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Israel accepts an Egyptian-proposed Gaza cease-fire; Hamas keeps firing. Hamas deliberately aims rockets at civilians; Israel painstakingly tries to avoid them, actually telephoning civilians in the area and dropping warning charges, so-called roof knocking.

“Here’s the difference between us,” explains the Israeli prime minister. “We’re using missile defense to protect our civilians, and they’re using their civilians to protect their missiles.”

Charles Krauthammer writes a weekly political column that runs on Fridays. View Archive

Rarely does international politics present a moment of such moral clarity. Yet we routinely hear this Israel-Gaza fighting described as a morally equivalent “cycle of violence.” This is absurd. What possible interest can Israel have in cross-border fighting? Everyone knows Hamas set off this mini-war. And everyone knows the proudly self-declared raison d’etre of Hamas: the eradication of Israel and its Jews.

Apologists for Hamas attribute the blood lust to the Israeli occupation and blockade. Occupation? Does no one remember anything? It was less than 10 years ago that worldwide television showed the Israeli army pulling die-hard settlers off synagogue roofs in Gaza as Israel uprooted its settlements, expelled its citizens, withdrew its military and turned every inch of Gaza over to the Palestinians. There was not a soldier, not a settler, not a single Israeli left in Gaza.

And there was no blockade. On the contrary. Israel wanted this new Palestinian state to succeed. To help the Gaza economy, Israel gave the Palestinians its 3,000 greenhouses that had produced fruit and flowers for export. It opened border crossings and encouraged commerce.


The Israel Defense Forces released a video on Thursday that they claim shows a tunnel that Hamas militants planned to use to attack Israel. (YouTube/The Israel Defense Forces)

The whole idea was to establish the model for two states living peacefully and productively side by side. No one seems to remember that, simultaneous with the Gaza withdrawal, Israel dismantled four smaller settlements in the northern West Bank as a clear signal of Israel’s desire to leave the West Bank as well and thus achieve an amicable two-state solution.

This is not ancient history. This was nine years ago.

And how did the Gaza Palestinians react to being granted by the Israelis what no previous ruler, neither Egyptian, nor British, nor Turkish, had ever given them — an independent territory? First, they demolished the greenhouses. Then they elected Hamas. Then, instead of building a state with its attendant political and economic institutions, they spent the better part of a decade turning Gaza into a massive military base, brimming with terror weapons, to make ceaseless war on Israel.

Where are the roads and rail, the industry and infrastructure of the new Palestinian state? Nowhere. Instead, they built mile upon mile of underground tunnels to hide their weapons and, when the going gets tough, their military commanders. They spent millions importing and producing rockets, launchers, mortars, small arms, even drones. They deliberately placed them in schools, hospitals, mosques and private homes to better expose their own civilians. (Just Thursday, the U.N. announced that it found 20 rockets in a Gaza school.) And from which they fire rockets at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.

Why? The rockets can’t even inflict serious damage, being almost uniformly intercepted by Israel’s Iron Dome anti-missile system. Even West Bank leader Mahmoud Abbas has asked: “What are you trying to achieve by sending rockets?”

It makes no sense. Unless you understand, as Tuesday’s Post editorial explained, that the whole point is to draw Israeli counterfire.

This produces dead Palestinians for international television. Which is why Hamas perversely urges its own people not to seek safety when Israel drops leaflets warning of an imminent attack.

To deliberately wage war so that your own people can be telegenically killed is indeed moral and tactical insanity. But it rests on a very rational premise: Given the Orwellian state of the world’s treatment of Israel (see: the U.N.’s grotesque Human Rights Council), fueled by a mix of classic anti-Semitism, near-total historical ignorance and reflexive sympathy for the ostensible Third World underdog, these eruptions featuring Palestinian casualties ultimately undermine support for Israel’s legitimacy and right to self-defense.

In a world of such Kafkaesque ethical inversions, the depravity of Hamas begins to make sense. This is a world in which the Munich massacre is a movie and the murder of Klinghoffer is an opera — both deeply sympathetic to the killers. This is a world in which the U.N. ignores humanity’s worst war criminals while incessantly condemning Israel, a state warred upon for 66 years that nonetheless goes to extraordinary lengths to avoid harming the very innocents its enemies use as shields.

It’s to the Israelis’ credit that amid all this madness they haven’t lost their moral scruples. Or their nerve. Those outside the region have the minimum obligation, therefore, to expose the madness and speak the truth. Rarely has it been so blindingly clear.


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by on Jul. 18, 2014 at 9:13 PM
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Della529
by Matlock on Jul. 19, 2014 at 5:35 AM
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And for him to ask what Israel could possibly want in cross border fighting?

The freeking land, idiot!

Settlements in the West Bank have increased since the removal of those years back.

G-d how some are willing to believe the BS written by this fool.
snookyfritz
by Platinum Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 8:13 AM
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Oh, I get it.  The Palestinians are lobbing rockets just so Israel with bomb them within an inch of their lives.  

Makes perfect sense.  

I wish the people on the right would stop trying to dehumanize Palestinians or try to make us believe that they have no regard for their own lives.  It's not true.  

Donna6503
by Platinum Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 8:43 AM
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Palestinians' anger is purely self-induced; they're the ones greatly responsible for their self-destructived behavior. They're the ones who had rejected UN's plan to live in peace (many times over, we should add)

They're the ones that have sided with the many Arab nations that declared war against Israel, each and every time. Just remember; those Arabs that chosen to live in Israel and are actual citizens of Israel, aren't considered "Palestinians." Why is that, how come Arabs living in Israel developed a different genetic make-up that separates them from the other Arabs that have Jordan or Egypt's citizenship where they are magically placed in a group classified, "Palestinians"?

Quoting idunno1234:

 I simply prefaced my post saying here's a different perspective.  I did not assign innocence to the Palestinians.  However, I am beyond sick of people forgetting where their anger comes from.  On another thread I posted how many hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were displaced by the formation of Israel.  Do any of you who accept the bs of this pure propaganda of the OP think at all about the root of their anger? 


Quoting LoveMyBoyK: Yes, Israel has better weapons. So more people are killed. One side of a battle beingstronger and more capable in no way negates the culpability of, and death toll racked up by, the other. Palestine is NOT innocent in the conflict.
Quoting idunno1234:

A different perspective:


http://www.ifamericansknew.org/


The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the world’s major sources of instability. Americans are directly connected to this conflict, and increasingly imperiled by its devastation.


It is the goal of If Americans Knew to provide full and accurate information on this critical issue, and on our power – and duty – to bring a resolution.


Please click on any statistic for the source and more information.
Statistics last updated: July 17, 2014

 









Israeli and Palestinian Children KilledSeptember 29, 2000 - Present


131 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,581 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information)

Chart showing that approximately 12 times more Palestinian children have been killed than Israeli children








Israelis and Palestinians KilledSeptember 29, 2000 - Present

Chart showing that 6 times more Palestinians have been killed than Israelis.

1,111 Israelis and at least 7,149 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information)









Israelis and Palestinians InjuredSeptember 29, 2000 - Present


8,550 Israelis and 58,105 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information.)

Chart showing that Palestinians are injured at least six times more often than Israelis.








Daily U.S. Military Aid to Israel and the PalestiniansFiscal Year 2013

Chart showing that the United States gives Israel $8.2 million per day in military aid and no military aid to the Palestinians.

During Fiscal Year 2013, the U.S. is providing Israel with at least $8.5 million per day in military aid and $0 in military aid to the Palestinians. (View Sources & More Information)









UN Resolutions Targeting Israel and the Palestinians1955 - 1992


Israel has been targeted by at least 77 UN resolutions and the Palestinians have been targeted by 1. (View Sources & More Information)

Chart showing that Israel has been targeted by 77 UN resolutions, while the Palestinians have been targeted by 1.








Current Number of Political Prisoners and Detainees

Chart showing that Israel is holding 5,271 Palestinians prisoner.

0 Israelis are possibly being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 6,000 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel. (View Sources & More Information)









Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes1967 - Present


0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and at least 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967. (View Sources & More Information)

Chart showing that more than 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished, compared to no Israeli homes.








Israeli and Palestinian Unemployment Rates

Chart depicting the fact that the Palestinian unemployment is around 4 times the Israeli unemployment rate.

The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment in the West Bank is 22.5% and 27.9% in Gaza. (View Sources & More Information)









Current Illegal Settlements on the Other’s Land


Israel currently has 262 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. (View Sources & More Information)

Chart showing that Israel has 227 Jewish-only settlements on Palestinian land.






 

stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 8:47 AM
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Pretty fucking ballsy to use the word moral in relation to these actions. How sick.
Donna6503
by Platinum Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 9:18 AM
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Stacy, can you name one moral act that the Palestinians (as a group) have committed in the past 80 or so years?

What's sad, is that there isn't an ounce of moral ground that the Palestinians can remotely lay claim ... what's sick, is that there are people out there that believe saying, "Zion" is a sort of "Hail Mary" for evil behavior.

Quoting stacymomof2: Pretty fucking ballsy to use the word moral in relation to these actions. How sick.
Donna6503
by Platinum Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:04 AM
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Actually, Israel went 18 months without a single building going up in any of the disputed area ... nothing in the west bank for a year and a half. They did it just so they we would have reopened talks with the PA. Yet, the PA absolutely refused to talk (instead they preferred forming a new government with Hamas)

So now that this 18 months period is over, the PA is willing to talk. Sorry, the Palestinians don't have a moral leg to stand on, in any "way, shape, or form."

Quoting Della529: And for him to ask what Israel could possibly want in cross border fighting?

The freeking land, idiot!

Settlements in the West Bank have increased since the removal of those years back.

G-d how some are willing to believe the BS written by this fool.
angelaicky
by Bronze Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:08 AM

The flags are dramatic and good try.  But the facts are this: 138 countries supported Palestine at GA/11317.  Canada was one of only 9 that voted against. Your turn


Quoting Carpy:


While the Obama administration has urged Israel to limit the scope of its ground operation in Gaza to only striking tunnels used by terrorists, Canada’s Conservative Party-led government has expressed unbridled support for Israel as it faces Hamas’ threats.

The contrasting approaches over the past 10 days of the Israel-Hamas conflict have been seen in a series of statements, diplomatic exchanges and tweets.

This image appears on the Conservative Party's website, calling on Canadians to

This image appeared on the Conservative Party of Canada’s website, calling on Canadians to “stand with Israel.”

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu after Israel sent ground troops into Gaza Thursday to expand the Jewish state’s effort to combat the firing of Hamas and other terrorist group rockets at Israeli communities.

Kerry reaffirmed the U.S.’ “strong support for Israel’s right to defend itself against terrorist threats emanating from tunnels into Israel and expressed our view that this should be a precise operation to target tunnels, as described in a statement from the Israeli Defense Forces,” the State Department said.

Kerry also “emphasized the need to avoid further escalation” and “the importance of doing everything possible to prevent civilian casualties.”

Kerry’s words of caution stood in contrast to a stream of 10 uncompromisingly pro-Israel tweets Friday morning from Canada’s ambassador to Israel Vivian Bercovici:

She also slammed self-professed human rights activists who have been hammering Israel with criticism:

Leaving no confusion as to which side she sympathizes with, Bercovici hashtagged some of her tweets #IsraelUnderAttack and #OperationProtectiveEdge, noting the Israeli military operation name.

Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird also tweeted support for Israel after the ground operation was announced.

Quoting angelaicky: I'll say it again, the whole world is watching and people are disgusted with Israel. They cheer as they bombed civilians and threaten journalists trying to do their job.


mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:09 AM
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Now, not only are you fundementally wrong about that, but it also surprises me you would think such a way. 

Know what it's called when one side has vastily superior weapons and are using them against a people who don't have anything close to it? Genocide. Murder. Slaughter. And it's also an international crime. 

Quoting LoveMyBoyK: Yes, Israel has better weapons. So more people are killed. One side of a battle beingstronger and more capable in no way negates the culpability of, and death toll racked up by, the other. Palestine is NOT innocent in the conflict.
Quoting idunno1234:

A different perspective:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the world’s major sources of instability. Americans are directly connected to this conflict, and increasingly imperiled by its devastation.

It is the goal of If Americans Knew to provide full and accurate information on this critical issue, and on our power – and duty – to bring a resolution.

Please click on any statistic for the source and more information.
Statistics last updated: July 17, 20
LoveMyBoyK
by Ruby Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:12 AM
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You keep pretending Hamas has nothing but rocks and slingshots, sweetie. Run along now. *pats your head*

Quoting mehamil1:

Now, not only are you fundementally wrong about that, but it also surprises me you would think such a way. 

Know what it's called when one side has vastily superior weapons and are using them against a people who don't have anything close to it? Genocide. Murder. Slaughter. And it's also an international crime. 

Quoting LoveMyBoyK: Yes, Israel has better weapons. So more people are killed. One side of a battle beingstronger and more capable in no way negates the culpability of, and death toll racked up by, the other. Palestine is NOT innocent in the conflict.

Quoting idunno1234:

A different perspective:


http://www.ifamericansknew.org/


The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the world’s major sources of instability. Americans are directly connected to this conflict, and increasingly imperiled by its devastation.


It is the goal of If Americans Knew to provide full and accurate information on this critical issue, and on our power – and duty – to bring a resolution.


Please click on any statistic for the source and more information.
Statistics last updated: July 17, 20
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angelaicky
by Bronze Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:15 AM
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My sexy John Stewart ... as always, right.

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