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UPDATE AGAIN: SAILORS IDENTIFIED; DONATION LINKS, VIDEO USS Fitzgerald returning to base.

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REMOVED ORIG ARTICLE ABOUT THE COLLISION FOR UPDATES.

Sailors identified

The U.S. Navy has identified the seven sailors who died in a collision between the USS Fitzgerald and a container ship off Japan on Saturday.

They are:

— Gunner's Mate Seaman Dakota Kyle Rigsby, 19, from Palmyra, Virginia

— Yeoman 3rd Class Shingo Alexander Douglass, 25, from San Diego, California

— Sonar Technician 3rd Class Ngoc T Truong Huynh, 25, from Oakville, Connecticut

— Gunner's Mate 2nd Class Noe Hernandez, 26, from Weslaco, Texas

— Fire Controlman 2nd Class Carlosvictor Ganzon Sibayan, 23, from Chula Vista, California

— Personnel Specialist 1st Class Xavier Alec Martin, 24, from Halethorpe, Maryland

— Fire Controlman 1st Class Gary Leo Rehm Jr., 37, from Elyria, Ohio

FOLLOW THE LINK BELOW TO READ THE TIMELINE OF EVENTS and an EXPERIENCE BY A SAILOR ON BOARD. 

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/hawaii/articles/2017-06-18/the-latest-japans-leader-sends-sympathy-message-to-trump



This is being shared in our Navy Mom Community, we only know that it's from someone on base. 

"It's a somber day here in Yokosuka. Our base is mourning the loss of 7 sailors, and the grief is palpable. It is nothing short of devastating to drive by the pier and see such a damaged, mangled ship, knowing that it housed so many brave men and women who acted quickly and heroically in the face of danger.

We are all upset and beside ourselves, feelings not made any easier by the gray, rainy weather hanging over us today. It's hard not to react to this situation with tears- this could have been any of us, and it hurts more than words can say to see our friends hurt and our sailors deceased. 

But we are also a community. Donations have poured in so quickly and in such volume that their acceptance has been paused. So many meals have been cooked and distributed, toiletries purchased and dropped off, uniforms and clothes donated to the sailors who lost everything to the flooded berthings that after a mere 24 hours, all immediate physical needs have been met. It has been incredible to watch my fellow spouses work quickly and expeditiously in the face of a crisis.

Many of you have asked how you can help. Organizations such as the Navy Marine Corps Relief Society, USO, and Red Cross have been working round the clock to provide care and goods to the USS Fitzgerald sailors and families. If you feel so compelled, a donation to any one of these organizations can go toward helping either our current situation or future crises that require immediate attention:

http://www.nmcrs.org
https://www.uso.org
http://www.redcross.org/hp/0617-1 "


From the base NEX:
Thanks to your generosity, we have NWUs, boots, undershirts, socks, underwear, PT gear and civilian clothes fully stocked for our #USSFITZGERALD Sailors. Sailors, please come see us today til 1500, tomorrow 0900-1200, Tuesday 0930-1300. We'll post additional times if possible. ***UPDATE*** - due to the overwhelming response from the community, we will be distributed donated goods on Monday. We are taking a pause on the donations until further notice. Thank you for everything you've given Yokosuka!

by on Jun. 16, 2017 at 6:29 PM
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Verrine
by Bronze Member on Jun. 19, 2017 at 7:04 AM
2 moms liked this

When I see the names listed, I am reminded that sailors of different nationalities and complexions serve our country. They are the children of immigrants and some may be immigrants themselves. 

Momtoone07
by Silver Member on Jun. 19, 2017 at 8:13 AM
Exactly. A destroyer is going to move better than a cargo ship. The whole thing is so unfortunate. Seven lives lost. So sad.

Quoting UnoDuoTres:

Yup. On the open ocean it's a little more complicated, but the one thing that really is totally uncomplicated is that if you are sat in the way of a 30k tonne ship that's heading straight for you - you move.

Quoting Momtoone07: I boat on lakes, raft rivers and sail in the ocean. The rule of thumb is the bigger vessel has the right of way because, quite simply, they are less maneuverable.

Quoting UnoDuoTres:

The container ship did turn around, but it was on a straight line course for 25 minutes prior to the collision. You cannot at all infer intent from the tracking and it is frankly asinine to assume that the ship deliberately tried to ram the destroyer. And it takes nothing away from the point that a ship like USS Fitzgerald should have had no problem whatsoever in not colliding with a container ship.

To quote from marritime bulletin

As in most collision accidents, most probably in this accident too, both ships are responsible for the collision, to a more or less degree. Navies in most cases, are more to blame, if you ask me. Navy ships have a specially assigned sailor for each and every task, from watching to plotting maneuvers. Navy ships are always ready to reverse engines or change course. Merchant ships are resembling big passenger jets – take-off, straight flight, landing, with as few maneuvers as possible. Their manning is based mainly on monetary considerations, crews are severely limited. The bigger is the merchant ship, the more difficult and unpredictable is her maneuvering. Merchant marine needs as obstacles-free (including such obstacles, as Navies or fishing vessels, especially coastal boats) and wide lanes, as possible.

Quoting turtle68:

Now Im reading that the massive city sized cargo ship....wait for it....did a U turn and deliberately hit the destroyer.  This makes even LESS sense, but apparently theyve come up with some tracking that "proves" it.

sigh.

So friggin hard to believe anything any more.

Quoting UnoDuoTres:

Me too.

There's som eserious incompetence for a destroyer to not be aware of a container ship that was on a steady course for 25 minutes prior to the collision.

It's the responsibility of a more manouverable ship to avoid a less manouverable one. That places the collision squarely as being the Destroyers fault. 

With the public information available now, the most likely scenario to me is that the destroyer was not keeping a watch and either had its radar shut down or was not monitoring it. 

The crew of the destroyer need to be answering some pretty pointed questions about how their actioins lead to the deaths of 7 US Navy personnel and damage to a container ship and their own ship. The container ship will also have a very good case for claiming compensation to pay for repairs and distress caused to the crew. The Japanese should also be compensated for the costs they incurred in responding to the incident.

Quoting turtle68:

Im still scratching my head at HOW the destroyer did not see the cargo ship...those things are HUGE!!  

ILive4This
by Gold Member on Jun. 19, 2017 at 2:53 PM

He's a place holder until prez gets off his ass.

Quoting billsfan1104:

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http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/navybio.asp?bioID=477 Yes we do have one.
Quoting ILive4This:

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billsfan1104
by Ruby Member on Jun. 19, 2017 at 3:48 PM

Your tweet is still wrong.

Quoting ILive4This:

He's a place holder until prez gets off his ass.

Quoting billsfan1104:

Mobile Photo

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/navybio.asp?bioID=477 Yes we do have one.
Quoting ILive4This:

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HYPOCRITE, n. One who, professing virtues that he does not respect, secures the advantage of seeming to be what he despises.


KenneMaw
by Bronze Member on Jun. 19, 2017 at 4:46 PM

My heart is heavy for the loss of these fine men.

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