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How much longer do you think it will take?

Posted by on Jan. 18, 2018 at 5:38 PM
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For heads to roll at Michigan State University for letting that sick disgusting man (pretending to be a doctor) molest children for the last 20 years?

In the late 1990s, a teenage gymnast, a MSU softball player and a MSU long-distance runner claim they complained to MSU coaches and/or athletic trainers about Nassar's intravaginal treatments, according to lawsuits. In each case, the women claim they were told that Nassar was a renowned doctor and knew what he was doing, the lawsuits say. Three alleged victims say they brought concerns to MSU gymnastics coach Kathie Klages as early as 1997. Klages retired Feb. 14 after being suspended by the university.However, MSU spokesman Jason Cody has said there is no record of MSU receiving any complaint involving Nassar before 2014.

http://s.mlive.com/iH9Gc4I
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noozjunkee
by Bronze Member on Jan. 18, 2018 at 6:49 PM

I have clearly had my head in the sand because I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm about to find out!!

UpSheRises
by Platinum Member on Jan. 18, 2018 at 6:59 PM
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It’s REALLY big here because it’s a local pervert and local college.

Really terrible though, huh? We are on day 3 of victim impact statements. These poor girls...

Quoting noozjunkee:

I have clearly had my head in the sand because I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm about to find out!!

noozjunkee
by Bronze Member on Jan. 18, 2018 at 7:07 PM

damn!

Quoting UpSheRises: It’s REALLY big here because it’s a local pervert and local college. Really terrible though, huh? We are on day 3 of victim impact statements. These poor girls...
Quoting noozjunkee:

I have clearly had my head in the sand because I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm about to find out!!


AliasKat
by Member on Jan. 18, 2018 at 7:18 PM
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This is really awful. 

I read where Nassar wrote a letter to the judge saying he does not believe he has the mental stability to withstand any more victim impact statements.

I don't feel sorry for him. I think the court instead should record the statements and play it back when he returns to his cell, like Negan in TWD , playing music when Daryl was imprisoned.

M4LG5
by Silver Member on Jan. 18, 2018 at 7:28 PM
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Have you ever read "Little Girls in Pretty Boxes"?  It's a book that I read in the 90s about figure skaters and gynasts.  Oh man.....the things they go through is just horrible.  And, honestly, turning a blind eye is the norm.

M4LG5
by Silver Member on Jan. 18, 2018 at 7:33 PM
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Watch this.....the judge shut him down when he said (after Day 3 or 4 of statements from his victims) that he can't handle it anymore.  OH DAMN!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/nassar-says-its-too-hard-to-listen-to-victims-judge-calls-him-delusional/2018/01/18/2365928c-fc77-11e7-9b5d-bbf0da31214d_video.html?utm_term=.f0d90175173a

AliasKat
by Member on Jan. 18, 2018 at 7:40 PM
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Quoting M4LG5:

Watch this.....the judge shut him down when he said (after Day 3 or 4 of statements from his victims) that he can't handle it anymore.  OH DAMN!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/nassar-says-its-too-hard-to-listen-to-victims-judge-calls-him-delusional/2018/01/18/2365928c-fc77-11e7-9b5d-bbf0da31214d_video.html?utm_term=.f0d90175173a


Clairwil
by Ruby Member on Jan. 18, 2018 at 9:29 PM

http://www.casiedpt.com/pelvic-pain-blog/treatmentvsabuse


Lastly on a professional level, as a Doctor of Physical Therapy who has taken over 300 hours of pelvic floor- specific post-graduate work, I’m enraged!  This physician is a disgrace to healthcare professionals who actually do internal work in an ethical, informed, and appropriate way.  From Jamie’s report on ‘60 Minutes’, Dr. Lassar, “would put his fingers inside of me and move my leg around.  He would tell me I was going to feel a pop.  And that would put my hips back and help my back pain”.   

None of the girls mention informed consent, none of their coaches or parents were notified of the type of “treatment” they were receiving, the “treatments” were usually performed in a bed without a chaperone in the girls’ private rooms without gloves on.  As a pelvic floor professional these details make my hair stand on end.  In no way is this ok, ever.  

I want to take this opportunity to educate the public about internal pelvic floor assessment and treatment, because in the conversations I’ve been having with my patients and the public about this there seems to be a misconception that internal work is inherently on the line of abuse.  The media doesn’t seem to be explaining that there are indeed times when this type of “rare intravaginal treatment” is actually indicated.  In fact, it’s not rare, it can be totally legitimate, and it’s the basis of what my colleagues and I do all day and how we help hundreds of people every year.  

I’ve had chronic back pain and many pelvic floor issues (which were not diagnosed until I was in grad school) over the years.  I may have certainly benefitted from pelvic floor physical therapy and internal work as a teenager and the women’s complaints may have indicated involvement of the pelvic floor too.  There are a variety of musculoskeletal complaints that can involve the pelvic floor.  Trigger points (or knots) in the pelvic floor muscles can often refer to the back and hip areas, however an internal exam would never be indicated as first line treatment for a minor with hip or back pain, much less performed on someone who has never seen a gynecologist or been sexually active, and much much less done so without the consent of the patient and the patient’s parent.  Informed consent includes a full explanation of the treatment, the risks and benefits, and all parties (including parents for minors) agreeing to said treatment.  Dr. Nassar did no such informing leaving the window way too open to be considered legitimate treatment practices and in fact constituting abuse.

If all external structures had been ruled out and internal treatment was indicated, it should have been performed with consent by a trained pelvic floor specialist who would no doubt educate the parents and patient on what the pelvic floor is, what the muscles do, why it’s an important part of the core.  That therapist would explain what she or he was doing at every moment of the physical exam which would be performed on an exam table, she or he would have a chaperone in the room, and she or he would be wearing gloves for the duration of the treatment.  The therapist would do pre and post- treatment objective measurements to assess effectiveness of treatment and would then develop a plan of care with specific diagnoses and prognosis.  All of this information would be communicated to the patient and her parent in a clear and open line of communication.  

The fact that none of this happened is disgusting.  It makes my stomach turn and I’m so sorry for these women who may have really benefitted from pelvic floor work, but will likely never get to or want to experience the healing a skilled pelvic floor PT can offer.

GrayDuck41
by Linda on Jan. 18, 2018 at 9:32 PM
Horrible man.
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