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Will Texas Ever Leave?

Posted by on Apr. 15, 2009 at 10:46 PM
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I have a special place in my heart for the " lone star " state of Texas...I was born in Ft. Worth & lived in Tx. part of my life { moved around alot.} Any Texas moms.....your thoughts ladies! Do you believe Tx. will ever leave the Union!?

        

Perry fires up anti-tax crowd

 

04/15/2009

By KELLEY SHANNON  / Associated Press

 

Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"

An animated Perry told the crowd at Austin City Hall - one of three tea parties he was attending across the state - that officials in Washington have abandoned the country's founding principles of limited government. He said the federal government is strangling Americans with taxation, spending and debt.

Perry repeated his running theme that Texas' economy is in relatively good shape compared with other states and with the "federal budget mess." Many in the crowd held signs deriding President Barack Obama and the $786 billion federal economic stimulus package.

Perry called his supporters patriots. Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that.

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

He said when Texas entered the union in 1845 it was with the understanding it could pull out. However, according to the Texas State Library and Archives Commission, Texas negotiated the power to divide into four additional states at some point if it wanted to but not the right to secede.

Texas did secede in 1861, but the North's victory in the Civil War put an end to that.

Perry is running for re-election against U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, a fellow Republican. His anti-Washington remarks have become more strident the past few weeks as that 2010 race gets going and since Perry rejected $550 million in federal economic stimulus money slated to help Texas' unemployment trust fund.

Perry said the stimulus money would come with strings attached that would leave Texas paying the bill once the federal money ran out.

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, also Republicans, have been outspoken against the federal economic stimulus spending and were supportive of tea parties in their states. The protests were being held throughout the country on federal income tax deadline day to imitate the original Boston Tea Party of American revolutionary times.

In an appearance at the Texas Capitol last week, Perry joined state lawmakers in pushing a resolution that supports states' rights protected in the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. He said the federal government has become oppressive in its size and interference with states.

Since then, Perry has been featured on the online Drudge Report, and other conservative commentators and citizens have latched on to his words.

After praising veterans in the cheering crowd Wednesday, he said: "I'm just not real sure you're a bunch of right-wing extremists. But if you are, we're with you."

Perry said he believes he could be at the center of a national movement that is coordinated and focused in its opposition to the actions of the federal government.

"It's a very organic thing," he said. "It is a very powerful moment, I think, in American history."

For her part, Hutchison issued a newspaper opinion piece Wednesday criticizing the Democratic-led Congress for spending on the stimulus bill and the $1 trillion appropriations bill.

"On April 15 - Tax Day - some in Congress may need a reminder of just who is underwriting this spending: the American taxpayer. I am deeply concerned over the swelling tax burden that will be imposed on all Texas families," she wrote.

The crowd at the Austin tea party appeared to be decidedly anti-Democrat. Many of the speakers were Republicans and Libertarians.

One placard said, "Stop Obama's Socialism." Another read, "Some Pirates Are in America," and it showed photographs of Obama, U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid wearing pirate hats.

Rebecca Knowlton, 45, of Smithville, said she took the day off of home-schooling her three children and brought them to the rally to teach them about civic duty. Knowlton, a critic of the Social Security system and the United Nations, said she felt camaraderie at the demonstration.

"The movement is growing stronger," she said. "You're not alone."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D97J48IO2.html

by on Apr. 15, 2009 at 10:46 PM
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metalcowgirl34
by on Apr. 15, 2009 at 11:09 PM

These beliefs (anti-tax, anti-government, pro-constitution) are not limited to Texas alone.  I agree with all of it, and I'm in Wisconsin.  There are a LOT of people all over the country who are sick of this corrupt government.  I don't think this is just a Texas thing, I think it's all over.....and that's good.

Eilish
by on Apr. 15, 2009 at 11:13 PM

Uhhh .... technically speaking Texas never joined ;-) And if you think there is a question of Texas leaving just click the following link:

http://www.texasrepublic.info/

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resamerie
by Platinum Member on Apr. 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Some people think that it is so far fetched that we could ever have another civil war. In La., Our governor, Bobby Jindal wanted to turn down the stimulus  but was told that Katrina victims would receive no more government resources if he did so. So many of the younger generation that just buy into what Obama says have not a clue.

Keep drinking it some of you   

Katie911
by on Apr. 15, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Another civil war is not that far fetched.  But I don't think we are there yet

 

cm08
by on Apr. 15, 2009 at 11:37 PM

 Those in Washington better start playing close attention to the movement. It's really picking up stream.  Old Faithful is getting ready to blow it top off.   

scottyliammom
by Member on Apr. 15, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Perry is a douchebag.  Doesn't he have anything better to do?  Like underpay more state employees or raise more money to "redo" the governor's mansion while the rest of us are barely squeaking by?

blondekosmic15
by on Apr. 15, 2009 at 11:45 PM

 

Quoting resamerie:

Some people think that it is so far fetched that we could ever have another civil war. In La., Our governor, Bobby Jindal wanted to turn down the stimulus  but was told that Katrina victims would receive no more government resources if he did so. So many of the younger generation that just buy into what Obama says have not a clue.

Keep drinking it some of you   


I agree resa...was not aware concerning the Bobby Jindal situation. 1 of my brothers just recently moved to Germany w/ his German wife. They resided in New Orleans for 12 yrs. I flew to NO last yr. for a family reunion. Some of the sites were devastating. My brother is a staunch liberal { sadly } & he shared w/ me that Jindal has been good for the state of La. Definitely a positve change from Kathleen Blanco. I was surprised when he said that. My brother will never forget Katrina as many will not. He also shook his head when I mentioned the re-election of Mayor Ray Nagin. Perfect ex. of those who fail to learn from their mistakes~

blondekosmic15
by on Apr. 16, 2009 at 12:01 AM


Quoting Katie911:

Another civil war is not that far fetched.  But I don't think we are there yet

 


I believe it's coming but what concerns me even more is.....America's enemies will thrive off of our weaknesses. If the economy continues to sink...this opens the door to the terrorists to take advantage of America's vulnerability . Remember 911 was for the terrorists a dream * an opportunity to weaken us economically by striking the Towers * hopefully providing them w/ the chance to bring us down to the level of no return for the purpose of crumbling us financially. Surprisingly the US bounced back & America's strength of will to fight back proved to be our weapon to sustain our Nat'l security & than some. The current economic situation is continually on a downward spiral & Barack Obama seemingly has no clue how to politically manuever us on the right path to success again~

aidans_mama
by on Apr. 16, 2009 at 12:03 AM


Quoting scottyliammom:

Perry is a douchebag.  Doesn't he have anything better to do?  Like underpay more state employees or raise more money to "redo" the governor's mansion while the rest of us are barely squeaking by?

you know while working for the prison here, we get paid next to nothing for what we do....everytime pay increases come up they are first given to teachers, police officers, and firefighters, by the time it gets to us there is no more money left. 

i hate seeing those "help us rebuild the gov. mansion" commercials.

i don't like perry either.

if there ever came a time when texas would actually leave, i would leave. as much as i love living my home state i would not stay.  i love being a texan, but i love being an american more.





scottyliammom
by Member on Apr. 16, 2009 at 12:10 AM

My husband is a CO and that is exactly why I posted this!!  I know they are voting for a 20% increase in pay for COs because you all get paid so horribly!!  You are literally in danger every minute you are working.  My husband chose this profession after he got out of the military but come on.  I couldnt do your job - you do not hear enough thank you's for what you do, so THANK YOU ALL!!

I am like you - I love Texas but if it ever actually "left" - I would too. 

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by on Apr. 15, 2009 at 11:03 PM

 

Quoting scottyliammom:

Perry is a douchebag.  Doesn't he have anything better to do?  Like underpay more state employees or raise more money to "redo" the governor's mansion while the rest of us are barely squeaking by?

you know while working for the prison here, we get paid next to nothing for what we do....everytime pay increases come up they are first given to teachers, police officers, and firefighters, by the time it gets to us there is no more money left. 

i hate seeing those "help us rebuild the gov. mansion" commercials.

i don't like perry either.

if there ever came a time when texas would actually leave, i would leave. as much as i love living my home state i would not stay.  i love being a texan, but i love being an american more.


I am a pro-choice, formula feeding, vaxing, pro-gay rights, stem cell research supporting, pro-gun, pro-death penalty, loving wife and proud mom to a CRS child.  Thanks and have a nice day.



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