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The 10 Kinds of Trolls You Will Encounter When Talking About Mike Brown

Posted by on Aug. 23, 2014 at 10:09 AM
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I've been called "troll" so many times I once created a siggy using a troll doll acknolwedging I'm a troll and proud of it because if trying to foster understanding and trying to further the cause of equality and racial harmony for all is trolling, I'm a troll.

Unfortunately, I have company that ruins it for the rest of us trolls:

If you're paying attention to the events unfolding in Ferguson -- and by God, you better be -- then you probably already know there is a group of people in this country of ours who are determined to change the focus of the conversation about the killing of Mike Brown and the subsequent protests, attempting to shift the lens away from the Constitutional rights of U.S. citizens and the killing of a black teenager. If you're reading this, you probably already know the folks I'm talking about. But here they are. #Staywoke.

The Full-Blown Racist Troll
Block on sight. Some of them are friends of your Facebook friends -- block them. Some of them are your Facebook friends. Many of them are accounts like the one I have screenshotted below: anonymous and relying on blatantly racist language, such as blackface imagery, monkey references, use of the N-word, etc. These have exploded over the last week. We're talking hundreds. I've been using Twitter avidly for years and I can't recall ever seeing quite this much racist bile taking over an event-related hashtag (#Ferguson) as I have this week. Block them and report them for spam immediately.

The "Wait for Evidence" Troll
This troll may or may not be anonymous and pretends to be focused on respecting and upholding the law. "We don't know what happened yet," they say, "wait for evidence before you lambast an officer of the law." They pretend that things like racism, police brutality, police corruption, etc. don't exist and insist that if concrete evidence is released, they will be swayed to feel "sympathy" for Mike Brown. But they won't. When evidence arises, they find objection to its relevance or veracity. They then transform into The "Mike Brown Shouldn't Have [insert human action here]" Troll, to follow.

The "Mike Brown Shouldn't Have [insert human action here]" Troll
This troll (and the others as well) will go great lengths to justify the taking of black life. "He shouldn't have run," "he shouldn't have been sagging," "he shouldn't have been walking down the middle of the street," "he shouldn't have stolen something." These trolls come in all races and will insist that when a police officer (or a homeowner, or a security guard) assaults a person of color, that person must have done something to deserve it. The fact that Mike Brown was shot at least 6 times doesn't register as overkill, even when two of those shots were in the head. They will also extend effort to paint Ferguson as a ghetto, where this kind of thing happens all the time. Nope. Ferguson, Missouri had zero murders.

The "Police Are the Good Guys" Troll
These folks have a blissfully naïve version of police in their heads, the one fed to them since they were children that says police are the good guys and that no matter what they do, they must have had a reason. These people have no concept -- or pretend to have no concept -- of the depth of white supremacy and the way it is ingrained in every facet of our culture... even our police. Because they believe the police are always right -- and usually because they also believe that groups of black people are inherently violent -- they have no qualms about police dressed in military gear, sitting on tanks and tear-gassing American citizens. 'Murica. You may also hear these trolls say, "What about due process?" Well... we would proceed with due process. If they would actually arrest Darren Wilson. Which they haven't. So...

The "Violence Just Begets More Violence" Troll
These people are the riot-shamers. They roll out the word "looters!" at every chance and are not interested in the fact that only a small number of people at the protests have actively looted, or that Ferguson protestors actually locked arms to prevent said looting. These trolls hide behind anonymous accounts, they masquerade as sane coworkers, and they work for CNN and other major media outlets. They focus on the "unrest" in Ferguson and talk about it out of context in an attempt to 1) divert attention away from the killing of an unarmed black teenager and/or 2) disguise their lack of critical thought. As Mia McKenzie of Black Girl Dangerous said so well in thispost:

"a community pushing back against a murderous police force that is terrorizing them is not a 'riot.' It's an uprising. It's a rebellion. It's a community saying We can't take this anymore. We won't take it. It's people who have been dehumanized to the point of rightful rage. And it happens all over the world. Uprisings and rebellions are necessary and inevitable, locally and globally. This is not to say that actual riots don't happen. White folks riot at sporting events, for example. Riots happen. But people rising up in righteous anger and rage in the face of oppression should not be dismissed as simply a 'riot.'"

The Concern Troll
These are among the more passive aggressive trolls you will encounter. They not only target victims like Mike Brown with statements like "I wish he hadn't stolen those cigars: he might be alive," but target the community as well, saying things like "Should they really be out there protesting with little kids? I worry about that kind of parenting."

Let me make one thing clear in case you weren't sure: these people aren't worried about the children of Ferguson. They're not actually "concerned" at all," despite their title. These people employ words like "worry" and "I wish" and "concern" to communicate their disapproval of black people doing anything besides playing theMartin Baker role. If they were actually concerned, they would see the images of police with hidden badge numbers, tear-gassing eight-year old girls, and be concerned about the escalation of violence police in Ferguson are responsible for.

The "But What About Black on Black Crime!" Troll
Yes, 85 percent of violent crime against black people is perpetuated by other black people. But guess what? The exact same is true for violent crime committed against white people: the vast majority of those crimes are committed by other white people. People who use the term "black on black crime" either 1) work for Fox News, 2) are seeking to portray black people as violent and out of control, and/or 3) seek to portray black people as only caring about black lives when there is a way to blame white people. Let's run that back: 1) If they work for Fox News...you already know. 2) If we're going to make sweeping statements about people being violent and out of control, perhaps we should focus on young white males. 3) Anyone who would fit with #3 is not interested in facts, otherwise they would be aware of the vast number of organizations and movements to end gun violence in black neighborhoods... spearheaded by black people. The real motivation behind this troll (and all of them really) is to distract from the matter at hand, and that's that an unarmed black teen is dead.

The "Don't Make This A Racial Issue!" Troll
These are the pearl-clutchers. "This could have happened to anyone! Let's not make this a racial issue and instead focus on getting this cop off the street!" Yes, we should focus on getting this cop off the street, but we must also focus on the conditions that made this killing possible, and that is one of racism, white supremacy, and police violence that has been being built and rebuilt since the birth of this country. No, this wouldn't have just happened to anyone. A black male is killed by police every 28 hours in America. This is a racial issue.

These trolls will also accuse you of being racist for talking about racism and start quoting to you all the times black people perpetuated "reverse racism" against white people. Suggested action? Block and keep it moving.

The Misinformation Bots
These are particularly dangerous and I have seen a lot of them in the past week. I won't speculate on where they come from -- although I have a fairly good idea -- but their sole purpose is to spread misinformation about Mike Brown and Darren Wilson, targeting people tweeting under the #Ferguson and #MikeBrown hashtags and sending them to false articles on homemade websites about alternate eyewitnesses that saw Brown attack Wilson, etc. Don't engage with these people: they likely get paid for it. Report them as spam and, you guessed it: keep it moving.

The "I Wish We Could All Just Get Along" Troll
These trolls might mean well. They might. But that doesn't mean they're not trolls. You post/tweet an article and they tweet back, "This is all really bad, but I wish this wasn't happening. Can't we all just get along?" They're trolling you. We all wish we could get along. But right now a boy is dead and is receiving no justice by the system that supposedly exists to protect him. Injecting Pollyanna-isms aren't helping anyone. If you really want to help and the frontlines aren't for you, just donate to the Michael Brown Memorial Fund. And stay out of the way.

This isn't an exhaustive list. When a black person is killed in America, trolls come out of the woodwork in an attempt to justify or distract from the taking of that life. After finishing this post, I'm not even sure "troll" is the right word, but I'm not sure if I have a better one either. Weights, perhaps. Cinder blocks shackled to the rising tide of Americans who want better, believe in better; who see the killing of another black kid in America and say "enough." These people are not merely trolls. "Troll" implies something harmless, a faceless entity in the underbelly of the Internet. These people are not harmless. They are part of the problem. Unfortunately I don't have a solution for the problem they pose: they are not interested in self-education. They are not interested in empathy. They are not interested in challenging the worldview that has tucked them in at night and told them the police are here for our protection and that black people deserve what they get. They are interested only in standing very still, while the rest of us move forward. All I can say is this: move on without them. Block, report, and move on without them. Even when they're friends.

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by on Aug. 23, 2014 at 10:09 AM
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PerseyG
by Silver Member on Aug. 23, 2014 at 10:42 AM
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Whoever wrote this needs an Inigo Montoya meme.

"I don't think that word means what you think it means".

I see "troll" tossed around a lot these days and it's almost never used correctly. like ever.

A an actual troll is someone who creates an account to deliberately be obnoxious and contrary. Trolls usually have sock-puppet accounts to uncrease their presence.

Disagreeing with the status quo of a debate is NOT trolling. It's called having an opinion.

Going into a pro-life forum and posting pics of that artist who allegedly ate a dead baby and shouting YOLO! is a troll.

Posting an article and getting pissy about disageeing comments is not trolling BUT baiting people with incendiary material just so you can go batshit is trolling.

And if you have sockpuppet accounts, you are a troll.
JonJon
by Ruby Member on Aug. 23, 2014 at 10:50 AM

First time I have ever seen the expression, "sock puppet account."  Had to look it up.  Thanks for contributing to my base of knowledge and awareness, every day.

Quoting PerseyG: Whoever wrote this needs an Inigo Montoya meme. "I don't think that word means what you think it means". I see "troll" tossed around a lot these days and it's almost never used correctly. like ever. A an actual troll is someone who creates an account to deliberately be obnoxious and contrary. Trolls usually have sock-puppet accounts to uncrease their presence. Disagreeing with the status quo of a debate is NOT trolling. It's called having an opinion. Going into a pro-life forum and posting pics of that artist who allegedly ate a dead baby and shouting YOLO! is a troll. Posting an article and getting pissy about disageeing comments is not trolling BUT baiting people with incendiary material just so you can go batshit is trolling. And if you have sockpuppet accounts, you are a troll.


PerseyG
by Silver Member on Aug. 23, 2014 at 10:58 AM
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lol. I am a plethora of completely useless information.

I am like the Rain Man of pop culture. Can't remember to feed myself on a daily basis but I can remember old school forum rules.

Trolls, flame-warriors, sockpuppets, post-count elitists.

:)

Quoting JonJon:

First time I have ever seen the expression, "sock puppet account."  Had to look it up.  Thanks for contributing to my base of knowledge and awareness, every day.

Quoting PerseyG: Whoever wrote this needs an Inigo Montoya meme.

"I don't think that word means what you think it means".

I see "troll" tossed around a lot these days and it's almost never used correctly. like ever.

A an actual troll is someone who creates an account to deliberately be obnoxious and contrary. Trolls usually have sock-puppet accounts to uncrease their presence.

Disagreeing with the status quo of a debate is NOT trolling. It's called having an opinion.

Going into a pro-life forum and posting pics of that artist who allegedly ate a dead baby and shouting YOLO! is a troll.

Posting an article and getting pissy about disageeing comments is not trolling BUT baiting people with incendiary material just so you can go batshit is trolling.

And if you have sockpuppet accounts, you are a troll.

survivorinohio
by René on Aug. 23, 2014 at 11:06 AM

I think we have some bonified trolls here and some that just display troll like behavior from time to time lol.

Quoting PerseyG: Whoever wrote this needs an Inigo Montoya meme. "I don't think that word means what you think it means". I see "troll" tossed around a lot these days and it's almost never used correctly. like ever. A an actual troll is someone who creates an account to deliberately be obnoxious and contrary. Trolls usually have sock-puppet accounts to uncrease their presence. Disagreeing with the status quo of a debate is NOT trolling. It's called having an opinion. Going into a pro-life forum and posting pics of that artist who allegedly ate a dead baby and shouting YOLO! is a troll. Posting an article and getting pissy about disageeing comments is not trolling BUT baiting people with incendiary material just so you can go batshit is trolling. And if you have sockpuppet accounts, you are a troll.


How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


JonJon
by Ruby Member on Aug. 23, 2014 at 12:45 PM

I laughed and got tears in my eyes!  Flame-warriors? Post-count elitists?  I think I can guess what the last one is!  

You're too funny. 

Quoting PerseyG: lol. I am a plethora of completely useless information. I am like the Rain Man of pop culture. Can't remember to feed myself on a daily basis but I can remember old school forum rules. Trolls, flame-warriors, sockpuppets, post-count elitists. :)
Quoting JonJon:

First time I have ever seen the expression, "sock puppet account."  Had to look it up.  Thanks for contributing to my base of knowledge and awareness, every day.

Quoting PerseyG: Whoever wrote this needs an Inigo Montoya meme. "I don't think that word means what you think it means". I see "troll" tossed around a lot these days and it's almost never used correctly. like ever. A an actual troll is someone who creates an account to deliberately be obnoxious and contrary. Trolls usually have sock-puppet accounts to uncrease their presence. Disagreeing with the status quo of a debate is NOT trolling. It's called having an opinion. Going into a pro-life forum and posting pics of that artist who allegedly ate a dead baby and shouting YOLO! is a troll. Posting an article and getting pissy about disageeing comments is not trolling BUT baiting people with incendiary material just so you can go batshit is trolling. And if you have sockpuppet accounts, you are a troll.


KreatingMe
by Silver Member on Aug. 23, 2014 at 2:03 PM
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 So we aren't supposed to wait for evidence? What would you propose instead? Are we supposed to forego the evidence in all cases or just this particular one?

Fyi- If you've already made up your mind that the officer is guilty and you don't care about evidence that makes you the same and no better than the people you assume would discredit evidence suggesting Wilson's guilt / guilty verdict.

JonJon
by Ruby Member on Aug. 25, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Bumping because it's true.  

JonJon
by Ruby Member on Aug. 25, 2014 at 11:03 AM


Quoting KreatingMe:

 So we aren't supposed to wait for evidence? What would you propose instead? Are we supposed to forego the evidence in all cases or just this particular one?

Fyi- If you've already made up your mind that the officer is guilty and you don't care about evidence that makes you the same and no better than the people you assume would discredit evidence suggesting Wilson's guilt / guilty verdict.

What?  You must have been so ready with that argument and accusations you don't care WHAT the subject matter is!  LOL!  Burnt a hole in your pocket, did it?

Go to a post where I've commented on evidence and/or guilt and we'll talk...er...argue. 

littlemum41
by Gold Member on Aug. 25, 2014 at 12:03 PM

 

Quoting PerseyG: Whoever wrote this needs an Inigo Montoya meme. "I don't think that word means what you think it means". I see "troll" tossed around a lot these days and it's almost never used correctly. like ever. A an actual troll is someone who creates an account to deliberately be obnoxious and contrary. Trolls usually have sock-puppet accounts to uncrease their presence. Disagreeing with the status quo of a debate is NOT trolling. It's called having an opinion. Going into a pro-life forum and posting pics of that artist who allegedly ate a dead baby and shouting YOLO! is a troll. Posting an article and getting pissy about disageeing comments is not trolling BUT baiting people with incendiary material just so you can go batshit is trolling. And if you have sockpuppet accounts, you are a troll.

 I think that you did a really good job of describing Trolls.

But I have not heard of the term "Sock Puppets" before. LOL. Funny!

numbr1wmn
by Nikki on Aug. 25, 2014 at 12:06 PM

 I actually agree with you and Perseyg.

I never heard of a sock puppet till I got called one because I was sad a young girl lost her life to a gang.

Quoting littlemum41:

 

Quoting PerseyG: Whoever wrote this needs an Inigo Montoya meme. "I don't think that word means what you think it means". I see "troll" tossed around a lot these days and it's almost never used correctly. like ever. A an actual troll is someone who creates an account to deliberately be obnoxious and contrary. Trolls usually have sock-puppet accounts to uncrease their presence. Disagreeing with the status quo of a debate is NOT trolling. It's called having an opinion. Going into a pro-life forum and posting pics of that artist who allegedly ate a dead baby and shouting YOLO! is a troll. Posting an article and getting pissy about disageeing comments is not trolling BUT baiting people with incendiary material just so you can go batshit is trolling. And if you have sockpuppet accounts, you are a troll.

 I think that you did a really good job of describing Trolls.

But I have not heard of the term "Sock Puppets" before. LOL. Funny!

 

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