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  • Della529
  on Jun. 29, 2009 at 8:06 PM

• Some Christians really need the wisdom to discern because the Zionists are no different than that of Windy City of Chicago politics and the Mayor Daley machine that led Obama into the WH.  Millions of Americans do not agree with the principles and actions of the Zionists and I have to respectively disagree with them even though my family is a large Military family.

  

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  • tericared
  on Jun. 29, 2009 at 9:01 PM

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  Quoting Della529:
  
  

  Some Christians really need the wisdom to discern because the Zionists are no different than that of Windy City of Chicago politics and the Mayor Daley machine that led Obama into the WH.  Millions of Americans do not agree with the principles and actions of the Zionists and I have to respectively disagree with them even though my family is a large Military family.

  

  
  

  
  

    The Right To Be Human In Palestine

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  • Della529
  on Jun. 29, 2009 at 9:06 PM

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  Quoting tericared:
  
  

  
  

  Quoting Della529:
  
  

  Some Christians really need the wisdom to discern because the Zionists are no different than that of Windy City of Chicago politics and the Mayor Daley machine that led Obama into the WH.  Millions of Americans do not agree with the principles and actions of the Zionists and I have to respectively disagree with them even though my family is a large Military family.

  

  
  

  Think that was close?  LOL!
  

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  • Eilish
  on Jun. 30, 2009 at 12:37 AM

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  Pretty pathetic..... how the evangelical Christians donate money and do everything possible to help the Zionists, who obviously have NO RESPECT for Christians when they are bulldozing the priests homes.

  Are the Zionists still the "CHOSEN ONES"?

  The Jewish people will always be the ones chosen by God.  However, we need to remember that they are human.  They have always rebelled against God (Old testament scripture shows this) and have not always followed his laws and commandments.  That does not make them any less chosen by God, only human.  That being said, please do not think I am saying that what they are doing is right.  I am not saying that at all.  I do not agree with everything they are doing.  I just think we need to be aware that just because they are chosen of God does not mean that everything they do is what God would want them to do.

  There are Torah-believing Jews who have denounced Zionism for being a fraud. These Jews have stated that the origins of Zionism do not respect the Torah or even the idea of a supernatural diety (and there is a conspiracy theory that they are connected with the Illumanti which is the largest Satanic cult in the world). These Torah-believing Jews have stated that the Israelites (and there is a difference between an Israeli and an Israelite) were banished from the Promised Land by Divine Decree (in 70 AD) and are not permitted back without Divine Decree. Furthermore, the nation of Israel, the chosen people of God, started out as stateless nation of people. A nation by defination is simply a group of people - they don't necessarily have a state. "Israel" (not the political state, but what is referenced in the Bible) refers to the adopted children of God as well - the Christians. There is also a growing number of Christian Churches who are challenging the movement of Christian Zionism as a false teaching.
  

  
  

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  • cowgirlsr2
  on Jun. 30, 2009 at 12:59 AM

• It's just plain BS not matter what religion it would be.But what comes around goes around!!!
  

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  • Gypsyuma
  on Jun. 30, 2009 at 9:36 AM

• This country gives Israel almost 3.4 BILLION dollars a year.  Even our own country is going to shit, and we are still giving Israel a vital 3.4 BILLION dollars this year.  The USA is a country of a majority of Christians.  So what does Israel take and do with our money?  They pay for bulldozers (from America) to bulldoze over CHRISTIAN property, property owned by the Churches, just because it is Palestinians who are Christians.

  Do Christians differentiate between nationalities?  Because someone is a PALESTINIAN Christian, do you see that person any differently.  I know as a Muslim, that no matter what country you are from we are united in Islam.

  Does this affect your thinking about Israel at all, to see that they even turn against and trying to wipe out fellow Christians?

  
   

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  • Della529
  on Jun. 30, 2009 at 9:46 AM

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  Quoting Eilish:
  

  Quoting greenlover:

  Quoting Gypsyuma:
  
  

  Pretty pathetic..... how the evangelical Christians donate money and do everything possible to help the Zionists, who obviously have NO RESPECT for Christians when they are bulldozing the priests homes.

  Are the Zionists still the "CHOSEN ONES"?

  The Jewish people will always be the ones chosen by God.  However, we need to remember that they are human.  They have always rebelled against God (Old testament scripture shows this) and have not always followed his laws and commandments.  That does not make them any less chosen by God, only human.  That being said, please do not think I am saying that what they are doing is right.  I am not saying that at all.  I do not agree with everything they are doing.  I just think we need to be aware that just because they are chosen of God does not mean that everything they do is what God would want them to do.

  There are Torah-believing Jews who have denounced Zionism for being a fraud. These Jews have stated that the origins of Zionism do not respect the Torah or even the idea of a supernatural diety (and there is a conspiracy theory that they are connected with the Illumanti which is the largest Satanic cult in the world). These Torah-believing Jews have stated that the Israelites (and there is a difference between an Israeli and an Israelite) were banished from the Promised Land by Divine Decree (in 70 AD) and are not permitted back without Divine Decree. Furthermore, the nation of Israel, the chosen people of God, started out as stateless nation of people. A nation by defination is simply a group of people - they don't necessarily have a state. "Israel" (not the political state, but what is referenced in the Bible) refers to the adopted children of God as well - the Christians. There is also a growing number of Christian Churches who are challenging the movement of Christian Zionism as a false teaching.
  

  Looking to clarify, Eilish.  "They", being the Torah-believing Jews or the Zionists, are connected to the illuminati?
  

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  • Eilish
  on Jun. 30, 2009 at 11:16 AM

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  Quoting Della529:
  
  

  
  

  Quoting Eilish:
  

  Quoting greenlover:

  Quoting Gypsyuma:
  
  

  Pretty pathetic..... how the evangelical Christians donate money and do everything possible to help the Zionists, who obviously have NO RESPECT for Christians when they are bulldozing the priests homes.

  Are the Zionists still the "CHOSEN ONES"?

  The Jewish people will always be the ones chosen by God.  However, we need to remember that they are human.  They have always rebelled against God (Old testament scripture shows this) and have not always followed his laws and commandments.  That does not make them any less chosen by God, only human.  That being said, please do not think I am saying that what they are doing is right.  I am not saying that at all.  I do not agree with everything they are doing.  I just think we need to be aware that just because they are chosen of God does not mean that everything they do is what God would want them to do.

  There are Torah-believing Jews who have denounced Zionism for being a fraud. These Jews have stated that the origins of Zionism do not respect the Torah or even the idea of a supernatural diety (and there is a conspiracy theory that they are connected with the Illumanti which is the largest Satanic cult in the world). These Torah-believing Jews have stated that the Israelites (and there is a difference between an Israeli and an Israelite) were banished from the Promised Land by Divine Decree (in 70 AD) and are not permitted back without Divine Decree. Furthermore, the nation of Israel, the chosen people of God, started out as stateless nation of people. A nation by defination is simply a group of people - they don't necessarily have a state. "Israel" (not the political state, but what is referenced in the Bible) refers to the adopted children of God as well - the Christians. There is also a growing number of Christian Churches who are challenging the movement of Christian Zionism as a false teaching.
  

  Looking to clarify, Eilish.  "They", being the Torah-believing Jews or the Zionists, are connected to the illuminati?

  Forgive me ... the conspiracy theory is that Zionism is an extension of the Illuminati, NOT Torah-believing Jews.
  

  
  

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  • Talee
  on Jun. 30, 2009 at 11:50 AM

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  • Goodwoman614
  on Jun. 30, 2009 at 12:04 PM

• O.K, I'll say it, then: not all ppl accept or acknowledge that the Jewish ppl are the "chosen ones" of God.

  And that includes ppl of many different faiths, too. 

  This always bothered me, ever since I was a kid.  It is just like a kid at a playground who says, "nyah, nyah...I'm better than yoooouu!"

  Basic psychology of it is this: whenever ppl set themselves up as better than other ppl...therein lies the beginning step toward those better thans mistreating ppl who they (by definition of their beliefs) see as being less thans.

  I will never recognize any person or group of ppl as being somehow better than another person or group of ppl.  It's religion that does that, and it never ends well.

  
  

  
  

  
  

                                                                                                         
  

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