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Could we have prevented this?

Posted by on Aug. 21, 2014 at 12:16 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/21/foley-pal-blames-obama-policies-for-birth-isis/

An award-winning filmmaker and self-described revolutionary who knew James Foley well from their work in some of the world’s most dangerous war zones blames President Obama’s policies for helping create the monstrous terror organization that killed his friend.

Matthew VanDyke, a 35-year-old Baltimore native, said U.S. dithering when Syrian rebels needed help in their ongoing civil war with President Bashar al-Assad created a vacuum for Islamic State, the jihadist group that on Tuesday released a gruesome video showing Foley’s beheading. Had America helped the moderate rebels, they would not have formed their doomed alliance with the Al Qaeda-linked jihadists who then morphed into ISIS, or Islamic State, he said.

“[Obama] has been dragged kicking and screaming every time an American force has to be used and, like it or not, we are the sole super power on this planet and if we aren’t going to do it, who is going to do it?” VanDyke said.

“Now that we started this we have to just wipe ISIS out.”

- Matthew VanDyke, filmmaker and friend of James Foley

“ISIS is the creation of spring 2013,” he continued. “The Syrian conflict had been going on for two years before ISIS was formed. It all could have been prevented if we had a president who took action when we needed to take action. It’s like a disease, it becomes much more costly if you let it just spread.”

VanDyke, whose “Point and Shoot,” about his journey from journalist to fighter in the revolution that toppled Libyan strongman Muammar Qaddafi, was named best documentary at the Tribeca Film Festival in April, said the horrific murder of his friend leaves no doubt that Islamic State is at war with the U.S.

“They have a bull's-eye on us,” he said. “Now that we started this, we have to just wipe ISIS out.”

Although it is not known when the video showing the beheading of Foley, 40, a freelance photojournalist from New Hampshire, was shot, his executioner blamed U.S. airstrikes in Iraq for the killing. U.S. officials have deemed the video authentic.

VanDyke, who was held as a prisoner of war by Qaddafi’s regime and later fought alongside Syrian rebels, said Foley was a journalist, not a fighter.

“James was driven by passion, firm belief in the work,” he said. “He was a straight-shooting journalist, very ethical and very moral. People really liked him. I’ve never heard anyone say a bad word about James Foley.”

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ashellbell
by shellbark on Aug. 21, 2014 at 12:17 PM
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Do people just fucking forget that there were at least THREE people beheaded on film when Bush was in office? No one? No one?

 

 

numbr1wmn
by Nikki on Aug. 21, 2014 at 12:18 PM
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 And there is a Bush reference! Yep. LMAO

Quoting ashellbell:

Do people just fucking forget that there were at least THREE people beheaded on film when Bush was in office? No one? No one?

 

 

 

ashellbell
by shellbark on Aug. 21, 2014 at 12:19 PM
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Of course it's a Bush reference. All these idiots want to run around blaming Obama for the death of Foley, when the same fucking thing happened when Bush was in office. Do you blame him as well? Or does that stupidity only go one way?

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 And there is a Bush reference! Yep. LMAO

Quoting ashellbell:

Do people just fucking forget that there were at least THREE people beheaded on film when Bush was in office? No one? No one?

 

 

 

 

Raintree
by Ruby Member on Aug. 21, 2014 at 12:19 PM


Quoting ashellbell:

Do people just fucking forget that there were at least THREE people beheaded on film when Bush was in office? No one? No one?



No. Not really. 

coolmommy2x
by Gold Member on Aug. 21, 2014 at 12:20 PM
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Americans have been hated for years (OK, decades). It's hardly new or Obama's doing. And guess what, Americans will still be hated with the next president too.
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ashellbell
by shellbark on Aug. 21, 2014 at 12:20 PM
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The stupidity just irritates me. I don't get it. How can you blame one president for something when the same exact thing happened with the last one? It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Quoting Raintree:

Quoting ashellbell:

Do people just fucking forget that there were at least THREE people beheaded on film when Bush was in office? No one? No one?

 

 

No. Not really. 

 

UpSheRises
by Platinum Member on Aug. 21, 2014 at 12:23 PM

But that is how it could have been prevented...by not starting a war in the first place.

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 And there is a Bush reference! Yep. LMAO

Quoting ashellbell:

Do people just fucking forget that there were at least THREE people beheaded on film when Bush was in office? No one? No one?

 

 

 

 

ashellbell
by shellbark on Aug. 21, 2014 at 12:28 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_hostages_in_Iraq

 

10 americans kidnapped and killed by extremists when Bush was in office.

 

 

Could we have prevented this?? Do you blame Bush for these deaths as well?

VooDooB
by weird cheese on Aug. 21, 2014 at 12:28 PM
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I read yesterday that there was a rescue attempt made several months ago that failed. So it was attempted to get him.


I also heard we have 3 more reporters being "held" by an "unknown" group in Iraq.

Outspoken.Mime
by Bronze Member on Aug. 21, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Even if this one could have been prevented, there would have been something different that happened.  When a group of people are willing to blow themselves up just to get at another group of people, there is never going to be any way at all to prevent that completely.

Now, situations like Benghazi are a different matter, that was entirely botched.   But to suggest we can stop any 1 terrorist act had a domino effect of other events not happened is silly, IMO.   Because if it hadn't been this 1 act, it would have simply been another.

And no, I am not an Obama supporter, I think he is one of the worst Presidents this country has ever encountered, but that in no way means he could have prevented everything that has happened.

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