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If a good guy with a gun solves the issue...

Posted by on Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:06 PM
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Why didn’t it work when Chris Kyle was shot?

Why didn’t it work at Ft. Hood?

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romalove
by Roma on Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:08 PM
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There was an armed guard at the Parkland school.

Didn't help.
ashellbell
by shellbark on Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:09 PM
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Right?? Chris Kyle and his friend (TRAINED navy seals) were both killed and were both armed.

Quoting romalove: There was an armed guard at the Parkland school.

Didn't help.
4evrinbluejeans
by KK on Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:16 PM

Why didn't it stop four cops from being gunned down in a coffee shop.  

ashellbell
by shellbark on Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:18 PM
Holy crap when did that happen?

Quoting 4evrinbluejeans:

Why didn't it stop four cops from being gunned down in a coffee shop.  

4evrinbluejeans
by KK on Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:22 PM

2009, the guy got away and it took them about four days to find the guy.  

Quoting ashellbell: Holy crap when did that happen?
Quoting 4evrinbluejeans:

Why didn't it stop four cops from being gunned down in a coffee shop.  


ashellbell
by shellbark on Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:25 PM
Wow. I don’t even remember that. But it’s a valid point. Those guys are literally trained for situations like that and it still didn’t work.

Quoting 4evrinbluejeans:

2009, the guy got away and it took them about four days to find the guy.  

Quoting ashellbell: Holy crap when did that happen?

Quoting 4evrinbluejeans:

Why didn't it stop four cops from being gunned down in a coffee shop.  

soonergirl980
by Silver Member on Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:27 PM
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Chris Kyle was shot in the back four times he didn’t know he was going to be a victim.

What makes you think there were good guys with guns when the Fort Hood solider attacked?

Are you going to ignore all the times it does happen?
ashellbell
by shellbark on Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:31 PM
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It was on a military base. I’m pretty sure they had guns. Kyles other friend (who was a trained navy seal) was also shot.

You’re still kind of helping me prove my point. The good guy with a gun argument is weak.

ALL the times? I’ve only known of one and that was at the church shooting in Texas.

Quoting soonergirl980: Chris Kyle was shot in the back four times he didn’t know he was going to be a victim.

What makes you think there were good guys with guns when the Fort Hood solider attacked?

Are you going to ignore all the times it does happen?
meriana
by Ruby Member on Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:32 PM
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Consider this situation which could possibly occur at some point. 

Someone begins shooting, another armed person also begins shooting. In seconds you realize there's a shooter and you, being armed, react, BUT just which person do you shoot at in order to stop others being injured? Which one is the perpetrator of violence, and which one is defending? There's really no way in a situation where there are two, or maybe even several armed persons that one can tell in seconds which one is the bad guy, and where an active shooter is involved, seconds can make a huge difference. It would be possible  that the "good guy with a gun" would be killed in the belief that he was the bad guy.

ashellbell
by shellbark on Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:34 PM
Valid points. I remember people saying had someone been armed at the Aurora movie theater shooting.

Uuuummmm you wanted a shoot out in a dark theater? Makes sense.

Quoting meriana:

Consider this situation which could possibly occur at some point. 

Someone begins shooting, another armed person also begins shooting. In seconds you realize there's a shooter and you, being armed, react, BUT just which person do you shoot at in order to stop others being injured? Which one is the perpetrator of violence, and which one is defending? There's really no way in a situation where there are two, or maybe even several armed persons that one can tell in seconds which one is the bad guy, and where an active shooter is involved, seconds can make a huge difference. It would be possible  that the "good guy with a gun" would be killed in the belief that he was the bad guy.

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