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Posted by on Dec. 13, 2017 at 9:59 PM
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Months-worth of FBI employees' texts dreading Trump victory released to Congress

(CNN)A series of text messages exchanged between top FBI employees referring to then-presidential candidate Donald Trump as an "idiot" and "d*uche," while fearing his potential victory as "terrifying," were released to lawmakers Tuesday evening on Capitol Hill amid increasing demands to see them, according to documents reviewed by CNN.

Earlier this month, reports surfaced that special counsel Robert Mueller had removed Peter Strzok, one of the FBI's top Russian counterintelligence experts, from his team after an internal investigation by the Justice Department's inspector general uncovered politically tinged messages exchanged with FBI lawyer Lisa Page.
Throughout the primary season in 2016, Strzok and Page appeared to dread a Trump victory, according to the messages reviewed by CNN.
    "I cannot believe Donald Trump is likely to be an actual, serious candidate for president," Page texted Strzok on March 16, 2016.
    "God(,) Trump is a loathsome human," Page added in another, to which Strzok replies: "Yet he may win."
    The two appear to have exchanged text messages on a range of topics, particularly during presidential debates and the 2016 political conventions -- on everything from Melania Trump's convention speech to a thinly veiled comment Trump made about his hands.

    Later in a text from August 15, 2016, Strzok tells Page: "I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy's office" -- an apparent reference to Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe -- "that there's no way he gets elected -- but I'm afraid we can't take that risk. It's like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40 . . . . " Page does not appear to have responded, according to records reviewed by CNN.

    As the former No. 2 official in counterintelligence, Strzok helped lead the FBI's investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server and was involved in opening the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 US presidential election, but he was reassigned to the human resources division this summer. Page was also briefly on Mueller's team before returning to the FBI, but she completed her detail before the special counsel's office was made aware of the texts.

    In a letter to House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte of Virginia included with the released texts and obtained by CNN on Tuesday, the Justice Department says the DOJ's inspector general "informed the Special Counsel of the existence of the enclosed text messages on or about July 27, 2017. Mr. Mueller immediately concluded that Mr. Strzok could no longer participate in the investigation, and he was removed from the team."

    The roughly 375 text messages disclosed Tuesday span from August 2015 through early December 2016, though the inspector general's probe of the entire situation remains ongoing.
    The FBI declined to comment on behalf of Strzok and Page, and referred CNN to FBI Director Christopher Wray's testimony before the House Judiciary Committee last week on the process underway with the inspector general's office.

    "I think it's appropriate that we wait in this instance until we have all the facts -- until the last witness . . . has been interviewed, and then, based on the facts that we have, take appropriate action," Wray said.
    Various congressional investigators, including the House Intelligence Committee and Senate Judiciary Committee, have requested access to Strzok's messages since news of the texts broke. The Justice Department had agreed last week to turn them over, but the speed with which they were reviewed and released was unanticipated.

    Tuesday's release came just hours ahead of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's scheduled testimony before a House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing on Wednesday morning. Wray was questioned at length last week about Strzok and lawmakers have signaled similar plans for Rosenstein.
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    PPCLC
    by Lisa on Dec. 13, 2017 at 10:27 PM
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    It seems to indicate that a game plan ("insurance") could have been put in place to ensure that Trump never became our president.

    If that is the case, that's a problem IMO, and definitely smacks of corruption.

    It's very clear that many never took Donald Trump seriously (count me as one who was waiting to be pinched away from the idea of him even running much more winning) as a presidential candidate.

    So is there a possibility that stops were going to be potentially pulled out to ensure this couldn't happen? Is that what this exchange means?

    cgd5112
    by Silver Member on Dec. 13, 2017 at 10:32 PM
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    It’s probably referencing the dossier that was leaked about the Russian connection. They were probably hoping that it would leak abd it would hurt his chances of winning.

    As for the agency referring to him as a douche and an idiot, well, they were and are right.
    pvtjokerus
    by Ruby Member on Dec. 13, 2017 at 11:07 PM
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    Yeah.....it appears that "things" were put into motion to stop him from winning.....

    Quoting PPCLC:

    It seems to indicate that a game plan ("insurance") could have been put in place to ensure that Trump never became our president.

    If that is the case, that's a problem IMO, and definitely smacks of corruption.

    It's very clear that many never took Donald Trump seriously (count me as one who was waiting to be pinched away from the idea of him even running much more winning) as a presidential candidate.

    So is there a possibility that stops were going to be potentially pulled out to ensure this couldn't happen? Is that what this exchange means?


    pvtjokerus
    by Ruby Member on Dec. 13, 2017 at 11:09 PM

    Now the question is who paid for the dossier?  You see this as corrupt?

    Quoting cgd5112: It’s probably referencing the dossier that was leaked about the Russian connection. They were probably hoping that it would leak abd it would hurt his chances of winning. As for the agency referring to him as a douche and an idiot, well, they were and are right.


    DSamuels
    by Platinum Member on Dec. 13, 2017 at 11:19 PM
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    They tried, and were willing to do most anything to prevent Trump from winning the election. I think they are looking at the wrong people in collusion with Russia.
    PPCLC
    by Lisa on Dec. 13, 2017 at 11:26 PM
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    I'm really beginning to believe that there is far more to these collusion accusations and that it's not who many have wanted to believe is involved.

    I'd love to be proven wrong but it's starting to appear I may not be. 

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    Yeah.....it appears that "things" were put into motion to stop him from winning.....

    Quoting PPCLC:

    It seems to indicate that a game plan ("insurance") could have been put in place to ensure that Trump never became our president.

    If that is the case, that's a problem IMO, and definitely smacks of corruption.

    It's very clear that many never took Donald Trump seriously (count me as one who was waiting to be pinched away from the idea of him even running much more winning) as a presidential candidate.

    So is there a possibility that stops were going to be potentially pulled out to ensure this couldn't happen? Is that what this exchange means?



    pvtjokerus
    by Ruby Member on Dec. 13, 2017 at 11:45 PM
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    Based on the information that has been uncovered by the female (Carter) and the other female attorney (I can't remember her name), I think you are right about the collusion comment below.  This whole thing is turning very dark.

    Quoting PPCLC:

    I'm really beginning to believe that there is far more to these collusion accusations and that it's not who many have wanted to believe is involved.

    I'd love to be proven wrong but it's starting to appear I may not be. 

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    Yeah.....it appears that "things" were put into motion to stop him from winning.....

    Quoting PPCLC:

    It seems to indicate that a game plan ("insurance") could have been put in place to ensure that Trump never became our president.

    If that is the case, that's a problem IMO, and definitely smacks of corruption.

    It's very clear that many never took Donald Trump seriously (count me as one who was waiting to be pinched away from the idea of him even running much more winning) as a presidential candidate.

    So is there a possibility that stops were going to be potentially pulled out to ensure this couldn't happen? Is that what this exchange means?



    pvtjokerus
    by Ruby Member on Dec. 13, 2017 at 11:46 PM

    Why do you think this?

    Quoting DSamuels: They tried, and were willing to do most anything to prevent Trump from winning the election. I think they are looking at the wrong people in collusion with Russia.


    cgd5112
    by Silver Member on Dec. 14, 2017 at 5:43 AM
    Corrupt? No. If it’s about the dossier, a forner British agent was the one who came up with it. It was shown to trump the summer prior to the election. Maybe it was hoped that trump would be marred by this. Instead he paraded former alleged victims of President Bill Clinton at the debates.

    I can’t blame the agency fir dreading having a petty narcissistic buffoon in the WH.

    As for possibly there being something else set in motion, it’s probably that they anticipated an agency shake up if trump won. Therefore, their insurance is/was that they’d pursue flynns russian connections knowing it would involve trump himself and/or his son.

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    Now the question is who paid for the dossier?  You see this as corrupt?

    Quoting cgd5112: It’s probably referencing the dossier that was leaked about the Russian connection. They were probably hoping that it would leak abd it would hurt his chances of winning.

    As for the agency referring to him as a douche and an idiot, well, they were and are right.

    Sparkles4Lui
    by Platinum Member on Dec. 14, 2017 at 6:06 AM
    Are all of their exchanges available?
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