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Can Obama really give someone the title of Czar?

Posted by on Jun. 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM
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It is my understanding that under Article 1 Section 9 of the constitution that giving anyone a title of nobility is against the law of the United States. How is it that Obama can give these titles out and not commit treason?

by on Jun. 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM
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CullenLover
by on Jun. 8, 2009 at 1:56 PM

you're right, i have no idea.

trippyhippy
by Gold Member on Jun. 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM

We have had a drug czar for decades now.  Obama had nothing to do with choosing the title.

Happytime
by on Jun. 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM


Quoting trippyhippy:

We have had a drug czar for decades now.  Obama had nothing to do with choosing the title.

Your right but he did have responsibility in naming a Special Master! Read the article below
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124416737421887739.html

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration plans to appoint a "Special Master for Compensation" to ensure that companies receiving federal bailout funds are abiding by executive-pay guidelines, according to people familiar with the matter.

       



PamR
by Pam on Jun. 8, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Obama didn't come up with calling someone a "czar."  It's been going on for quite some time, through both repubican and democratic administrations.

stormcris
by Christy on Jun. 8, 2009 at 2:19 PM

We have had all these?

Energy czar Carol Browner

Urban czar Adolfo Carrion, Jr.

Infotech czar Vivek Kundra

Faith-based czar Joshua DuBois

Health reform czar Nancy-Ann DeParle

New TARP czar Herb Allison

Stimulus accountability czar Earl Devaney

Non-proliferation czar Gary Samore

Terrorism czar John Brennan

Regulatory czar Cass Sunstein

Drug czar Gil Kerlikowske

Guantanamo closure czar Daniel Fried.

We have had a Special Master for Compensation?

It is my understanding that in the past the title Czar came from the Nixon who we all know thought he was above and beyond law but many presidents have been very careful not to name Czars. But, I was under the distinct impression that none of these presidents actually gave the title of Czar to them until now. It was just a label not an actual title.

It is also my understanding that now that would be the actual title.


Quoting trippyhippy:

We have had a drug czar for decades now.  Obama had nothing to do with choosing the title.


Happytime
by on Jun. 8, 2009 at 2:20 PM

 That still isn't the question, can a czar be appointed BY ANY president , currently OBAMA, there are no confirmation hearings, they are just appointed to make decisions and advise the president....Sounds like it could be challenged in the supreme court...

       



stormcris
by Christy on Jun. 8, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Yes, this is more so what I mean. We should never have Czars no matter who started this. No one should be above congressional oversight.

Quoted from LA Times:

The idea of these "super aides," who will work across agency lines to push the president's agenda, is not a new one. President Nixon may have named the first "czar" with his appointment of William E. Simon to handle the 1970s energy crisis. Other presidents have followed suit.

But none has embraced the concept, presidential scholars say, to the extent that Obama has.

He has appointed special advisors who will work from inside the White House on healthcare, the economy, energy and urban issues, with more to come.

"The challenges coming at us are bigger than anything we've seen since the Depression," said Jim Messina, deputy White House chief of staff. "It's crucial to have people in these positions who can help us meet them head-on."

But some lawmakers and outside experts fear that Obama is setting up a system that is not subject to congressional oversight and creates the potential for conflict among his many advisors.

Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.) became concerned enough to send a cautionary letter to Obama last week. At times, he said, past White House staffers have assumed duties that should be the responsibility of officials cleared through the Senate confirmation process. He cited President Bush's naming of homeland security czar Tom Ridge as an example.

"They rarely testify before congressional committees and often shield the information and decision-making process behind the assertion of executive privilege," Byrd wrote of past czars and White House staffers in similar positions. At times, he said, one outcome has been to "inhibit openness and transparency, and reduce accountability."

"The rapid and easy accumulation of power by White House staff can threaten the constitutional system of checks and balances," Byrd said.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/05/nation/na-obama-czars5

Quoting Happytime:

 That still isn't the question, can a czar be appointed BY ANY president , currently OBAMA, there are no confirmation hearings, they are just appointed to make decisions and advise the president....Sounds like it could be challenged in the supreme court...


tericared
by on Jun. 8, 2009 at 2:40 PM

The term czar is sometimes applied generally to a powerful leader or to a government administrator with wide-ranging powers.

  1. Informal An appointed official having special powers to regulate or supervise an activity: a racetrack czar; an energy czar.

What is the big deal? Is this Russia? It is a word and no more...sweet niblets...........

stormcris
by Christy on Jun. 8, 2009 at 3:02 PM

They do not answer to congress and get to bypass the checks and balances system. That is why I think it is a big deal.

Quoting tericared:

The term czar is sometimes applied generally to a powerful leader or to a government administrator with wide-ranging powers.

  1. Informal An appointed official having special powers to regulate or supervise an activity: a racetrack czar; an energy czar.

What is the big deal? Is this Russia? It is a word and no more...sweet niblets...........


Happytime
by on Jun. 8, 2009 at 3:13 PM


Quoting stormcris:

They do not answer to congress and get to bypass the checks and balances system. That is why I think it is a big deal.

Quoting tericared:

The term czar is sometimes applied generally to a powerful leader or to a government administrator with wide-ranging powers.

  1. Informal An appointed official having special powers to regulate or supervise an activity: a racetrack czar; an energy czar.

What is the big deal? Is this Russia? It is a word and no more...sweet niblets...........


would be a big deal if it were Palin in there appointing czars...lol

       



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