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We asked 8 Senate Republicans to explain what their health bill is trying to do

Posted by on Jun. 17, 2017 at 9:21 PM
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We asked 8 Senate Republicans to explain what their health bill is trying to do

by on Jun. 17, 2017 at 9:21 PM
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by Gold Member on Jun. 17, 2017 at 9:21 PM

Sen. John Boozman on the mechanisms to bring down premiums: “It’s working together and coming up with a bill that does do that”

Sen. John Boozman of Arkansas, right, at a health care rally for Medicare prescription Part D in 2006 
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Jeff Stein

What do you think this health care bill will accomplish? How will it help people in America with their health insurance?

John Boozman

Well, right now when I go back to Arkansas — we’ve got so many people in Arkansas, premiums have gone up 128 percent in the past four years. We have all kinds of people in a situation where if they’re fortunate enough to afford the premium, they’ve got $5[,000] to $10,000 deductibles. And so hopefully we’ll deal with some of those problems

Jeff Stein

How does this bill do that?

John Boozman

Well, it makes it such that it’s more affordable. So that’s really what we’re working through now. We don’t have a bill yet; we’re working hard to come to an agreement so we can solve some of those problems.

Jeff Stein

Why will this bill reduce premiums? How will it lead to the outcome you’re describing?

John Boozman

Well, again, like I said, that’s what we’re working through here. I’m not going to negotiate the bill now. We’re in a situation where that is the outcome.

I know that the course we’re going down is simply not sustainable. The other problem we’ve got is that premiums were held down through the election; the premiums, in my state, the increase will be at least 20 to 25 percent. That’s what the insurance commissioners are telling me. I think we’re on an unsustainable course.

Jeff Stein

But I’m curious why you believe this bill will fix that problem. What’s the mechanism for fixing it?

John Boozman

It’s working together and coming up with a bill that does do that. Because we’re in a situation with Obamacare that, again, we don’t have a sustainable product.

Jeff Stein

Why is cutting Medicaid necessary?

John Boozman

I’m not going to argue with you. Who do you represent?

Jeff Stein

Vox-dot-com. It’s a website. I’m just trying to understand how the bill works. That’s it.

John Boozman

Well, we don’t have a bill. That’s what we’re working on. The reason we’re working really hard to come up with a bill is to solve some of the problems of Obamacare.

Because of the problems I outlined, we have a lot of people in a situation with increased premiums, increased deductibles. If you’re an Arkansan, you have a $5,000 deductible, you really don’t have insurance. You have catastrophic insurance, and after that it’s not such that you don’t have everything paid for — it’s probably an 80-20 match after that. So these are real problems that affect real people. We’re trying to come up with a solution that makes things more affordable.

We come up with a bill, and then Health and Human Services — [Secretary of Health and Human Services] Dr. [Tom] Price is working hard — the bill that was written, Obamacare, the way it was written, they have a lot of flexibility. We’re looking for ways to put more flexibility in the system. We have a bunch of counties next year that simply won’t only not have limited competition; they’re going to be in a situation where … there…

Jeff Stein

I know the bill isn’t done, but what do you think in the general Republican overhaul — what do you think Obamacare is doing right now that isn’t allowing these problems to be taken care of? What is your hope for what the Republican bill will do to change the problem you’re identifying?

John Boozman

I think Obamacare, the problem with it is there is nothing in it to drive down and contain costs. That was the problem we had going into health care when we were trying to fix it, was affordability.

Jeff Stein

So you think this will drive down costs. How?

John Boozman

Again, that’s what we’re trying to work through. Identifying the solutions that will work.

Sen. Roger Wicker of Mississippi: the AHCA “will encourage more freedom”

Senate Lawmakers Speak To Press After Weekly Policy Luncheons
Sen. Roger Wicker (R-MS).
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Jeff Stein

What do you think this health care bill would solve?

Roger Wicker

What do I think of the health care bill in general?

Jeff Stein

What problems do you think it would take care of in America?

Roger Wicker

Oh, goodness. Well.

It will, well, encourage more freedom by eliminating mandates at the individual level and the employer. It will cut taxes. It will moderate prices for premiums and inject some competition that is sadly lacking. And it will save money. It will rescue a system that is teetering on the brink.

Jeff Stein

How will it rescue a system teetering on the brink? Because you think the tax cuts will allow for premiums to come down? How?

Roger Wicker

It’s teetering because the exchanges are failing. They’re not acting as they were intended. And as a result, insurers are dropping out. There are counties with no option.

Jeff Stein

I want to understand why you think the bill will help the marketplaces.

Roger Wicker

For the reasons I’m giving you. A very comprehensive answer, I think.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska is frustrated. “I want greater access and lower costs. So far, I'm not seeing that happen.”

Lisa MurkowskiBill Clark / Getty Images

Dylan Scott, Vox

What do you want this health care plan to achieve?

Lisa Murkowski

I want greater access and lower costs. So far, I'm not seeing that happen.

Dylan Scott

How confident are you that the plan under discussion would do that, compared to Obamacare?

Lisa Murkowski

This is the big issue as I'm talking to folks back home. I continue to hear stories of great frustration. Increasing premium costs. Increasing share of deductibles. Decreasing access. They know what they don't like.

They know what they do like. They do like the fact that they have gotten coverage for preexisting conditions. They do like the fact that they're able to keep their kids on [their insurance]. There's some positives and then some bad things.

When you ask Alaskans about their stories and what they want, they need increased affordability. Because we are slammed in every category, with premiums and the cost of care. Everything. They wanted decreased costs, increased access.

Dylan Scott

Are you seeing provisions in the plan that's being discussed that would achieve that?

Lisa Murkowski

The plan the House laid down does not help Alaska. It does not help decrease their costs, and it does not help increase their access.

So the question is whether or not what is being built on the Senate side is going to better reflect that. My hope is that it will.

I can't show to my constituents back home anything concrete because we don't have anything. We've been talking about ideas. But for instance, if you are going to eliminate Medicaid expansion or even if you're going to wind down Medicaid expansion, that's not increasing access.

I think the requirements that I'm looking for and my constituents are asking for are pretty basic. My task is going to be to make sure that those basic asks are met.

Dylan Scott

Do you have any specific metrics in mind? How do you evaluate whether a plan is going to lower costs or increase access?

Lisa Murkowski

It was pretty easy for the state to run the numbers under the House-passed bill.

As the president was quick to point out the other day, the situation in Alaska is that we've seen a 203 percent increase in premiums. That speaks to the imperative of why you need to repeal and replace the [Affordable Care Act].

But what needs to be shared is that if the House-passed bill were actually going to play, the increase to Alaskans, for a 50-year-old male earning $50,000 a year, he would see his premiums hike by 500 percent. So it's all a matter of scale.

I don't know what it is that will actually come forward. This has been part of my frustration. What's the Senate bill going to look like? I don't know.

I've got people calling my office, I've got people coming online to protest. They're saying, "Don't vote for this!" Well, what is this? We don't know what this is yet.

Dylan Scott

I know some senators have tried to say you're starting from scratch and building your own plan. But it seems like in a lot of important ways, the Senate is really just tinkering with and trying to rework the House plan.

Lisa Murkowski

But again, I don't know that. Because none of us have actually seen language.

Is it the framework of the House-passed bill and then we're filling in our own details? I don't know. We just don't know.

My constituents expect me to know, and if we had utilized the process that goes through a committee, I would be able to answer not only your questions but my constituents' questions.

Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas says “the most important objective” is to lower premiums

How would Ted Cruz perform in a general election?Andrew Burton / Getty Images

Dylan Scott

Stepping back, what is the most important thing for this bill to achieve? How is it going to make things better?

Ted Cruz

The most important objective in repealing Obamacare is to lower health insurance premiums.

The biggest reason so many millions of people are frustrated and angry with Obamacare is that it’s caused premiums to skyrocket, making health insurance unaffordable. That is a problem the federal government caused, and we need to fix that.

Dylan Scott

Do you think you can lower premiums for everyone, though? Because obviously there are some policies that could lower premiums for some people but might not for others.

Ted Cruz

Under Obamacare, the average family’s premiums have increased over $5,000 a year. Every week, when I go back to Texas, I hear from Texans who say, “I can’t afford health insurance for my family.” That is an enormous problem, and it is the direct legacy of the failed policy of Obamacare.

Dylan Scott

So the idea is that it needs to average out to a premium decrease, even if some people might see higher premiums?

Ted Cruz

We should work toward giving consumers more choices, more options, more competition, and as a result lower prices that are more affordable.

Sen. Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia says “people are hurting here.” Will GOP bill help? “That’s the goal.”

CapitoBill Clark / Getty Images

Dylan Scott

What do you want this bill to achieve, and how do you think it’s going to improve health care in America?

Shelley Moore Capito

First of all, we’ve got to stabilize the market of the places that have no coverage for the individual market, whose premiums are skyrocketing, whose deductibles are through the roof. This is a real phenomenon. Somehow we’ve lost sight of the fact that people are hurting here, and if we don’t act relatively quickly, the whole system could collapse.

Dylan Scott

So how do you evaluate, what metrics do you use to evaluate whether it achieves that or not?

Shelley Moore Capito

It’s simple. It’s the affordability, protect people with preexisting conditions, protect people with Medicaid. Try to figure out the differences between the Medicaid expansion states and the ones that didn’t expand Medicaid. These are the same principles we’ve been talking about because they’re better principles than what the ACA is giving us.

Dylan Scott

Are you confident that the Republican bill would do that in a way Obamacare has not?

Shelley Moore Capito

That’s the goal.

Dylan Scott

Right. But do you feel confident that it actually will?

Shelley Moore Capito

Unless I’m confident we can do that, I don’t know how we can move forward in good conscience.

Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio: “I’m not suggesting premiums will go down, but they won’t go up as much”

Dylan Scott

To step back a bit on this debate, what fundamental goal do you want this legislation to achieve? How is it going to improve health care?

Rob Portman

We’ve got to fix a real problem, which is that the Affordable Care Act has not worked in a couple really fundamental respects. One is you do have insurers who simply cannot operate in this market, so they’re pulling out and they’ve been losing money for some time and cost-shifting onto the employer-based plans and other private plans. So it’s already been a problem.

Now they’re at the point where they feel as though they can’t make enough money to stay out of bankruptcy, so they’re leaving. My state just got hit with 20 of those counties, but other states have been dealing with this. So that’s obviously one of the big issues, and that’s because this thing is not structured properly.

The second, and a more fundamental one for everybody I represent, it’s the cost of health care. Premiums and copays and deductibles have skyrocketed compared to what was promised.

Dylan Scott

You guys have gone beyond stabilizing the market, into overhauling Medicaid, reworking the financial assistance. How confident are you that this plan will really achieve those goals?

Rob Portman

I think we can help stabilize the market and have some impact on the cost increases. I’m not suggesting premiums will go down, but they won’t go up as much.

On Medicaid, you’re right, that’s a whole different issue. There was expansion in the ACA, but the Medicaid system itself continued as before. That’s a separate issue, which is where I’m focused, to make sure we aren’t pulling the rug out from under people.

ReadWriteLuv
by Khaleesi on Jun. 17, 2017 at 9:34 PM
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Thank you so much Lisa Murkowski, for providing one of the only sane-sounding, direct, level-headed answers I've seen from the Republicans since all of this started. She actually answered the questions, rather than give canned, press-release sound bites.
Bookwormy
by Ruby Member on Jun. 18, 2017 at 1:46 AM
They haven't a clue what they are discussing because they haven't seen a bill as off yet. They can say what they want out of a potential bill but not much else.
stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Jun. 18, 2017 at 8:24 AM
Sounds like bullshit from every single one of them. When they complain about Obamacare they are strong...when it comes time to talk about this bill it's vague generalities and nonsense. They don't know what is there. I suspect it's nothing more than cutting out funding and regulations. Then we will be back to where we were before...but worse.
JTROX
by Platinum Member on Jun. 18, 2017 at 8:32 AM

Image result for pelosi pass it to find out what's in it

UnoDuoTres
by Gold Member on Jun. 18, 2017 at 8:36 AM

So you agree that proposing a bill where there is no detail as to what is contained in it is a bad idea?

At least with the ACA, there were a significant number of hearings over a fair period of time before it went to a vote. The Republicans here are proposing to put it up for a vote without even publishing the proposed text before the session with the vote.

Quoting JTROX:

Image result for pelosi pass it to find out what's in it


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