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Remember when trump said he wasn't going to take a salary? He just accepted his second paycheck.

Remember when he said Mexico was going to pay for the wall? He has asked Congress to appropriate the $25 billion of taxpayer money to cover costs.

Remember when he said he wasn't going to go on vacation or play golf? 5 of the last 7 weekends he went on vacation and played golf, costing taxpayers $11.1 million.

Remember when he said he was going to use American steel to build these dangerous pipelines? Russian steel arrived last week for the Keystone Pipeline XL.

Remember when he said he wasn't going to cut social security and Medicare? The Republican bill does just this.

Remember when he said that nobody on his campaign had any communications with the Russian government? 7 of his people have now admitted they spoke and/or met with Russian officials, after they lied and got caught.

Remember when he said he was going to divest from his businesses? Changed his mind.

Remember when he said he was going to release his tax returns? Changed his mind.

Remember when he said he was going to drain the swamp of Washington insiders? His cabinet is filled with lobbyists, oil and Wall Street executives.

Remember when he said would defeat ISIS in 30 days? He doesn't have a plan.

Remember when he said that the Obamacare replacement would cover more people at lower cost? The AHCA that the GOP and 45 are now pushing; they now admit will cover fewer people at a higher cost.

If you voted for him, please hold him accountable to what he promised you - 

by on Mar. 18, 2017 at 11:57 PM
Replies (81-90):
BmoreOrioles
by Silver Member on Mar. 21, 2017 at 10:30 PM


Quoting francee89: "Trump is not going on "vacations" he is working 7 days a week, and (at times) building important relationships on the golf course." He's absolutely on vacations when he chooses to spend time at a private resort. Just like Obama was on vacation when he went to Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard, and Bush was when he went to his ranch. Was he under the impression they did zero work when away from the White House when he chose to repeatedly criticize Obama for his time away? Why did he say, in March 2016 that there was no need to fly around, that the White House was an "incredible place", and question why the President has to fly and leave so much? If he actually felt that way, why is he choosing to fly around and leave so much? Besides the Japanese Prime Minister, who in the political sphere has he been building important relationships with? And how did he know Obama wasn't also building important relationships on the golf course when he repeatedly criticized him for doing the same?
Quoting BmoreOrioles:

Remember when trump said he wasn't going to take a salary? He just accepted his second paycheck.

He is donating his paycheck to charity.

Remember when he said Mexico was going to pay for the wall? He has asked Congress to appropriate the $25 billion of taxpayer money to cover costs.

And down the road (in one way or the other) Mexico will pay for the wall. 

Remember when he said he wasn't going to go on vacation or play golf? 5 of the last 7 weekends he went on vacation and played golf, costing taxpayers $11.1 million.

Trump is not going on "vacations" he is working 7 days a week, and (at times) building important relationships on the golf course. 

Remember when he said he was going to use American steel to build these dangerous pipelines? Russian steel arrived last week for the Keystone Pipeline XL.

"TransCanada said late Friday it has already has purchase agreements for the steel pipe it will use on Keystone. It said half of the pipe will come from the Arkansas plant of India-based steelmaker, Welspun. Another 10% will come from a Welspun plant in India, the rest will be imported from Canada and Italy. In addition, it has already purchased about $800 million worth of other goods from U.S. manufacturers." 

http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/03/news/companies/trump-keystone-pipeline-american-steel/index.html 

Remember when he said he wasn't going to cut social security and Medicare? The Republican bill does just this.

The plan is for those who are on Medicaid, and who are able-bodied to go to work. I don't think social security and Medicare will be cut. 

Remember when he said that nobody on his campaign had any communications with the Russian government? 7 of his people have now admitted they spoke and/or met with Russian officials, after they lied and got caught.

A lot of people during a lot of campaigns communicated with Russia. In which case it is not a matter of "admitting" it's a matter of acknowledging. What are the names of the 7 people who are claimed to have "lied" about this?

Remember when he said he was going to divest from his businesses? Changed his mind. 

Remember when he said he was going to release his tax returns? Changed his mind.

It is Trump's prerogative to change his mind on certain things. Did the Democrats care when Obama changed his mind, and as to his not disclosing any of college records, etc.?

Remember when he said he was going to drain the swamp of Washington insiders? His cabinet is filled with lobbyists, oil and Wall Street executives.

Who did Democrats expect Trump to choose for his cabinet? Name the people he should have chosen who would agree to take on the job. 

Remember when he said would defeat ISIS in 30 days? He doesn't have a plan.

Trump did not say that he would "defeat" ISIS in 30 days. Do Democrata expect him to tell us the plans that he has for defeating ISIS?

Remember when he said that the Obamacare replacement would cover more people at lower cost? The AHCA that the GOP and 45 are now pushing; they now admit will cover fewer people at a higher cost.

It's not a "done deal" ... it's still being worked on.

If you voted for him, please hold him accountable to what he promised you - 

Was any other president held to what they promised? Did any other president keep ALL of his promises? 

I didn't have a problem with Obama's vacations or his playing golf and, IMO, Trump should not have criticized Obama for something that Trump is now (to a point) doing himself.

I'm sure that some of Obama's golf games were in an effort to foster good relationships that were meaningful to his presidency.

Having said that, I do not see Trump going back home the same as a two week vacation in Hawaii or Martha's Vineyard; not even close.

And Bush's idea of a vacation ... clearing brush on his ranch ... wouldn't be a vacation to me! 

Until Melania and Barron move into the White House Mar-a-Lago is familiar place for them to be together as a family, and this is important; especially to Barron. So, I don't have a problem with it.


francee89
by Silver Member on Mar. 21, 2017 at 10:45 PM
Trump chose to criticize Obama for golfing and vacations, and is now choosing to engage in the same behavior. It's exceedingly hypocritical of him.

I see it as very much the same. Vacation is vacation, whether it's taken in a two week span or in smaller weekend increments. There's absolutely nothing stopping them from being together as a family at the White House, particularly when Trump said a year ago he'd be too busy to leave and implied it was wrong for the President to be flying around. I'm just holding him to his own freely set standard.

Quoting BmoreOrioles:

Quoting francee89: "Trump is not going on "vacations" he is working 7 days a week, and (at times) building important relationships on the golf course."

He's absolutely on vacations when he chooses to spend time at a private resort. Just like Obama was on vacation when he went to Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard, and Bush was when he went to his ranch. Was he under the impression they did zero work when away from the White House when he chose to repeatedly criticize Obama for his time away?

Why did he say, in March 2016 that there was no need to fly around, that the White House was an "incredible place", and question why the President has to fly and leave so much? If he actually felt that way, why is he choosing to fly around and leave so much?

Besides the Japanese Prime Minister, who in the political sphere has he been building important relationships with? And how did he know Obama wasn't also building important relationships on the golf course when he repeatedly criticized him for doing the same?
Quoting BmoreOrioles:

Remember when trump said he wasn't going to take a salary? He just accepted his second paycheck.

He is donating his paycheck to charity.

Remember when he said Mexico was going to pay for the wall? He has asked Congress to appropriate the $25 billion of taxpayer money to cover costs.

And down the road (in one way or the other) Mexico will pay for the wall. 

Remember when he said he wasn't going to go on vacation or play golf? 5 of the last 7 weekends he went on vacation and played golf, costing taxpayers $11.1 million.

Trump is not going on "vacations" he is working 7 days a week, and (at times) building important relationships on the golf course. 

Remember when he said he was going to use American steel to build these dangerous pipelines? Russian steel arrived last week for the Keystone Pipeline XL.

"TransCanada said late Friday it has already has purchase agreements for the steel pipe it will use on Keystone. It said half of the pipe will come from the Arkansas plant of India-based steelmaker, Welspun. Another 10% will come from a Welspun plant in India, the rest will be imported from Canada and Italy. In addition, it has already purchased about $800 million worth of other goods from U.S. manufacturers." 

http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/03/news/companies/trump-keystone-pipeline-american-steel/index.html 

Remember when he said he wasn't going to cut social security and Medicare? The Republican bill does just this.

The plan is for those who are on Medicaid, and who are able-bodied to go to work. I don't think social security and Medicare will be cut. 

Remember when he said that nobody on his campaign had any communications with the Russian government? 7 of his people have now admitted they spoke and/or met with Russian officials, after they lied and got caught.

A lot of people during a lot of campaigns communicated with Russia. In which case it is not a matter of "admitting" it's a matter of acknowledging. What are the names of the 7 people who are claimed to have "lied" about this?

Remember when he said he was going to divest from his businesses? Changed his mind. 

Remember when he said he was going to release his tax returns? Changed his mind.

It is Trump's prerogative to change his mind on certain things. Did the Democrats care when Obama changed his mind, and as to his not disclosing any of college records, etc.?

Remember when he said he was going to drain the swamp of Washington insiders? His cabinet is filled with lobbyists, oil and Wall Street executives.

Who did Democrats expect Trump to choose for his cabinet? Name the people he should have chosen who would agree to take on the job. 

Remember when he said would defeat ISIS in 30 days? He doesn't have a plan.

Trump did not say that he would "defeat" ISIS in 30 days. Do Democrata expect him to tell us the plans that he has for defeating ISIS?

Remember when he said that the Obamacare replacement would cover more people at lower cost? The AHCA that the GOP and 45 are now pushing; they now admit will cover fewer people at a higher cost.

It's not a "done deal" ... it's still being worked on.

If you voted for him, please hold him accountable to what he promised you - 

Was any other president held to what they promised? Did any other president keep ALL of his promises? 

I didn't have a problem with Obama's vacations or his playing golf and, IMO, Trump should not have criticized Obama for something that Trump is now (to a point) doing himself.

I'm sure that some of Obama's golf games were in an effort to foster good relationships that were meaningful to his presidency.

Having said that, I do not see Trump going back home the same as a two week vacation in Hawaii or Martha's Vineyard; not even close.

And Bush's idea of a vacation ... clearing brush on his ranch ... wouldn't be a vacation to me! 

Until Melania and Barron move into the White House Mar-a-Lago is familiar place for them to be together as a family, and this is important; especially to Barron. So, I don't have a problem with it.

BmoreOrioles
by Silver Member on Mar. 21, 2017 at 10:48 PM


Quoting Sisteract:

Trump has created his own enemies during the campaign and now. He has disparaged so many groups of people, and unfortunately for him, people are human.

There is no denying he is a fish out of water and out of his element.

He is not qualified and seemingly ill-suited for the position; he refuses to listen to those who do know and do have those needed experiences.

Trump is an outsider because he treats people so poorly.

IMO, much of his negative approval rating could be attributed to his lack of qualifications....you couple that with his acerbic personality, and it's a wonder he's not @ a single digit approval rating.   

It's fine for you to hold that opinion. However, I do not agree with you and neither do a LOT of other people. Trump may very well come to be one of our best presidents.

"Andrew Jackson had a pugnacious temper — and a readiness to use a gun — that makes the hyperactive Trump look like a choir boy. In 1828, opposition handbills accused Jackson of being a man “who carries a sword cane, and is willing to run it through the body of anyone who may presume to stand in his way.”

Not known for his etiquette was Lyndon Johnson, who had a habit of holding meetings while sitting on the john.

Trump’s salacious locker-room talk, inappropriate though it may be, is no match for Bill Clinton’s peccadillos, JFK’s many affairs or Warren Harding’s romps in the White House closet with mistress Nan Britton (she got pregnant and had a child out of wedlock).

Trump has the vanity of John Adams, who was highly sensitive to criticism, though Adams wanted to be called Emperor and outlaw a free press. This is not the case with Trump.

Trump has been known to publicly call out his foes — a lot like George Washington, who named his dog Cornwallis after the defeated British general. Washington took great pleasure in ordering the dog to do his bidding: “Come here, Cornwallis! Jump! Sit!”

Some of President Trump’s critics decry that, while winning the electoral vote, he lost the popular vote by almost 2.9 million. They incorrectly call him illegitimate.

It’s true we’d never seen a campaign like this, where the winner trailed his opponent throughout the campaign, was outspent 2-to-1, lacked the support of the national media and was shunned by much of his own political party. He insisted he was leading a movement, yet hardly anyone believed him.

Abraham Lincoln was another unusual winner. He even once admitted, “I do not think myself fit for the presidency.”

He had been a single-term congressman who had spent the next 11 years holding no public office, during which time he ran for the US Senate twice and lost.

He was a small-town lawyer of no particular distinction seeking the party nomination against the powerful senator from New York, William Seward. Lincoln ended up winning, only to have to face three candidates for the presidency. Lincoln won with less than 40 percent of the vote.

No one today would ever question the legitimacy of his presidency. So, America, we need to get some perspective. Trump’s rise to the White House, while shocking to some, is just one more remarkable story in the history of our great nation."

http://nypost.com/2017/01/22/what-donald-trump-and-andrew-jackson-have-in-common/



Sisteract
by Whoopie on Mar. 21, 2017 at 10:59 PM

I'll wait for the full FBI investigation to see how it all shakes out.

Corruption and infiltration of our election process by a foreign nation was never considered before this election. Sad-

Quoting BmoreOrioles:


Quoting Sisteract:

Trump has created his own enemies during the campaign and now. He has disparaged so many groups of people, and unfortunately for him, people are human.

There is no denying he is a fish out of water and out of his element.

He is not qualified and seemingly ill-suited for the position; he refuses to listen to those who do know and do have those needed experiences.

Trump is an outsider because he treats people so poorly.

IMO, much of his negative approval rating could be attributed to his lack of qualifications....you couple that with his acerbic personality, and it's a wonder he's not @ a single digit approval rating.   

It's fine for you to hold that opinion. However, I do not agree with you and neither do a LOT of other people. Trump may very well come to be one of our best presidents.

"Andrew Jackson had a pugnacious temper — and a readiness to use a gun — that makes the hyperactive Trump look like a choir boy. In 1828, opposition handbills accused Jackson of being a man “who carries a sword cane, and is willing to run it through the body of anyone who may presume to stand in his way.”

Not known for his etiquette was Lyndon Johnson, who had a habit of holding meetings while sitting on the john.

Trump’s salacious locker-room talk, inappropriate though it may be, is no match for Bill Clinton’s peccadillos, JFK’s many affairs or Warren Harding’s romps in the White House closet with mistress Nan Britton (she got pregnant and had a child out of wedlock).

Trump has the vanity of John Adams, who was highly sensitive to criticism, though Adams wanted to be called Emperor and outlaw a free press. This is not the case with Trump.

Trump has been known to publicly call out his foes — a lot like George Washington, who named his dog Cornwallis after the defeated British general. Washington took great pleasure in ordering the dog to do his bidding: “Come here, Cornwallis! Jump! Sit!”

Some of President Trump’s critics decry that, while winning the electoral vote, he lost the popular vote by almost 2.9 million. They incorrectly call him illegitimate.

It’s true we’d never seen a campaign like this, where the winner trailed his opponent throughout the campaign, was outspent 2-to-1, lacked the support of the national media and was shunned by much of his own political party. He insisted he was leading a movement, yet hardly anyone believed him.

Abraham Lincoln was another unusual winner. He even once admitted, “I do not think myself fit for the presidency.”

He had been a single-term congressman who had spent the next 11 years holding no public office, during which time he ran for the US Senate twice and lost.

He was a small-town lawyer of no particular distinction seeking the party nomination against the powerful senator from New York, William Seward. Lincoln ended up winning, only to have to face three candidates for the presidency. Lincoln won with less than 40 percent of the vote.

No one today would ever question the legitimacy of his presidency. So, America, we need to get some perspective. Trump’s rise to the White House, while shocking to some, is just one more remarkable story in the history of our great nation."

http://nypost.com/2017/01/22/what-donald-trump-and-andrew-jackson-have-in-common/


Sisteract
by Whoopie on Mar. 21, 2017 at 11:03 PM

President Trump punched Monday at one poll of his approval ratings while touting another. But the latter poll, by Fox News, showed him with a steadily declining performance rate.

“Just heard Fake News CNN is doing polls again despite the fact that their election polls were a WAY OFF disaster. Much higher ratings at Fox,” Trump tweeted.

The president, known to be an avid viewer of cable news, may have been responding to a Gallup poll that CNN covered Monday morning. The poll showed that 37 percent of Americans approved of Trump’s performance in office, while 58 percent disapproved.

While the most recent Fox News poll is friendlier, its figures still show that a majority of Americans disapproved of Trump’s job performance. That poll found an overall approval/disapproval split of 43 percent to 51 percent, down from 48 percent to 47 percent on Feb. 13.

Quoting OTZMom: Where are you getting that approval rating?
Quoting Sisteract:

37% approval rating- according to the press, the lowest for any POTUS 60 days in, in recent times.

Quoting BmoreOrioles:


Quoting Sisteract:

Quoting BmoreOrioles:

Remember when trump said he wasn't going to take a salary? He just accepted his second paycheck.

He is donating his paycheck to charity.

Remember when he said Mexico was going to pay for the wall? He has asked Congress to appropriate the $25 billion of taxpayer money to cover costs.

And down the road (in one way or the other) Mexico will pay for the wall. 

Remember when he said he wasn't going to go on vacation or play golf? 5 of the last 7 weekends he went on vacation and played golf, costing taxpayers $11.1 million.

Trump is not going on "vacations" he is working 7 days a week, and (at times) building important relationships on the golf course. 

Remember when he said he was going to use American steel to build these dangerous pipelines? Russian steel arrived last week for the Keystone Pipeline XL.

"TransCanada said late Friday it has already has purchase agreements for the steel pipe it will use on Keystone. It said half of the pipe will come from the Arkansas plant of India-based steelmaker, Welspun. Another 10% will come from a Welspun plant in India, the rest will be imported from Canada and Italy. In addition, it has already purchased about $800 million worth of other goods from U.S. manufacturers." 

http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/03/news/companies/trump-keystone-pipeline-american-steel/index.html 

Remember when he said he wasn't going to cut social security and Medicare? The Republican bill does just this.

The plan is for those who are on Medicaid, and who are able-bodied to go to work. I don't think social security and Medicare will be cut. 

Remember when he said that nobody on his campaign had any communications with the Russian government? 7 of his people have now admitted they spoke and/or met with Russian officials, after they lied and got caught.

A lot of people during a lot of campaigns communicated with Russia. In which case it is not a matter of "admitting" it's a matter of acknowledging. What are the names of the 7 people who are claimed to have "lied" about this?

Remember when he said he was going to divest from his businesses? Changed his mind. 

Remember when he said he was going to release his tax returns? Changed his mind.

It is Trump's prerogative to change his mind on certain things. Did the Democrats care when Obama changed his mind, and as to his not disclosing any of college records, etc.?

Remember when he said he was going to drain the swamp of Washington insiders? His cabinet is filled with lobbyists, oil and Wall Street executives.

Who did Democrats expect Trump to choose for his cabinet? Name the people he should have chosen who would agree to take on the job. 

Remember when he said would defeat ISIS in 30 days? He doesn't have a plan.

Trump did not say that he would "defeat" ISIS in 30 days. Do Democrata expect him to tell us the plans that he has for defeating ISIS?

Remember when he said that the Obamacare replacement would cover more people at lower cost? The AHCA that the GOP and 45 are now pushing; they now admit will cover fewer people at a higher cost.

It's not a "done deal" ... it's still being worked on.

If you voted for him, please hold him accountable to what he promised you - 

Was any other president held to what they promised? Did any other president keep ALL of his promises? 

Uh oh, I thought Trump was going to be better and different... Trump, to date, has done nothing.

He is not better. He is different in that he is wholly unqualified for the job.

No body who voted for Trump said that they believed that he would be able to keep ALL of his promises.

It remains to be seen how much better and different Trump will be (as president) in the long-run. To judge him so harshly in his first 60 days is an overreaction, IMO. 


BmoreOrioles
by Silver Member on Mar. 21, 2017 at 11:21 PM


Quoting francee89: Trump chose to criticize Obama for golfing and vacations, and is now choosing to engage in the same behavior. It's exceedingly hypocritical of him. I see it as very much the same. Vacation is vacation, whether it's taken in a two week span or in smaller weekend increments. There's absolutely nothing stopping them from being together as a family at the White House, particularly when Trump said a year ago he'd be too busy to leave and implied it was wrong for the President to be flying around. I'm just holding him to his own freely set standard.  


It's cold in Washington, and not that much to do this time of year, and Barron has no friends there; as he is finishing up the school year in New York.

I do not begrudge the Trumps doing what is best for their young son. Barron has a big adjustment to make in the very near future, and this is much more difficult for some children than others. 

It seems (to me) that Trump is mostly working, and planning for the future, even over dinner when he is on "vacation." 


NEWS

Trump Woos Dershowitz At Mar-A-Lago Schmoozefest

Alan Dershowitz just wanted to have a relaxing weekend, and as luck had it, it happened to take place at Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump’s Florida club, referred to by the president as the “Winter White House.”

And when at Mar-a-Lago, one can expect the president to drop by one’s table during dinner for a chat, especially if this certain guest was just on Fox News praising the president’s new travel ban executive order.

“He had some ideas on the Middle East he wanted to test out with me,” Dershowitz later told Politico. Speaking to Page Six, Dershowitz provided a more detailed account of his conversation with President Trump. “He picked the subjects. I didn’t have an agenda, but he had an agenda,” Dershowitz said. “He said, ‘I want to talk about this, this and that,’ and talked about six subjects or something,” including the travel ban, Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch, Israel, “wiretaps” and “leaks.”

But the master of the deal wasn’t out schmoozing with Dershowitz only for some feedback on his policies. He was out to get the vote of the Harvard law professor who is a longtime Democrat, though one always happy to criticize his own party. “He said, ‘If I can get you to vote for me in 2020, that’ll be the real accomplishment because you’ve probably never voted for a Republican,” Dershowitz said. “It’ll be very uphill, but I have an open mind.”

Read more: http://forward.com/fast-forward/366643/trump-woos-dershowitz-at-mar-a-lago-schmoozefest/


francee89
by Silver Member on Mar. 22, 2017 at 6:55 AM
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It's no colder in Washington than it was in New York, where they used to live. There's not that much to do in Washington? There are museums, all of the monuments, a bowling alley, movie theatres, a basketball court and tennis court. And if they go to Mar-A-Lago so often for Barron, which Trump hasn't said but you seem to be inferring, couldn't it have been best for the Obama girls to see their aunt and cousins in Hawaii over holidays, and Trump still chose to criticize him repeatedly?

He couldn't be mostly working and planning for the future from the White House instead of Mar-A-Lago? He's the one who said the President should stay at the White House and not fly around or leave.

Quoting BmoreOrioles:

Quoting francee89: Trump chose to criticize Obama for golfing and vacations, and is now choosing to engage in the same behavior. It's exceedingly hypocritical of him.

I see it as very much the same. Vacation is vacation, whether it's taken in a two week span or in smaller weekend increments. There's absolutely nothing stopping them from being together as a family at the White House, particularly when Trump said a year ago he'd be too busy to leave and implied it was wrong for the President to be flying around. I'm just holding him to his own freely set standard.  

It's cold in Washington, and not that much to do this time of year, and Barron has no friends there; as he is finishing up the school year in New York.

I do not begrudge the Trumps doing what is best for their young son. Barron has a big adjustment to make in the very near future, and this is much more difficult for some children than others. 

It seems (to me) that Trump is mostly working, and planning for the future, even over dinner when he is on "vacation." 

NEWS

Trump Woos Dershowitz At Mar-A-Lago Schmoozefest

Alan Dershowitz just wanted to have a relaxing weekend, and as luck had it, it happened to take place at Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump’s Florida club, referred to by the president as the “Winter White House.”

And when at Mar-a-Lago, one can expect the president to drop by one’s table during dinner for a chat, especially if this certain guest was just on Fox News praising the president’s new travel ban executive order.

“He had some ideas on the Middle East he wanted to test out with me,” Dershowitz later told Politico. Speaking to Page Six, Dershowitz provided a more detailed account of his conversation with President Trump. “He picked the subjects. I didn’t have an agenda, but he had an agenda,” Dershowitz said. “He said, ‘I want to talk about this, this and that,’ and talked about six subjects or something,” including the travel ban, Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch, Israel, “wiretaps” and “leaks.”

But the master of the deal wasn’t out schmoozing with Dershowitz only for some feedback on his policies. He was out to get the vote of the Harvard law professor who is a longtime Democrat, though one always happy to criticize his own party. “He said, ‘If I can get you to vote for me in 2020, that’ll be the real accomplishment because you’ve probably never voted for a Republican,” Dershowitz said. “It’ll be very uphill, but I have an open mind.”

Read more: http://forward.com/fast-forward/366643/trump-woos-dershowitz-at-mar-a-lago-schmoozefest/

BmoreOrioles
by Silver Member on Mar. 22, 2017 at 9:28 AM


Quoting francee89: It's no colder in Washington than it was in New York, where they used to live. There's not that much to do in Washington? There are museums, all of the monuments, a bowling alley, movie theatres, a basketball court and tennis court. And if they go to Mar-A-Lago so often for Barron, which Trump hasn't said but you seem to be inferring, couldn't it have been best for the Obama girls to see their aunt and cousins in Hawaii over holidays, and Trump still chose to criticize him repeatedly? He couldn't be mostly working and planning for the future from the White House instead of Mar-A-Lago? He's the one who said the President should stay at the White House and not fly around or leave.
Quoting BmoreOrioles:


Quoting francee89: Trump chose to criticize Obama for golfing and vacations, and is now choosing to engage in the same behavior. It's exceedingly hypocritical of him. I see it as very much the same. Vacation is vacation, whether it's taken in a two week span or in smaller weekend increments. There's absolutely nothing stopping them from being together as a family at the White House, particularly when Trump said a year ago he'd be too busy to leave and implied it was wrong for the President to be flying around. I'm just holding him to his own freely set standard.  

It's cold in Washington, and not that much to do this time of year, and Barron has no friends there; as he is finishing up the school year in New York.

I do not begrudge the Trumps doing what is best for their young son. Barron has a big adjustment to make in the very near future, and this is much more difficult for some children than others. 

It seems (to me) that Trump is mostly working, and planning for the future, even over dinner when he is on "vacation." 

NEWS

Trump Woos Dershowitz At Mar-A-Lago Schmoozefest

Alan Dershowitz just wanted to have a relaxing weekend, and as luck had it, it happened to take place at Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump’s Florida club, referred to by the president as the “Winter White House.”

And when at Mar-a-Lago, one can expect the president to drop by one’s table during dinner for a chat, especially if this certain guest was just on Fox News praising the president’s new travel ban executive order.

“He had some ideas on the Middle East he wanted to test out with me,” Dershowitz later told Politico. Speaking to Page Six, Dershowitz provided a more detailed account of his conversation with President Trump. “He picked the subjects. I didn’t have an agenda, but he had an agenda,” Dershowitz said. “He said, ‘I want to talk about this, this and that,’ and talked about six subjects or something,” including the travel ban, Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch, Israel, “wiretaps” and “leaks.”

But the master of the deal wasn’t out schmoozing with Dershowitz only for some feedback on his policies. He was out to get the vote of the Harvard law professor who is a longtime Democrat, though one always happy to criticize his own party. “He said, ‘If I can get you to vote for me in 2020, that’ll be the real accomplishment because you’ve probably never voted for a Republican,” Dershowitz said. “It’ll be very uphill, but I have an open mind.”

Read more: http://forward.com/fast-forward/366643/trump-woos-dershowitz-at-mar-a-lago-schmoozefest/

If the Obamas would have made different choices for their daughters that would have been fine. I do not begrudge any president and first lady doing what they feel is best for their children. I would much rather have my tax dollars spend on that than some of the, positively, outrageous things that the government wastes money on.

I did not say (nor imply) that it is colder in Washington than it is in New York. However, I was obviously talking about outdoor activities for Barron to do with his friends. This is what the child is use to, frequently going to Florida in the winter, and his parents are trying to keep things as normal as possible for him. Yet, I did not say nor imply that this is the ONLY reason that the Trumps are going to Mar-a-Lago. 

Post the quote of Trump saying that a president should never leave the White House.



francee89
by Silver Member on Mar. 22, 2017 at 1:12 PM
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Except there's absolutely zero proof that Trump is spending so much time at Mar-A-Lago for Barron. And even if he were, the Obama girls would have been used to going to Hawaii to visit their aunt and grandmother over holidays and school breaks. Did that stop Trump from begruding Obama holiday trips to Hawaii? Nope. 

If Barron has difficulty with change, requiring frequent trips to Florida even after his father repeatedly said he wouldn't vacation and criticized his predecessor for it, shouldn't that have been something his parents considered before his father ran for President? It's hardly so cold in Washington that playing outside is impossible. And even if it was why are outdoor activities the only activities to do? Did Trump as an "except if it's for the kids" clause to his criticisms of Obama for vacations? Nope. 

Trump on video in March 2016: https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/843187579130449920

“There's no time for vacations. We're not going to be big on vacations. The White House is like this incredible place, it represents so much. And you’re there for a limited period of time — if you’re in the White House and you have so much work to do, why do you fly, why do you leave so much? Why? You know, you think you’d want to work, work, work — straighten it out, get it done, fix it up, make it great, and when you’re finished you can be proud. But boy are we a mess.”

Quoting BmoreOrioles:


Quoting francee89: It's no colder in Washington than it was in New York, where they used to live. There's not that much to do in Washington? There are museums, all of the monuments, a bowling alley, movie theatres, a basketball court and tennis court. And if they go to Mar-A-Lago so often for Barron, which Trump hasn't said but you seem to be inferring, couldn't it have been best for the Obama girls to see their aunt and cousins in Hawaii over holidays, and Trump still chose to criticize him repeatedly?

He couldn't be mostly working and planning for the future from the White House instead of Mar-A-Lago? He's the one who said the President should stay at the White House and not fly around or leave.

Quoting BmoreOrioles:

Quoting francee89: Trump chose to criticize Obama for golfing and vacations, and is now choosing to engage in the same behavior. It's exceedingly hypocritical of him.

I see it as very much the same. Vacation is vacation, whether it's taken in a two week span or in smaller weekend increments. There's absolutely nothing stopping them from being together as a family at the White House, particularly when Trump said a year ago he'd be too busy to leave and implied it was wrong for the President to be flying around. I'm just holding him to his own freely set standard.  

It's cold in Washington, and not that much to do this time of year, and Barron has no friends there; as he is finishing up the school year in New York.

I do not begrudge the Trumps doing what is best for their young son. Barron has a big adjustment to make in the very near future, and this is much more difficult for some children than others. 

It seems (to me) that Trump is mostly working, and planning for the future, even over dinner when he is on "vacation." 

NEWS

Trump Woos Dershowitz At Mar-A-Lago Schmoozefest

Alan Dershowitz just wanted to have a relaxing weekend, and as luck had it, it happened to take place at Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump’s Florida club, referred to by the president as the “Winter White House.”

And when at Mar-a-Lago, one can expect the president to drop by one’s table during dinner for a chat, especially if this certain guest was just on Fox News praising the president’s new travel ban executive order.

“He had some ideas on the Middle East he wanted to test out with me,” Dershowitz later told Politico. Speaking to Page Six, Dershowitz provided a more detailed account of his conversation with President Trump. “He picked the subjects. I didn’t have an agenda, but he had an agenda,” Dershowitz said. “He said, ‘I want to talk about this, this and that,’ and talked about six subjects or something,” including the travel ban, Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch, Israel, “wiretaps” and “leaks.”

But the master of the deal wasn’t out schmoozing with Dershowitz only for some feedback on his policies. He was out to get the vote of the Harvard law professor who is a longtime Democrat, though one always happy to criticize his own party. “He said, ‘If I can get you to vote for me in 2020, that’ll be the real accomplishment because you’ve probably never voted for a Republican,” Dershowitz said. “It’ll be very uphill, but I have an open mind.”

Read more: http://forward.com/fast-forward/366643/trump-woos-dershowitz-at-mar-a-lago-schmoozefest/

If the Obamas would have made different choices for their daughters that would have been fine. I do not begrudge any president and first lady doing what they feel is best for their children. I would much rather have my tax dollars spend on that than some of the, positively, outrageous things that the government wastes money on.

I did not say (nor imply) that it is colder in Washington than it is in New York. However, I was obviously talking about outdoor activities for Barron to do with his friends. This is what the child is use to, frequently going to Florida in the winter, and his parents are trying to keep things as normal as possible for him. Yet, I did not say nor imply that this is the ONLY reason that the Trumps are going to Mar-a-Lago. 

Post the quote of Trump saying that a president should never leave the White House.


ILive4This
by Silver Member on Mar. 22, 2017 at 1:21 PM

Remember when we all predicted this?

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