. Does this change things for US going in?

Quoting numbr1wmn:

OH NO THEY DON"T HAVE WMD!!!! LMFAO what fools libs are!!!


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