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Teaching homosexuality in school???? Updated with a news article concerning this

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I saw this in another group but what do you think of the idea of teaching about homosexuality in schools?


Here is an article from NYTimes concnerning on school district implementing this last year:  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/15/education/15education.html

Lessons on Homosexuality Move Into the Classroom

Published: August 15, 2007

ROCKVILLE, Md.

After five years, one legal defeat and a challenge on the way, Montgomery County, Md., is at the frontier of sex education in the United States. This fall, barring last-minute court action, the county will offer lessons on homosexuality in its 8th- and 10th-grade health education courses.

To school officials, the lessons are a natural outgrowth of sex education and of teachings on tolerance and diversity. They consist of two heavily scripted, 45-minute lessons for each grade and a video demonstrating how to put on a condom. The lessons’ central message is respect and acceptance of the many permutations of sexual identity, both in others and in one’s self.

School officials said they were not seeking to promote a political agenda, beyond tolerance and a kind of cultural literacy. “Our charge starts with educating students,” said Betsy Brown, who supervised the curriculum’s development in consultation with the American Academy of Pediatrics. “This is part of education.”

But critics, who have filed lawsuits seeking to stop the lessons, contended that the Montgomery County schools, just north of Washington, have gone too far. John Garza, president of the Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum, a group leading the opposition, said parents can block television shows they deem morally questionable, “but then we have the schoolteacher affirming unhealthy behavior.”

Montgomery is a mostly well-educated, politically liberal enclave. But opponents of the new curriculum, portrayed as a vocal minority by school officials, may be more in sync with the mood of parents nationally.

According to a 2004 national poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation, Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government and National Public Radio, roughly three out of four parents say it is appropriate for high schools to teach about homosexuality, but about half say it is appropriate in middle school.

WHEN asked about the issue in greater detail, more than 50 percent of high school and middle school parents supported teaching what homosexuality is about “without discussing whether it is wrong or acceptable.” Only 8 percent of high school parents and 4 percent of middle school parents said schools should teach “that homosexuality is acceptable.” The survey had a margin of error of 6 percentage points.

Montgomery County may be ahead of the country on sex education, but it may also just be out there, stranded on its own.

The controversy illustrates how fraught the road can be for educators who venture beyond academics to influence students about sensitive social issues, risking not just lawsuits, but also losing step with parents and voters. In New York City, the controversy 14 years ago over the “rainbow curriculum,” which included the book “Heather Has Two Mommies” as a first-grade text, cost Chancellor Joseph A. Fernandez his job.

“It’s a myth that our schools don’t teach values about lots of things,” said Debra W. Haffner, director of the Religious Institute on Sexual Morality, Justice and Healing, which promotes discussions about sexuality. “We don’t put communism, socialism and capitalism on an equal footing in our classes on government.”

But for a raft of reasons, many of them unconscious, teaching about sexuality is different, said Susan K. Freeman, a historian at Minnesota State University, Mankato.

For many parents, boy-girl dating may not mean that their child is sexually active, she said. By coming out as gay, though, “they’re announcing their sexuality.” Parents make a tacit assumption of sexual activity, and “that presents a problem for a lot of people,” she said.

The Montgomery County lessons begin by defining terms like “prejudice,” “homosexual” and “transgender,” and warn students not to assume that because they are not yet attracted to the opposite sex, they must be gay. The eighth-grade curriculum tells gay students that “concerns about how family and friends will accept the situation are reasonable, and fears about being teased or even attacked are not unfounded.”

In the 10th grade, the lessons, which presume that sexual identity is innate, again discuss the stresses of coming out, but add, “Many people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender celebrate their self-discovery.”

Kevin Jennings, the executive director of the New York-based Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, said the curriculum could reduce bullying over sexual identity.

“I don’t know how denying information to young people about sexuality or sexual orientation does anything to promote their health and well being,” he said.

Mr. Garza objected to schools teaching that homosexuality is not subject to change and failing to mention higher rates of some venereal diseases among gay men. “When you get into these hotly contested areas of moral judgment, that’s where the school needs to get out of it, or at least teach all sides,” he said.

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by on Feb. 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM
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greengirl106
by Member on Feb. 17, 2009 at 9:03 AM


Quoting mommadiva70:

well I think a parent should teach tolerance but they dont always as seen by many asshats online so yes the schools should teach it so the child has a real world view not a narrowminded one!


How is homosexuality a necessary curriculum in the school enviornment? It's not. There is no need for a teacher to bring that particular topic up. It' not about narrowmindedness it's about irrelevance. They don't teach blowjobs in school; it's just another fact of life you learn as you're old enough.

caramel316
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 9:28 AM

I don't feel that specifics of homosexuality should be taught at school. I feel that homosexuality is something that should be discussed at home or with the guidence counselor if need be. I feel that love and acceptance of everyone regardless of  our differences should be taught at school.

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mamatoya08
by New Member on Feb. 17, 2009 at 12:36 PM

i really dont see wat there is to teach to be honest...i think itd b a waste. its a lifestyle...

mamalisa0217
by Member on Feb. 17, 2009 at 12:36 PM

i agree with this but i would add that in school they should teach respect, etc. in which they do start that in kindergarten at least for my sons school. kids will find out about that kind of stuff one day whether you like it or not but it should be introduced at home and if there is any discussion about homosexuality at school then the parents should know ahead of time and agree with it being taught to their children at school; they send permission slips home for movies why not discussions?

Quoting Angela19947:

This really is a touchy subject for me.  I am a Christian Mom who has a ex who is homosexual. I teach my son to hate the sin not the sinner. I feel it is wrong for the school to teach this it is the parents who need to teach these things. My son does not know that is dad is gay and I will let him come to me, and tell how I feel God made sex for a man and women that aremarried not for any two unmarried people, it is not for same sex people. It a gift from God. I think parents should talk to their kids about moral things not Teachers.


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julie.r0cks
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 1:51 PM


Quoting jennmarie77:

I saw this in another group but what do you think of the idea of teaching about homosexuality in schools?

Teaching "homosexuality"?

You can be 'taught'? Like are they giving out lessons or something?

Damn, I never got those, had to figure it all out on my own.

<yes, insert sarcasm here>


I would like to know exactly what it is that they are teaching...do you have more information???

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by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 1:55 PM


Quoting Angela19947:

This really is a touchy subject for me.  I am a Christian Mom who has a ex who is homosexual. I teach my son to hate the sin not the sinner. I feel it is wrong for the school to teach this it is the parents who need to teach these things. My son does not know that is dad is gay and I will let him come to me, and tell how I feel God made sex for a man and women that aremarried not for any two unmarried people, it is not for same sex people. It a gift from God. I think parents should talk to their kids about moral things not Teachers.

I am the ex. LOL

I hope you teach your son that you are a sinner, and that you sin every day.

Nobody is "perfect".

And being a Christian doesn't mean you are "above" those homosexuals!

Human beings are animals, and homosexuality is not a choice, it's part of who we are.

I am glad my children are taught love and acceptance.

When I told my children (6&7) that I am in love with a woman they were like, ok. And that was it.

It does not matter to them, I am their mom and the best mom in the world in their eyes. Who I love doesn't change that one bit.

Oh and don't get me started on the whole marriage issue.

Research the history of marriage before you talk to your son, that would be my advice.

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by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 1:55 PM


Quoting ladiesnight:


Quoting KC33:

A well rounded child should know and accept everyone as equal so why would this topic be an issue for anyone?


Totally agree with that!  What's there to teach?  Do we teach about heterosexuality in school? 

*grins*

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jennmarie77
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 2:07 PM


Quoting julie.r0cks:


Quoting jennmarie77:

I saw this in another group but what do you think of the idea of teaching about homosexuality in schools?

Teaching "homosexuality"?

You can be 'taught'? Like are they giving out lessons or something?

Damn, I never got those, had to figure it all out on my own.



I would like to know exactly what it is that they are teaching...do you have more information???

Ya know sarcasm is not really needed here.  Here is one link and yes I do realize it's a very biased link and when I find a non-biased one, I will post that one also: http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/164863.aspx


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julie.r0cks
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 2:19 PM


Quoting jennmarie77:


Quoting julie.r0cks:


Quoting jennmarie77:

I saw this in another group but what do you think of the idea of teaching about homosexuality in schools?

Teaching "homosexuality"?

You can be 'taught'? Like are they giving out lessons or something?

Damn, I never got those, had to figure it all out on my own.



I would like to know exactly what it is that they are teaching...do you have more information???

Ya know sarcasm is not really needed here.  Here is one link and yes I do realize it's a very biased link and when I find a non-biased one, I will post that one also: http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/164863.aspx


Fine. Let it be non-sarcastic and I'll just be a straight up bitch about it.


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Eilish
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Since my post got deleted inexplicably, I thought I would post this link again ....

Homosexuality IS being taught in schools (though granted not all), and it is supported by a government funded agency called Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States

Here is the recommended Guidelines on Comprehensive Sexuality Education.

This guide recommends teaching children as young as 5 (sometimes 4 if your child is attending Kindergarten early) about all types of sexuality including homosexual relationship, sexual relationships (and that it doesn't have to be between a married couple), masturbation, and more.

The topic of sexuality does NOT belong in the classroom. It is not the role of government to raise our children. It is not the role of government to tell parents how to raise their children. Some people may not like that other parents don't want their children learning about any kind of sexuality this early, or that they don't want to teach their kids about homosexuality at all.

That doesn't matter. You have no right to tell me what I do and do not teach my children, and it is my prerogative as a parent to raise my children up in the way I believe they should go. I will likely teach my children about homosexuality but it will not be in the same light that the government-funded public schools would.

I do not support the government taking any kind of role outside of their Constitutional mandate, and no where in the Constitution does it allow the government to promote sexuality education in public schools.


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