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The Holy Father desires for peaceful dialogue...not inflammatory speeches which will diminsh the possiblities of a peaceful resolve between the Nations involved!

Sheikh Tamimi attacks Israel, pope walks out

A leading Palestinian cleric commandeered an evening devoted to interfaith dialogue with Pope Benedict XVI on Monday to rant against Israel for "killing Gaza's children," "bulldozing Palestinian homes" and "destroying mosques."

In an impromptu speech, delivered in Arabic at the Notre Dame Pontifical Institute in Jerusalem, Sheikh Tayseer Tamimi, chief Islamic judge in the Palestinian Authority, launched a 10-minute tirade against the State of Israel for confiscating Palestinians' land and carrying out war crimes against the residents of Gaza.

He also called for the immediate return of all Palestinian refugees, and called on Christians and Muslims to unite against Israel.

Tamimi invoked the name of Saladin, the Muslim sultan who recaptured Jerusalem from the Crusaders in 1187. Tamimi said that unlike Israel, Saladin upheld the religious freedoms of all faiths.

Following the diatribe and before the meeting was officially over, the pope exited the premises. However, he shook Tamimi's hand before walking out.

The pope, speaking before Tamimi, discussed the importance of religion and truth for the advancement of humanity's mutual understanding.

 

Pope Benedict XVI, center, listens along with Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen, left, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, second left, Latin Patriarch Fouad Twal, second right, and Sheikh Taysir Tamimi during an interfaith gathering at the Notre Dame Center in Jerusalem, Monday, May 11, 2009.

 

He was visibly uncomfortable with the tone of Tamimi's discourse. Even those who did not understand his Arabic quickly understood that the Muslim cleric was giving a militant speech.

Several attempts were made by Latin Patriarch in the Holy Land Fouad Twal, a Palestinian, to politely stop Tamimi. But Tamimi would not be deterred from reading his written speech, apparently prepared in advance without the knowledge of the organizers.

When Tamimi finished, applause could be heard from a few dozen in an audience of a few hundred.

Father Federico Lombardi, director of the Holy See Press Office, responded to Tamimi's tirade by e-mail.

"The intervention of Sheikh Tayseer Tamimi was not previewed by the organizers of the interreligious meeting that took place at Notre Dame Center in Jerusalem.

"In a meeting dedicated for dialogue this intervention was a direct negation of what dialogue should be. We hope that such incident will not damage the mission of the Holy Father aiming at promoting peace and interreligious dialogue as he has clearly affirmed in many occasions in this pilgrimage.

"We hope also that interreligious dialogue in the Holy Land will not be damaged by this incident," Lombardi said.

Haifa Chief Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen, the only Jewish representative on the stage with the pope, attacked Tamimi afterwards for "cynically exploiting the media opportunity to incite and disparage the State of Israel."

Cohen, who is also the cochairman of a joint Chief Rabbinate-Holy See interreligious committee, said he would refuse to meet with Tamimi again.

Oded Weiner, director-general of the Chief Rabbinate, called Tamimi's comments "scandalous" and said the Rabbinate was cutting off all ties with him.

"This unplanned speech embarrassed and was disrespectful toward our honored guest, the pope," Weiner said immediately after the speech.

"While the pope comes on a mission of peace and brotherhood, Sheikh Tamimi comes with a message of war," Weiner said.

The Foreign Ministry and Tourism Ministry released a joint statement saying it was "very unfortunate" that the sheikh took advantage of the event to "wildly incite against Israel."

The statement said that Israel condemned the comments, and that instead of furthering peace and dialogue, the sheikh chose to "sow division and hatred between Israel and the Palestinians, and Jews, Moslems and Christians."

Tamimi staged an identical verbal attack against Israel during Pope John Paul II's visit in March 2000.

Then, Tamimi called on "the occupier" to stop "strangling Jerusalem and oppressing its residents."

Citing land confiscations, house demolitions, settlements and the Baruch Goldstein massacre in Hebron in 1994, Tamimi said Israel had a long record of "genocide" and "shooting and wounding Palestinian children."

"The establishment of an independent Palestinian state with Yasser Arafat as its president and Jerusalem as its capital - this will stop the strife between the religions," Tamimi said at the time.

He also refused to shake the hand of then-chief Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau.

Rev. Dr. Trond Bakkevig of the Council of Religious Institutions of the Holy Land, the interfaith body that works with Tamimi, said he was "terribly sorry" about Tamimi's speech. But he hoped that it would not shed a negative light on the entire evening.

"It is important that the whole evening is not just Tamimi's speech," said Bakkevig, who represented the (Lutheran) Church of Norway

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1242029499952&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

by on May. 12, 2009 at 1:36 AM
Replies (61-70):
TaiyoandMe
by Member on May. 12, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Negetive consequences?  Like the millions of Jews faced?  That kind of negetive consequence?  I'm just checking because my family was held captive, burried alive in ditch then shot at multiple times with riffles because they stayed true to their faith and their beliefs.  I have no pity. 

My dad was Barmitzva'd and my mom was Confirmed.  I am not partial but wrong is wrong.

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting spoiled_wife:

Just making sure I understand this.

If the Pope sits through a speech like this, shakes hands with the man afterwards......It's  being "Cordial".......

If the President does those things....... He's a disgrace who is showing that he approves of or is in the least willing to listen (God forbid)  to someone of this calibur..........

Okay......... lol

I personally have no thoughts on the Pope. I have little respect for a man that was a member of Hitler's youth..... YEah Yeah I know.. He was "drafted:"  He was "Forced" into it... lol


Sadly you are taking the word of anti-Christian journalists as Gospel. LOL!  Remember the secular world despises Christianity & the Catholic Church! Pls. take time to research the TRUTH, mam! Being in Hitler's youth WAS OBLIGATORY. There WAS NO FREEDOM TO CHOOSE! Not showing up would have brought negative consequences if you know what I mean! Joseph Ratzinger ran away b/c he knew the evil of Nazism + his father despised Nazism!

http://www.culturalcatholic.com/PopeBenedictXVI.htm


Della529
by Matlock on May. 12, 2009 at 5:07 PM


Quoting luvmygrndhg:
Quoting Della529:

Whoa!!  Based on the way you write (talk), it sounds like the voices you are hearing are no where near anything holy, blessed or otherwise.  And, if they are the voices of the "Holy Spirit",  you might do well to listen more closely.  Satan can be ANYTHING and sound like ANYTHING, dear.

The most worshipped potentate didn't sit through the ravings of a so-called "lunatic" due to unGodly knowledge?  He was "just" being "cordial"?  Yeah, okay...The man was listening because the CC holds NO mandate for political Israel being a mandate of BIBLICAL PROPORTION!

Oh...I get it....this is your bone of contention.  I guess you must have missed all the Biblical passages in  Genesis where God promised that land to Abraham and his descendants, then there were all the passages in Exodus where God promised the land to Moses reaffirming the original promise, then there was the entire Book of Joshua about claiming the land.  If after the Egyptian exhile and after the Babylonian captivity, they rightfully returned to the land, why not after the Diaspora?

Did Jesus not represent (through Catholicism's teachings) a NEW COVENANT?  Were not the old laws eliminated?  Did the Catholics have a great love for the Jewish people? Even through the late 50's of the previous century?

Della529
by Matlock on May. 12, 2009 at 5:16 PM


Quoting luvmygrndhg:
Quoting Della529:

Well, who, who!  I practiced longer than you!  I reckon I'm giving you fodder for your "hearing".  Honey, based on your comments and the things you post, I don't want to know YOUR God. 

I'm not spending my time responding to you because you affect me.  I spend my time refuting you because you are misleading people.

Maybe the Pope was interested in hearing from this Cleric.  Were you in his head?  Did Jesus walk up to you and tell you otherwise?

So who is misleading whom?  What are you trying to do with your speculation about what was going on in the Pope's head?  Yes, who is misleading whom?  Especially when they title a post with an inflammatory statement.  I didn't speculate at all.  I asked QUESTIONS.

As for your comment about how long you "practiced", and by the statement "
I don't want to know YOUR God." Does it mean that you have Your own God?  What does this grasp at straws say?  Catholicism, Judaism, and Muslims all recognize the God of Abraham.  No, I don't want to know the God BK describes.  WHY?  Because her version of GOD, does NOT EXIST.

Hmmnnn...this bible verse is starting to make a whole lot of sense to me now:
"It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. "Hebrews 6:4-7

 


Goodwoman614
by Satan on May. 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Oh. yes.  We ALLLL agree: the pope is just so loving....

P.S:  That was sarcasm.

P.P.S:  The pope is irrelevant.



P.P.P.S:  That Palestinian speaker?  Um, he didn't lie.  That stuff happened.  But lest we forget:


http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/media/LAtuff_Israel__Criticism_not_Allowed2_01.JPG









                                                                                                       

imasurvivor
by Member on May. 12, 2009 at 7:42 PM

popcorn 

blondekosmic15
by on May. 12, 2009 at 9:04 PM

 

Quoting Goodwoman614:

Oh. yes.  We ALLLL agree: the pope is just so loving....

P.S:  That was sarcasm.

P.P.S:  The pope is irrelevant.

Sorry not the opinion of God, GW. You are Peter...upon this Rock I will build my Church & the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against Her! Matthew 16:18 Does not sound irrelevant to me~



P.P.P.S:  That Palestinian speaker?  Um, he didn't lie.  According to you...hmm   That stuff happened.  But lest we forget:

 

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/media/LAtuff_Israel__Criticism_not_Allowed2_01.JPG

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

conniecabe
by on May. 12, 2009 at 9:12 PM


Quoting Della529:

 

Quoting Summersnowflake:

Seriously everyone, i think he was just trying to be polite by not walking out in the middle of it.  Clearly, he was uncomfortable with the whole speech.  Still, he was polite enough to shake the guy's hand before he left.   This is what any person with a good conscience would do. 

Had this happened with the current US President and he shook his so-called ENEMY'S hand, there would be conservative-christians screaming to high HEAVEN!

Didn't it happen when President Obama shook Chavez's hand?  Yeah...that's what I thought...Blonde seemed to be screaming the LOUDEST!   Which is it blonde...can only the people YOU deem worthy be cordial to someone with differing views? 

DawnVirgin
by Member on May. 12, 2009 at 9:29 PM

I completely agree with TaiyoandMe because wrong is just plain wrong. You can sit there and spit all you want about olbligation and consequences, but what would you do. You are so holy now? And have such a deep love for your god, would you have been under Hitler and killed innocent people because of what they believed in?

Does God say this is ok???? Because I thought MURDER was a sin...Guess a lot of us were wrong

Quoting TaiyoandMe:

Negetive consequences?  Like the millions of Jews faced?  That kind of negetive consequence?  I'm just checking because my family was held captive, burried alive in ditch then shot at multiple times with riffles because they stayed true to their faith and their beliefs.  I have no pity. 

My dad was Barmitzva'd and my mom was Confirmed.  I am not partial but wrong is wrong.

Quoting blondekosmic15:


Quoting spoiled_wife:

Just making sure I understand this.

If the Pope sits through a speech like this, shakes hands with the man afterwards......It's  being "Cordial".......

If the President does those things....... He's a disgrace who is showing that he approves of or is in the least willing to listen (God forbid)  to someone of this calibur..........

Okay......... lol

I personally have no thoughts on the Pope. I have little respect for a man that was a member of Hitler's youth..... YEah Yeah I know.. He was "drafted:"  He was "Forced" into it... lol


Sadly you are taking the word of anti-Christian journalists as Gospel. LOL!  Remember the secular world despises Christianity & the Catholic Church! Pls. take time to research the TRUTH, mam! Being in Hitler's youth WAS OBLIGATORY. There WAS NO FREEDOM TO CHOOSE! Not showing up would have brought negative consequences if you know what I mean! Joseph Ratzinger ran away b/c he knew the evil of Nazism + his father despised Nazism!

http://www.culturalcatholic.com/PopeBenedictXVI.htm



Gypsyuma
by Gold Member on May. 12, 2009 at 11:36 PM

I am just loving this ass wuppin'.  Keep it comin' girls!


 

Della529
by Matlock on May. 13, 2009 at 11:07 AM


Quoting conniecabe:
Quoting Della529:
Quoting Summersnowflake:

Seriously everyone, i think he was just trying to be polite by not walking out in the middle of it.  Clearly, he was uncomfortable with the whole speech.  Still, he was polite enough to shake the guy's hand before he left.   This is what any person with a good conscience would do. 

Had this happened with the current US President and he shook his so-called ENEMY'S hand, there would be conservative-christians screaming to high HEAVEN!

Didn't it happen when President Obama shook Chavez's hand?  Yeah...that's what I thought...Blonde seemed to be screaming the LOUDEST!   Which is it blonde...can only the people YOU deem worthy be cordial to someone with differing views? 

Yes, I do seem to recall the raging and complaining Blonde did (and still does) over Obama shaking Chavez's hand ;o)

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