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Israel accepts an Egyptian-proposed Gaza cease-fire; Hamas keeps firing. Hamas deliberately aims rockets at civilians; Israel painstakingly tries to avoid them, actually telephoning civilians in the area and dropping warning charges, so-called roof knocking.

“Here’s the difference between us,” explains the Israeli prime minister. “We’re using missile defense to protect our civilians, and they’re using their civilians to protect their missiles.”

Charles Krauthammer writes a weekly political column that runs on Fridays. View Archive

Rarely does international politics present a moment of such moral clarity. Yet we routinely hear this Israel-Gaza fighting described as a morally equivalent “cycle of violence.” This is absurd. What possible interest can Israel have in cross-border fighting? Everyone knows Hamas set off this mini-war. And everyone knows the proudly self-declared raison d’etre of Hamas: the eradication of Israel and its Jews.

Apologists for Hamas attribute the blood lust to the Israeli occupation and blockade. Occupation? Does no one remember anything? It was less than 10 years ago that worldwide television showed the Israeli army pulling die-hard settlers off synagogue roofs in Gaza as Israel uprooted its settlements, expelled its citizens, withdrew its military and turned every inch of Gaza over to the Palestinians. There was not a soldier, not a settler, not a single Israeli left in Gaza.

And there was no blockade. On the contrary. Israel wanted this new Palestinian state to succeed. To help the Gaza economy, Israel gave the Palestinians its 3,000 greenhouses that had produced fruit and flowers for export. It opened border crossings and encouraged commerce.


The Israel Defense Forces released a video on Thursday that they claim shows a tunnel that Hamas militants planned to use to attack Israel. (YouTube/The Israel Defense Forces)

The whole idea was to establish the model for two states living peacefully and productively side by side. No one seems to remember that, simultaneous with the Gaza withdrawal, Israel dismantled four smaller settlements in the northern West Bank as a clear signal of Israel’s desire to leave the West Bank as well and thus achieve an amicable two-state solution.

This is not ancient history. This was nine years ago.

And how did the Gaza Palestinians react to being granted by the Israelis what no previous ruler, neither Egyptian, nor British, nor Turkish, had ever given them — an independent territory? First, they demolished the greenhouses. Then they elected Hamas. Then, instead of building a state with its attendant political and economic institutions, they spent the better part of a decade turning Gaza into a massive military base, brimming with terror weapons, to make ceaseless war on Israel.

Where are the roads and rail, the industry and infrastructure of the new Palestinian state? Nowhere. Instead, they built mile upon mile of underground tunnels to hide their weapons and, when the going gets tough, their military commanders. They spent millions importing and producing rockets, launchers, mortars, small arms, even drones. They deliberately placed them in schools, hospitals, mosques and private homes to better expose their own civilians. (Just Thursday, the U.N. announced that it found 20 rockets in a Gaza school.) And from which they fire rockets at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.

Why? The rockets can’t even inflict serious damage, being almost uniformly intercepted by Israel’s Iron Dome anti-missile system. Even West Bank leader Mahmoud Abbas has asked: “What are you trying to achieve by sending rockets?”

It makes no sense. Unless you understand, as Tuesday’s Post editorial explained, that the whole point is to draw Israeli counterfire.

This produces dead Palestinians for international television. Which is why Hamas perversely urges its own people not to seek safety when Israel drops leaflets warning of an imminent attack.

To deliberately wage war so that your own people can be telegenically killed is indeed moral and tactical insanity. But it rests on a very rational premise: Given the Orwellian state of the world’s treatment of Israel (see: the U.N.’s grotesque Human Rights Council), fueled by a mix of classic anti-Semitism, near-total historical ignorance and reflexive sympathy for the ostensible Third World underdog, these eruptions featuring Palestinian casualties ultimately undermine support for Israel’s legitimacy and right to self-defense.

In a world of such Kafkaesque ethical inversions, the depravity of Hamas begins to make sense. This is a world in which the Munich massacre is a movie and the murder of Klinghoffer is an opera — both deeply sympathetic to the killers. This is a world in which the U.N. ignores humanity’s worst war criminals while incessantly condemning Israel, a state warred upon for 66 years that nonetheless goes to extraordinary lengths to avoid harming the very innocents its enemies use as shields.

It’s to the Israelis’ credit that amid all this madness they haven’t lost their moral scruples. Or their nerve. Those outside the region have the minimum obligation, therefore, to expose the madness and speak the truth. Rarely has it been so blindingly clear.


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by on Jul. 18, 2014 at 9:13 PM
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mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:15 AM
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LMK, I do not patronize you, do not do it to me. I am willing to discuss this without the bullshit pats. 

Hamas has weapons but they aren't radio active. They don't have sensors. They are shit left over from the cold war. Israel is armed to the teeth by the US. Which they then sell to other nations. 

At no point have I ever said all they had were rocks and sling shots, they don't. But they have nothing close to the arsenal that Israel has. 

Quoting LoveMyBoyK: You keep pretending Hamas has nothing but rocks and slingshots, sweetie. Run along now. *pats your head*
Quoting mehamil1:

Now, not only are you fundementally wrong about that, but it also surprises me you would think such a way. 

Know what it's called when one side has vastily superior weapons and are using them against a people who don't have anything close to it? Genocide. Murder. Slaughter. And it's also an international crime. 

Quoting LoveMyBoyK: Yes, Israel has better weapons. So more people are killed. One side of a battle beingstronger and more capable in no way negates the culpability of, and death toll racked up by, the other. Palestine is NOT innocent in the conflict.
Quoting idunno1234:

A different perspective:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the world’s major sources of instability. Americans are directly connected to this conflict, and increasingly imperiled by its devastation.

It is the goal of If Americans Knew to provide full and accurate information on this critical issue, and on our power – and duty – to bring a resolution.

Please click on any statistic for the source and more information.
Statistics last updated: July 17, 20
Mommy_of_Riley
by Jes on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:15 AM

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Donna6503
by Platinum Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM
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Did you know that Russian rebels with just one rocket on one plane killed more people than Israel has in ten days of attacks. Yeah, you can make the claim that Israel is doing the best it can in keeping the death tow down.

Still, there is no basis for you to call Israeli action genocide; actually, you can call Hamas action "genocide" those are the ones that want Isreal to continue its' action so they, Hamas, can parade more dead people on its' decrepit cared for roads.

Quoting mehamil1:

Now, not only are you fundementally wrong about that, but it also surprises me you would think such a way. 

Know what it's called when one side has vastily superior weapons and are using them against a people who don't have anything close to it? Genocide. Murder. Slaughter. And it's also an international crime. 

Quoting LoveMyBoyK: Yes, Israel has better weapons. So more people are killed. One side of a battle beingstronger and more capable in no way negates the culpability of, and death toll racked up by, the other. Palestine is NOT innocent in the conflict.

Quoting idunno1234:

A different perspective:


http://www.ifamericansknew.org/


The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the world’s major sources of instability. Americans are directly connected to this conflict, and increasingly imperiled by its devastation.


It is the goal of If Americans Knew to provide full and accurate information on this critical issue, and on our power – and duty – to bring a resolution.


Please click on any statistic for the source and more information.
Statistics last updated: July 17, 20
Healthystart30
by Silver Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:24 AM
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Quoting MelanieJK:

The Palestinians were offered everything they say they want now during the Clinton negotiations and they walked away.   They're not negotiating in good faith AND they're cowards.    Hiding their missiles in civilian areas is cowardly.    The fact that people in this country fall for their crap is jaw dropping.     Luckily the polls suggest that most don't.



Palestine is one if the most densely populated areas in the world. Where should they keep their missiles? Do you also understand that they are not getting supplies? They are poor and hungry. They don't have enough room or freedom to live normal lives! They are in a survival mode at this point and Israel just sent their land army in to Palestine! Genocide and you are cheering them on! It's jaw dropping that you are still taking in the propaganda while the Israelis sit on top of a mountain cheering as the children are murdered in gasa!
Billiejeens
by Gold Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:24 AM
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Quoting OHgirlinCA:

Israel hasn't lost its moral scruples? 

That is an asinine comment. Their actions speak otherwise. 

Israel is by far more powerful and has the means to end this conflict or deal with it in a more humane manner but chooses not to. 

Violence isn't the answer for either side, but Israel should stop acting like they're the unprovoked victim.  



one true item there.
Israel does have the ability to end the conflict, yet they are too compassionate to do what needs to be done.
Carpy
by Ruby Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:33 AM
Canada is one of nine with a bit of sense. You turn, I guess, if you enjoy childish games.

Quoting angelaicky:

The flags are dramatic and good try.  But the facts are this: 138 countries supported Palestine at GA/11317.  Canada was one of only 9 that voted against. Your turn

Quoting Carpy:

While the Obama administration has
urged Israel to limit the scope of its ground operation in Gaza to only
striking tunnels used by terrorists, Canada’s Conservative Party-led
government has expressed unbridled support for Israel as it faces Hamas’
threats.


The contrasting approaches over the past 10 days of the Israel-Hamas
conflict have been seen in a series of statements, diplomatic exchanges
and tweets.


This image appears on the Conservative Party's website, calling on Canadians to

This image appeared on the Conservative Party of Canada’s website, calling on Canadians to “stand with Israel.”


U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry spoke with Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu after Israel sent ground troops into Gaza Thursday to
expand the Jewish state’s effort to combat the firing of Hamas and
other terrorist group rockets at Israeli communities.


Kerry reaffirmed the U.S.’ “strong
support for Israel’s right to defend itself against terrorist threats
emanating from tunnels into Israel and expressed our view that this
should be a precise operation to target tunnels, as described in a
statement from the Israeli Defense Forces,” the State Department said.


Kerry also “emphasized the need to avoid further escalation” and “the
importance of doing everything possible to prevent civilian
casualties.”


Kerry’s words of caution stood in contrast to a stream of 10
uncompromisingly pro-Israel tweets Friday morning from Canada’s
ambassador to Israel Vivian Bercovici:








She also slammed self-professed human rights activists who have been hammering Israel with criticism:






Leaving no confusion as to which side she sympathizes with, Bercovici
hashtagged some of her tweets #IsraelUnderAttack and
#OperationProtectiveEdge, noting the Israeli military operation name.


Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird also tweeted support for Israel after the ground operation was announced.


Quoting angelaicky: I'll say it again, the whole world is watching and people are disgusted with Israel. They cheer as they bombed civilians and threaten journalists trying to do their job.

angelaicky
by Bronze Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:34 AM
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Its hard to have a talk with them because they don't use facts.  They just keep saying the same things over and over... Palestine bad, Israel good.


Quoting mehamil1:

LMK, I do not patronize you, do not do it to me. I am willing to discuss this without the bullshit pats. 

Hamas has weapons but they aren't radio active. They don't have sensors. They are shit left over from the cold war. Israel is armed to the teeth by the US. Which they then sell to other nations. 

At no point have I ever said all they had were rocks and sling shots, they don't. But they have nothing close to the arsenal that Israel has. 

Quoting LoveMyBoyK: You keep pretending Hamas has nothing but rocks and slingshots, sweetie. Run along now. *pats your head*
Quoting mehamil1:

Now, not only are you fundementally wrong about that, but it also surprises me you would think such a way. 

Know what it's called when one side has vastily superior weapons and are using them against a people who don't have anything close to it? Genocide. Murder. Slaughter. And it's also an international crime. 

Quoting LoveMyBoyK: Yes, Israel has better weapons. So more people are killed. One side of a battle beingstronger and more capable in no way negates the culpability of, and death toll racked up by, the other. Palestine is NOT innocent in the conflict.
Quoting idunno1234:

A different perspective:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the world’s major sources of instability. Americans are directly connected to this conflict, and increasingly imperiled by its devastation.

It is the goal of If Americans Knew to provide full and accurate information on this critical issue, and on our power – and duty – to bring a resolution.

Please click on any statistic for the source and more information.
Statistics last updated: July 17, 20


angelaicky
by Bronze Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:37 AM

"Canada is one of nine with a bit of sense" I guess that means you have nothing


Quoting Carpy: Canada is one of nine with a bit of sense. You turn, I guess, if you enjoy childish games.
Quoting angelaicky:

The flags are dramatic and good try.  But the facts are this: 138 countries supported Palestine at GA/11317.  Canada was one of only 9 that voted against. Your turn


Quoting Carpy:


W

Billiejeens
by Gold Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:40 AM
Quoting Healthystart30:
Quoting MelanieJK:

The Palestinians were offered everything they say they want now during the Clinton negotiations and they walked away.   They're not negotiating in good faith AND they're cowards.    Hiding their missiles in civilian areas is cowardly.    The fact that people in this country fall for their crap is jaw dropping.     Luckily the polls suggest that most don't.



Palestine is one if the most densely populated areas in the world. Where should they keep their missiles? Do you also understand that they are not getting supplies? They are poor and hungry. They don't have enough room or freedom to live normal lives! They are in a survival mode at this point and Israel just sent their land army in to Palestine! Genocide and you are cheering them on! It's jaw dropping that you are still taking in the propaganda while the Israelis sit on top of a mountain cheering as the children are murdered in gasa!


Where do you keep your missiles?
Healthystart30
by Silver Member on Jul. 19, 2014 at 10:49 AM
Quoting Billiejeens:
Quoting Healthystart30:
Quoting MelanieJK:

The Palestinians were offered everything they say they want now during the Clinton negotiations and they walked away.   They're not negotiating in good faith AND they're cowards.    Hiding their missiles in civilian areas is cowardly.    The fact that people in this country fall for their crap is jaw dropping.     Luckily the polls suggest that most don't.



Palestine is one if the most densely populated areas in the world. Where should they keep their missiles? Do you also understand that they are not getting supplies? They are poor and hungry. They don't have enough room or freedom to live normal lives! They are in a survival mode at this point and Israel just sent their land army in to Palestine! Genocide and you are cheering them on! It's jaw dropping that you are still taking in the propaganda while the Israelis sit on top of a mountain cheering as the children are murdered in gasa!


Where do you keep your missiles?


Lucky for me I live in a privileged part of the world. There is no neighboring country demolishing my house, killing my children or starving me to obedience. Right now I don't need missiles but I'm guessing you already knew that and were just trying to be clever......
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