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So much for the frivolous lawsuits!


EXCLUSIVE: Climate bill could trigger lawsuit landslide

Allows action from those 'expected to suffer'


Self-proclaimed victims of global warming or those who "expect to suffer" from it - from beachfront property owners to asthmatics - for the first time would be able to sue the federal government or private businesses over greenhouse gas emissions under a little-noticed provision slipped into the House climate bill.

Environmentalists say the measure was narrowly crafted to give citizens the unusual standing to sue the U.S. government as a way to force action on curbing emissions. But the U.S. Chamber of Commerce sees a new cottage industry for lawyers.

"You could be spawning lawsuits at almost any place [climate-change modeling] computers place at harm's risk," said Bill Kovacs, energy lobbyist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

The bill was written by House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry A. Waxman, California Democrat, and Rep. Edward J. Markey, Massachusetts Democrat. Both lawmakers declined repeated requests for comment.

The Waxman-Markey blueprint, including the lawsuit provision, has just been released, and the Senate is drafting its own energy bill. But Mr. Waxman has set an accelerated schedule for passing the bill through his committee by Memorial Day and President Obama lists an energy overhaul bill as one of his top priorities.

David Doniger, senior counsel with the Natural Resources Defense Council, said the measure is similar to a landmark environmental ruling from the Supreme Court allowing states to sue the federal government for damages from climate change - largely on the basis of lost shorelines from rising sea levels - but did not set grounds for people to file lawsuits.

"The [Chamber of Commerce] is trying to say the global-warming legislation is scarier than global warming itself," Mr. Doniger said. "It's part of a menu of scare tactics they are compiling."

Under the House bill, if a judge rules against the government, new rules would have to be drafted to alleviate the problems associated with climate change. If a judge rules against a company, the company would have to purchase additional "carbon emission allowances" through a cap-and-trade program that is to be created by Congress.

The measure sets grounds for anyone "who has suffered, or reasonably expects to suffer, a harm attributable, in whole or in part," to government inaction to file a "citizen suit." The term "harm" is broadly defined as "any effect of air pollution (including climate change), currently occurring or at risk of occurring."

by on Apr. 14, 2009 at 1:08 AM
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by Bronze Member on Apr. 14, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Quoting Amybelle:


Me thinks the Lady doth Protest too much!

(& NO I am not an Obama SUPPORTER,  just have been watching this group)

Did I mention you? Since you are the police here you should have noticed that some of the other moms are the ones who initially are adding the negative childish comments but of course you are not bias are you!?!? If you can't make an intelligent comment in reference to the OP than pls. skip to another post~

Ha Ha hah! Wahhhhhhhhhhh wahhhhhhh booooooooooooo-hoooooooooooooo you're a big baby! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Becha $10.00 bucks she responds!!!!!!!!!!

by Gold Member on Apr. 14, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Quoting blondekosmic15:


Quoting 1bluediamond:


Quoting blondekosmic15:


Quoting mccainiac:


Quoting sweetie00:

On a side note, blonde-   whats the difference between a drug addict and a pain killer addict? And is it O.K. to smear the POTUS, but not a radio talk show host?!~?

HUH? What smear??? Obama and the energy bill? not another drama whore. yuk. You ladies should get a life and leave this woman alone.If you don't like her post, don't read them!!!

Thank you McCainiac.....they are so unhappy inside they reap their joys from insulting those who do not embrace w/ all their heart their Socialist agenda & their wacko ideas for America's Gov't. When you continuously stand up to them as opposed to bowing @ their feet as Obama did in Saudia Arabia....they crumble w/ anxiety & despair! I have been around the block { & the world } 1000 of times....much more than they their childish & shallow remarks will never ruffle my Conservative feathers!

Obviously your feathers are ruffled or you wouldn't keep posting. It's another Blonde Moment

Believe me sweetheart you are incapable of ruffling my feathers...your pic above just reveals your immature character!

LMAO!!! Blonde your post go off the deep end it's only relevant to let my inner child come out! & This is funny as heck!

by Satan on Apr. 14, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Don't make me break out the Cocoa Puffs dude again.  Seems the admin won't abide the straight jacket and duct tape pics...


by on Apr. 14, 2009 at 10:39 PM

Since you moms are incapable of any intelligent reponses I will add 1.....

more warranted reasons for big buck lawsuits !!!

All else being equal, occupants of a smaller vehicle will fare worse in a crash than those in a bigger one because of differences in weight as well as the lack of extra crushable metal to absorb the impact.

by on Apr. 14, 2009 at 10:59 PM

Hmmm....numerous Scientists & millions of intelligent Americans do not even embrace the Global Warming concept. Maybe Waxman & Markey should do their homewk. & seek other avenues to draw up bills to warrant respective lawsuits~

by Satan on Apr. 15, 2009 at 1:23 AM

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by on Apr. 15, 2009 at 7:26 PM

Please tell me that you don't honestly believe in any form of the destruction of the earth by humans.  I knew you were confused, but I could never imagine that you were this warped.

I'm curious, just what do you see as a "respective lawsuit"?

Quoting blondekosmic15:

Hmmm....numerous Scientists & millions of intelligent Americans do not even embrace the Global Warming concept. Maybe Waxman & Markey should do their homewk. & seek other avenues to draw up bills to warrant respective lawsuits~

by on Apr. 16, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Well I'm so sorry to rain on your little laughing parade. But I Do live on the cost line and we do have to worry about this. High water flooding my house, or just taking it away all together. If I have to move it do you have any clue how much it would Take? It would be nice to have something to fall back on, if something were to happen.
by on Apr. 16, 2009 at 10:38 AM

BK, you need to break out the troll spay.There are new ones popping up every minute. Must be blond ambition!!!


"The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men."- Plato

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