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So many words, so little sense.

Posted by on Apr. 24, 2017 at 1:24 PM
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7 Baffling Moments From Donald Trump’s AP Interview

So many words, so little sense.


President Donald Trump lied about his policy accomplishments, interrupted himself, and went off on a series of incoherent rants during a recent interview with The Associated Press’ Julie Pace.

The AP released part of the interview last week, but made a fuller transcript available late Sunday. You can read it in full here, but beware: It’s a doozy. The phrase “Donald Trump is unintelligible” was even a top trending topic on Twitter early Monday ― referring to the 16 instances where the AP marked parts of the transcript “unintelligible.” (Pace later told the Toronto Star that one of Trump’s aides was talking over him at those moments, and that the aide did not want their comments included in the transcript. The Star notes that “this is itself highly unusual.”)

Here are some of the interview’s most bizarre moments:

Shunning reality, Trump said he’s “mostly there” on fulfilling the promises of his first 100 days.

With the 100-day mark looming on April 29, the president has fallen short on every one of the legislative goals he set last year in his “100-day action plan.” Most notably, the Republican health care bill that Trump campaigned extensively for went down in flames. He has also failed to secure funding for the wall he’s hoping to build along the U.S.-Mexico border.

Trump claimed he’s never supported WikiLeaks, despite having repeatedly said otherwise.

When WikiLeaks published hacked Democratic Party emails during the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump brought it up at his rallies at every opportunity. But on Friday, when asked about reports that Attorney General Jeff Sessions is planning to pursue charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, Trump sang a different tune. 

“Never heard of Wikileaks, never heard of it,” he told the AP. “When Wikileaks came out, all I was just saying is, ‘Well, look at all this information here, this is pretty good stuff’... I don’t support or unsupport.”

This is what he said back in October:

Trump said the Electoral College is “very difficult for a Republican to win” because it’s “so skewed” toward Democrats (It’s not.

Tell that to former Presidents George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, etc. As Newsweek explained last year, the Electoral College may actually have a slight bias toward Republicans, since Democratic voters are more likely to be concentrated in major cities:

Increasingly, Democratic voters live in large urban areas, and are concentrated in several parts of the country. There are more of them, somewhat, but they live in relatively compact geographic areas. This gives Republicans a mild advantage in the electoral college; Republican voters are more spread out, and the Electoral College system potentially over-represents them slightly as a part of the overall population.

He admitted that when he bashed NATO during his presidential campaign, he didn’t actually know what the alliance did. He also erroneously said that “back when they did NATO there was no such thing as terrorism.”

NATO was founded in 1949, but terrorism as a concept has been around for thousands of years. The term itself is rooted in the bloodshed of 18th-century post-revolution France.

Describing a meeting with Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), Trump offered the following word salad:

“Well he said, you’ll be the greatest president in the history of, but you know what, I’ll take that also, but that you could be. But he said, will be the greatest president but I would also accept the other. In other words, if you do your job, but I accept that. Then I watched him interviewed and it was like he never even was here. It’s incredible. I watched him interviewed a week later and it’s like he was never in my office. And you can even say that.”

Trump was talking, sort of, about an encounter he had with Cummings in March. According to Trump, the Maryland Democrat told him he’d be one of the greatest presidents in U.S. history. According to Cummings, that’s not exactly how it went down.

He claimed the U.S.-Mexico border wall is “not going to be that expensive.”

Trump’s own estimate of the wall’s cost has dramatically shifted in the nearly two years since he first proposed it. Sometimes it’s $4 billion, sometimes it’s $12 billion. In his interview with the AP, Trump said “I think I’ll do it for $10 billion or less.” But experts, including in a Department of Homeland Security internal report, have suggested the actual cost could be over $20 billion.

He abruptly interrupted himself to offer Pace a soda.

Presented without comment:

TRUMP: [Chinese] President Xi [Jinping], we have a, like, a really great relationship. For me to call him a currency manipulator and then say, “By the way, I’d like you to solve the North Korean problem,” doesn’t work. So you have to have a certain flexibility, Number One. Number Two, from the time I took office till now, you know, it’s a very exact thing. It’s not like generalities. Do you want a Coke or anything?

AP: I’m OK, thank you.

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by Platinum Member on Apr. 24, 2017 at 1:30 PM
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Waiting for the interpreters to interpret what he said. You know his supporters who gobble up his vomit, and regurgitate it back, while trying to make sense of what he said!

by KayGee on Apr. 24, 2017 at 1:38 PM
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I can't imagine reading the whole transcript.  My brain hurts from this article alone.  Oy.

by Gold Member on Apr. 24, 2017 at 1:40 PM

Some more:

1. Trump remembers and then immediately forgets how many missiles he fired at Syria:

“When it came time to, as an example, send out the 59 missiles, the Tomahawks in Syria. I’m saying to myself, ‘You know, this is more than just like, 79 missiles. This is death that’s involved,’” he said.

2. Trump talks about watching CNN, then boasts of not watching CNN: Trump, a renowned television addict, explained to Pace that he never thought he had “the ability” to do what he said he had done: stop watching CNN, a network he says is unfair to him. But Pace pointed out that he had just talked, in this same interview, about watching CNN. (Those remarks aren’t in the transcript; Pace says they came during an off-the-record portion.)

“Where? Where?” Trump asked.

“Two minutes ago,” Pace informed him.

Trump’s bewildering response: “No, they treat me so badly. No, I just said that. No, I, what’d I say, I stopped watching them. But I don’t watch CNN anymore.”

3. Trump says he doesn’t talk to European leaders about the Iran deal, then that he did:

Trump continued to gripe about the Iran nuclear deal the U.S. and other world powers struck with Iran during the tenure of Barack Obama. Asked what Germany’s Angela Merkel or the United Kingdom’s Theresa May say about the deal, Trump responded, “I don’t talk to them about it.” But when Pace followed up — “You don’t talk to them about the Iran deal?” — Trump quickly said he does talk to them about it.

“I mention it, but it’s very personal when I talk to them, you know, it’s confidential,” he said.

4. Trump disassociates himself from his own “Contract With The American Voter”:

Two weeks before voting day, Trump issued a “Contract With The American Voter” that listed all of the things he promised to accomplish in his first 100 days. The contract includes his very own signature. But when Pace asked whether he should be held accountable for the promises in the contract, Trump suggested he had nothing to do with it.

“Somebody, yeah, somebody put out the concept of a 100-day plan,” he said.

5. Trump explains he only called NATO obsolete because he didn’t know what he was talking about:

Trump rattled U.S. allies with his insistence as a candidate that the NATO military alliance was “obsolete.” He explained to Pace that he only did so because he was “not knowing much about NATO,” which he now knows much about. (“People don’t go around asking about NATO,” he said, “if I’m building a building in Manhattan, right?”)

The explanation is especially outlandish because of what Trump said at a CNN town hall at the time: “I understand this stuff. I mean, I really do understand this stuff. NATO is obsolete.”

6. Trump falsely claims terrorism didn’t exist before 1949:

Trump has long falsely claimed that NATO did not start dealing with terrorism until he complained as a 2016 candidate that it was not doing so. This time, he added a new whopper: “You know, back when they did NATO there was no such thing as terrorism.”

7. Trump uses the phrase “a super-duper”:

The president insisted that his giant wall on the Mexican border would cost less than $10 billion — but more, perhaps, “if I do a super-duper, higher, better, better security, everything else.”

8. Trump suggests his first address to Congress was one of the best speeches in the history of the House of Representatives:

“A lot of the people have said that, some people said it was the single best speech ever made in that chamber,” he said.

9. Trump says “most people don’t even think of NAFTA in terms of Canada”:

There are a mere three countries in the North American Free Trade Agreement: the U.S., Canada and Mexico. But Trump, long obsessed with Mexico, only recently started talking about Canada and NAFTA, and he has a tendency to project his own thinking, or non-thinking, onto the broader population.

It wasn’t his only odd claim on the subject: He also said Wisconsin and New York dairy farmers are “getting killed by NAFTA,” though Canadian dairy isn’t part of the deal at all.

10. Trump repeats his lie about F-35 savings:

The U.S. government was on track to cut the price of the troubled F-35 fighter jet program regardless of who was elected president. Trump, though, has falsely claimedat least a dozen times that his superlative negotiating skills are single-handedly responsible for these savings.

“Because of me,” he told Pace. “I mean, because that’s what I do.”

11. Trump falsely claims he had never heard of WikiLeaks until last year:

WikiLeaks has been the subject of major controversy since it published secret U.S. military videos and documents in 2010. Trump, though, claimed he had “never heard of WikiLeaks”— “never heard of it,” he repeated — until the organization released emails hacked from Democratic officials during the 2016 campaign.

At best, this would be a confession of ignorance; in fact, it is untrue. CNN’s Andrew Kaczynski uncovered a 2010 interview in which he called WikiLeaks “disgraceful.”

12. Trump says he thought the press would get friendlier when he became the Republican nominee:

For reasons entirely unknown, Trump said he thought the media would get softer on him once he won the Republican primary and became the party’s general election candidate.

“I said, you know, when I won, I said, ‘Well the one thing good is now I’ll get good press.’ And it got worse. So that was one thing that a little bit of a surprise to me,” he said.

13. Trump calls the media “very stupid” for pointing out his China flip-flop:

Trump repeatedly said during his campaign that he would immediately designate China as a currency manipulator for deliberately devaluing its yuan — even though every expert pointed out that China was not doing so any more. Trump flip-flopped two weeks ago, finally agreeing that China is not attempting devaluation … but told Pace that the media is the ignorant one here.

“You know, very specific formula. You would think it’s like generalities, it’s not. They have — they’ve actually — their currency’s gone up,” he said.

14. Trump insults show he just booked interview on, boasts he got the best ratings since 9/11:

Shortly before this transcript was released on Sunday, Politico reported that Trump would do an interview this week with John Dickerson, host of the CBS show Face the Nation. In the AP interview, Trump twice disparagingly called it “Deface the Nation” — and bragged that one of his appearances on the show earned the best ratings since the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks.

“It’s the highest for Deface the Nation since the World Trade Center. Since the World Trade Center came down. It’s a tremendous advantage,” he said.

15. Trump claims the Electoral College is biased toward Democrats:

Republicans can have a hard time in the Electoral College because they are unpopular with many Americans. Trump, though, portrayed the existence of liberal states as a kind of systemic unfairness.

“You start off by losing in New York and California, no matter who it is. If, if Abe Lincoln came back to life, he would lose New York and he would lose California,” he said. “The Electoral College is so skewed in favour of a Democrat that it’s very, very hard.”

16. Trump “whatever”s critics who worry that he’s too quick to declare incidents to be acts of terrorism:

“By the way, I’m 10-0 for that,” he said. “I’ve called every one of them. Every time they said I called it way too early and then it turns out I’m ... Whatever. Whatever. In the meantime, I’m here and they’re not.”

17. Trump repeats his obviously false claim about a Democratic congressman:

Trump met earlier in April with Democratic Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, who has been highly critical of him. He told Pace, as he told others earlier, that Cummings told him he would be the greatest president of all time.

“He said you will be — in front of five, six people — he said you will be the greatest president in the history of this country,” Trump repeated.

Pace had to point out to him that Cummings’s hypothetical was used to couch a sharp rebuke. “I have said repeatedly,” Cummings told the Washington Post, “that he could be a great president if, if, if he takes steps to truly represent all Americans rather than continuing on the divisive and harmful path he is currently on.”

18. Trump suggests we should count differently:

Trump twice called the 100-days figure an “artificial barrier” — and suggested that he is only at 60 days on health care, since the first 30-ish days don’t really count.

“I’ve been here 92 days but I’ve only been working on the health care, you know I had to get like a little bit of grounding right? Health care started after 30 day(s), so I’ve been working on health care for 60 days,” he said.

19. “Unintelligible”:

Sixteen times during the interview, the AP recorded a Trump remark as “unintelligible,” a notation that is highly unusual for a one-on-one interview in a silent setting like the Oval Office.

Pace explained to the Star that one of Trump’s aides, who did not want his or her comments included in the transcript, kept talking at the same time as him. This is itself highly unusual.

by AllieCat on Apr. 24, 2017 at 1:41 PM

I can't help but giggle a bit.

It's disheartening, embarrassing for our Nation and down right scary that this man can clearly lie like this..........contradict himself on a regular basis and pat himself on the back at the same time.

He is a fool of foolish proportions.

by Gold Member on Apr. 24, 2017 at 1:44 PM
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Trump on the evolving healthcare plan: "The plan gets better and better and better and it's gotten really really good and a lot of people are liking it a lot"

He talks like an 8 year old trying to BS their way through a book report. I don't know if that or his verbal tic of saying "most people don't know" or "a lot of people are saying" where he projects his ignorance of or thoughts on a subject onto other people is more annoying.

by KayGee on Apr. 24, 2017 at 2:04 PM
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Alex Baldwin was on Howard Stern last week and said he "does" Trump as if he only has a 100-word thesaurus.  So when he says a word like "terrific", he says it twice and then hesitates as if going through his word rolodex for a bigger and better word, only to come up short due to his lack of vocabulary skills.  I am completely paraphrasing here, but that's the gist of it.

Quoting francee89:

Trump on the evolving healthcare plan: "The plan gets better and better and better and it's gotten really really good and a lot of people are liking it a lot"

He talks like an 8 year old trying to BS their way through a book report. I don't know if that or his verbal tic of saying "most people don't know" or "a lot of people are saying" where he projects his ignorance of or thoughts on a subject onto other people is more annoying.

“Life they say, can turn on a dime. And in a world that constantly shifts beneath our feet, the only thing we can know for certain is how we feel, the love we have, the fear we hide from, the pain we push away. Give it a voice, and the rewards are piece of mind and a peaceful heart.”
by Ruby Member on Apr. 24, 2017 at 2:37 PM

The most inarticulate human being I've ever seen.

Quoting francee89:

Trump on the evolving healthcare plan: "The plan gets better and better and better and it's gotten really really good and a lot of people are liking it a lot"

He talks like an 8 year old trying to BS their way through a book report. I don't know if that or his verbal tic of saying "most people don't know" or "a lot of people are saying" where he projects his ignorance of or thoughts on a subject onto other people is more annoying.

by Platinum Member on Apr. 24, 2017 at 2:56 PM

Oh please help save us from him...anyone?

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by Ruby Member on Apr. 24, 2017 at 3:01 PM
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by Silver Member on Apr. 24, 2017 at 4:45 PM

It is hard to tell. Does he have 2 personalities? Is it dementia? Is he a truth teller and a liar? Does he live in a make believe world of his own? How do his followers follow someone who doesn't know from one minute to the next what he is talking about?

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