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Posted by on Aug. 20, 2017 at 9:35 AM
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How has the tearing down of statues and protests done anything to unite our country? How has it changed anything? Where should it end?
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Donna6503
by Platinum Member on Aug. 20, 2017 at 10:04 AM
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Why should we even pay any more reverence to the Confederacy than we already have ... making history have these men turned into myths and legends isn't help our culture and our values our in any sort of fashion.
Kwitcherbetchen
by Silver Member on Aug. 20, 2017 at 10:06 AM
Why now? How has it changed anything? All I see is a slippery slope we have started on that seemingly has no end.

Quoting Donna6503: Why should we even pay any more reverence to the Confederacy than we already have ... making history have these men turned into myths and legends isn't help our culture and our values our in any sort of fashion.
Donna6503
by Platinum Member on Aug. 20, 2017 at 10:09 AM
Because, yesterday is gone, and that was the moment they should have been torn down.

Quoting Kwitcherbetchen: Why now? How has it changed anything? All I see is a slippery slope we have started on that seemingly has no end.

Quoting Donna6503: Why should we even pay any more reverence to the Confederacy than we already have ... making history have these men turned into myths and legends isn't help our culture and our values our in any sort of fashion.
Kwitcherbetchen
by Silver Member on Aug. 20, 2017 at 10:11 AM
If yesterday is gone and we shouldn't look back then all monuments and symbols of the past should be removed.

Quoting Donna6503: Because, yesterday is gone, and that was the moment they should have been torn down.

Quoting Kwitcherbetchen: Why now? How has it changed anything? All I see is a slippery slope we have started on that seemingly has no end.

Quoting Donna6503: Why should we even pay any more reverence to the Confederacy than we already have ... making history have these men turned into myths and legends isn't help our culture and our values our in any sort of fashion.
CannotCount
by It's Misspelt on Aug. 20, 2017 at 10:11 AM
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Seems to be bringing a lot of people together to put up a stronger front against racism and hate groups. Obviously some people won't like that.
Seems backwards to blame the people fighting racism for the divide.
Kwitcherbetchen
by Silver Member on Aug. 20, 2017 at 10:18 AM
Really? So where does it all end? Somehow I don't see this ending with everyone sitting in a circle singing Kumbaya.

Quoting CannotCount: Seems to be bringing a lot of people together to put up a stronger front against racism and hate groups. Obviously some people won't like that.
Seems backwards to blame the people fighting racism for the divide.
KaleaLani
by Silver Member on Aug. 20, 2017 at 10:23 AM
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What does it accomplish by keeping them up? If it's history, there are better ways to learn it. If it's a memorial, move it to a cemetery. If it's nothing but a reminder to specific groups that there was a time that the group was dominated by the other then it's time to get rid of that reminder. Talking about the nation healing ... You have to remove the splinter or it will just fester under the skin.

There's no need to keep up second place trophies honoring the leaders of a nation that no longer exists. Especially not on public or government grounds. You can argue "states rights" and "southern heritage" all you want but the very basic fact is the south is part of a bigger whole and the biggest claim to that war's fame was the idea that one man could own another because of the color of his skin.

These symbols are obsolete. It's time to move forward as a united country. Replace them with something everyone has in common or just get rid of them and plant a tree.
CannotCount
by It's Misspelt on Aug. 20, 2017 at 10:23 AM
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I don't know how it ends. Do you see allowing overt racism to continue leading to happy Kumbaya circles? Racism is about division at its core, it's not bringing anyone together.

Quoting Kwitcherbetchen: Really? So where does it all end? Somehow I don't see this ending with everyone sitting in a circle singing Kumbaya.

Quoting CannotCount: Seems to be bringing a lot of people together to put up a stronger front against racism and hate groups. Obviously some people won't like that.
Seems backwards to blame the people fighting racism for the divide.
PamR
by Ruby Member on Aug. 20, 2017 at 10:25 AM


Quoting Kwitcherbetchen: Why now? How has it changed anything? All I see is a slippery slope we have started on that seemingly has no end.
Quoting Donna6503: Why should we even pay any more reverence to the Confederacy than we already have ... making history have these men turned into myths and legends isn't help our culture and our values our in any sort of fashion.

One would hope we live in a time when we can examine our history as it really happened, and not in some cleaned-up fantasy way.  When we think about how that history and those monuments impact all our citizens, not just some.  When we decide not to glorify a cause that was inherently evil.  How about that?

Kwitcherbetchen
by Silver Member on Aug. 20, 2017 at 10:31 AM
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Seems only one side is being sanitized. Sherman was a hateful war monger who raped and pillaged the south to the point where he removed women and children to the north from their home and families.Should any monuments to him be removed?

Quoting PamR:

Quoting Kwitcherbetchen: Why now? How has it changed anything? All I see is a slippery slope we have started on that seemingly has no end.

Quoting Donna6503: Why should we even pay any more reverence to the Confederacy than we already have ... making history have these men turned into myths and legends isn't help our culture and our values our in any sort of fashion.

One would hope we live in a time when we can examine our history as it really happened, and not in some cleaned-up fantasy way.  When we think about how that history and those monuments impact all our citizens, not just some.  When we decide not to glorify a cause that was inherently evil.  How about that?

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