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Teaching homosexuality in school???? Updated with a news article concerning this

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I saw this in another group but what do you think of the idea of teaching about homosexuality in schools?


Here is an article from NYTimes concnerning on school district implementing this last year:  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/15/education/15education.html

Lessons on Homosexuality Move Into the Classroom

Published: August 15, 2007

ROCKVILLE, Md.

After five years, one legal defeat and a challenge on the way, Montgomery County, Md., is at the frontier of sex education in the United States. This fall, barring last-minute court action, the county will offer lessons on homosexuality in its 8th- and 10th-grade health education courses.

To school officials, the lessons are a natural outgrowth of sex education and of teachings on tolerance and diversity. They consist of two heavily scripted, 45-minute lessons for each grade and a video demonstrating how to put on a condom. The lessons’ central message is respect and acceptance of the many permutations of sexual identity, both in others and in one’s self.

School officials said they were not seeking to promote a political agenda, beyond tolerance and a kind of cultural literacy. “Our charge starts with educating students,” said Betsy Brown, who supervised the curriculum’s development in consultation with the American Academy of Pediatrics. “This is part of education.”

But critics, who have filed lawsuits seeking to stop the lessons, contended that the Montgomery County schools, just north of Washington, have gone too far. John Garza, president of the Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum, a group leading the opposition, said parents can block television shows they deem morally questionable, “but then we have the schoolteacher affirming unhealthy behavior.”

Montgomery is a mostly well-educated, politically liberal enclave. But opponents of the new curriculum, portrayed as a vocal minority by school officials, may be more in sync with the mood of parents nationally.

According to a 2004 national poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation, Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government and National Public Radio, roughly three out of four parents say it is appropriate for high schools to teach about homosexuality, but about half say it is appropriate in middle school.

WHEN asked about the issue in greater detail, more than 50 percent of high school and middle school parents supported teaching what homosexuality is about “without discussing whether it is wrong or acceptable.” Only 8 percent of high school parents and 4 percent of middle school parents said schools should teach “that homosexuality is acceptable.” The survey had a margin of error of 6 percentage points.

Montgomery County may be ahead of the country on sex education, but it may also just be out there, stranded on its own.

The controversy illustrates how fraught the road can be for educators who venture beyond academics to influence students about sensitive social issues, risking not just lawsuits, but also losing step with parents and voters. In New York City, the controversy 14 years ago over the “rainbow curriculum,” which included the book “Heather Has Two Mommies” as a first-grade text, cost Chancellor Joseph A. Fernandez his job.

“It’s a myth that our schools don’t teach values about lots of things,” said Debra W. Haffner, director of the Religious Institute on Sexual Morality, Justice and Healing, which promotes discussions about sexuality. “We don’t put communism, socialism and capitalism on an equal footing in our classes on government.”

But for a raft of reasons, many of them unconscious, teaching about sexuality is different, said Susan K. Freeman, a historian at Minnesota State University, Mankato.

For many parents, boy-girl dating may not mean that their child is sexually active, she said. By coming out as gay, though, “they’re announcing their sexuality.” Parents make a tacit assumption of sexual activity, and “that presents a problem for a lot of people,” she said.

The Montgomery County lessons begin by defining terms like “prejudice,” “homosexual” and “transgender,” and warn students not to assume that because they are not yet attracted to the opposite sex, they must be gay. The eighth-grade curriculum tells gay students that “concerns about how family and friends will accept the situation are reasonable, and fears about being teased or even attacked are not unfounded.”

In the 10th grade, the lessons, which presume that sexual identity is innate, again discuss the stresses of coming out, but add, “Many people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender celebrate their self-discovery.”

Kevin Jennings, the executive director of the New York-based Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, said the curriculum could reduce bullying over sexual identity.

“I don’t know how denying information to young people about sexuality or sexual orientation does anything to promote their health and well being,” he said.

Mr. Garza objected to schools teaching that homosexuality is not subject to change and failing to mention higher rates of some venereal diseases among gay men. “When you get into these hotly contested areas of moral judgment, that’s where the school needs to get out of it, or at least teach all sides,” he said.

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by on Feb. 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM
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julie.r0cks
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 2:24 PM


Quoting jennmarie77:


Quoting julie.r0cks:


Quoting jennmarie77:

I saw this in another group but what do you think of the idea of teaching about homosexuality in schools?

Teaching "homosexuality"?

You can be 'taught'? Like are they giving out lessons or something?

Damn, I never got those, had to figure it all out on my own.



I would like to know exactly what it is that they are teaching...do you have more information???

Ya know sarcasm is not really needed here.  Here is one link and yes I do realize it's a very biased link and when I find a non-biased one, I will post that one also: http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/164863.aspx


First of all homosexuality has NOTHING to do with cross dressing or transexuality. That is a whole other issue which gets lumped in with the "community".

Obviously this is a biased site, as you stated, who should get some edumacation on the "lifestyles" they want to negatively portray.


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WildKat
by Bronze Member on Feb. 17, 2009 at 2:25 PM

My 6yo asked me "what does gay mean" when she was 4 or 5.  I told her "you know how Mommy and Daddy are in love?  Well we happen to be a man and woman.  Sometimes men fall in love with men, and sometimes women fall in love with women."  She said "oh", and went about her way.

I'm all for educational initiatives like this, always at an age-appropriate level.  No one could possibly teach our kids TO be gay - they are either born that way or their not.  But teaching them to accept and even embrace diversity is a GOOD thing.  Think of all the hate and the gay-bashers out there.  Now imagine if we can do something as simple as this lesson and prevent all that.  Wouldn't that be wonderful?  If we could teach peace, instead of hatred?

Peace,

Kat

jennmarie77
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 2:25 PM


Quoting Eilish:

Since my post got deleted inexplicably, I thought I would post this link again ....

Homosexuality IS being taught in schools (though granted not all), and it is supported by a government funded agency called Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States

Here is the recommended Guidelines on Comprehensive Sexuality Education.

Thanks for posting this.

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julie.r0cks
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 2:27 PM

I'm glad someone posted the facts, this is not a homosexuality debate, it's a sexuality debate.

See how people like to twist it into things to try to make homosexuals look like they are pushing their "agenda/lifestyle" on you, when in fact, we are not doing anything of the kind.


Quoting Eilish:

This guide recommends teaching children as young as 5 (sometimes 4 if your child is attending Kindergarten early) about all types of sexuality including homosexual relationship, sexual relationships (and that it doesn't have to be between a married couple), masturbation, and more.


julie.r0cks Moms with OPEN Minds Debate Group  Admin

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Eilish
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 2:27 PM

You're welcome!

Quoting jennmarie77:


Quoting Eilish:

Since my post got deleted inexplicably, I thought I would post this link again ....

Homosexuality IS being taught in schools (though granted not all), and it is supported by a government funded agency called Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States

Here is the recommended Guidelines on Comprehensive Sexuality Education.

Thanks for posting this.


cmarielin
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 3:07 PM

Well, I am inspired!

 

To homeschool.

 

J/K - I've already been thinking about homeschooling anyway, but I'm getting more and more comfortable with that idea daily.

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gogetem
by Bronze Member on Feb. 17, 2009 at 3:09 PM

It infuriates me

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julie.r0cks
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 4:32 PM


Quoting gogetem:

It infuriates me

This thread should be changed to "teaching sex education beginning at age 5" since that's what it's really about.

julie.r0cks Moms with OPEN Minds Debate Group  Admin

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Eilish
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 4:54 PM


Quoting julie.r0cks:


Quoting gogetem:

It infuriates me

This thread should be changed to "teaching sex education beginning at age 5" since that's what it's really about.

I agree ... those who are opposed to homosexuality being taught in the classroom, are often the ones saying that we are oversexualizing our kids at an early age. Many of the problems that stem from teaching about homosexuality are the same problems that we face when teaching about sexuality of any kind.

jennmarie77
by on Feb. 17, 2009 at 4:59 PM


Quoting julie.r0cks:


Quoting gogetem:

It infuriates me

This thread should be changed to "teaching sex education beginning at age 5" since that's what it's really about.

Actually the original intent of the post was to discuss opinions on teaching homosexual relationships in public schools.

Also, you may want to check I did not give my opinion even once throughout this whole post.  I've sat back and read what everyone has wrote. 

Here is my thoughts:  I am for equality of all citizens in the US.  I am for teaching every child that we need to love every person regardless of who they are.  I am not for my child to learn about homosexuals, transexuals, etc in a public school.  I am for teaching my children when I feel they are ready not when the public school thinks they are reading. 

I do understand that many parents will not teach their children about equality and about loving everyone despite who they are, so for this reason I have mixed feelings on this whole education aspect. 

I need to run or I'd write more.

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