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Atheists Sue to Remove "In God We Trust"

 

The Star Tribune reports:

The nation's largest group of atheists and agnostics filed a lawsuit Tuesday seeking to block an architect from engraving "In God We Trust" and the Pledge of Allegiance at the Capitol Visitor Center in Washington.

The Madison-based Freedom From Religion Foundation's lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in western Wisconsin, claims the taxpayer-funded engravings would be an unconstitutional endorsement of religion.

The House and Senate passed identical resolutions this month directing the Architect of the Capitol to engrave "In God We Trust" and the pledge in prominent places at the entrance for 3 million tourists who visit the Capitol each year...

The foundation is seeking a court order to stop the engravings, which the Congressional Budget Office estimates will cost less than $100,000.

"In God We Trust" has been the national motto since 1956 and has appeared on U.S. currency since 1957.

The lawsuit says both the motto and the words "under God" in the pledge were adopted during the Cold War as anti-communism measures. Engraving them at the entrance to the U.S. Capitol would discriminate against those who do not practice religion and unfairly promote a Judeo-Christian perspective, it says.

Members of Congress who supported the measure swiftly denounced the lawsuit.

"This lawsuit is another attempt by liberal activists to rewrite history and deny that America's Judeo-Christian heritage is an essential foundation stone of our great nation," said Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa.
King has a valid point. On the one hand, this is typical atheist grandstanding. But these kinds of lawsuits are a very real threat to our country and shouldn't only bother religious people but anyone with common sense.

If you ignore God you ignore the source of all of our rights including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The whole idea of inviolable worth of each individual this country is based on is at heart a Christian concept. That's why the whole argument over whether the Founding Fathers were deists, theists or Christians is almost beside the point in that their whole frame of thinking was Christian. All of their assumptions were Christian.

One of the marks of tyranny is the refusal to grant personhood to "the other." You see it through history that when a government doesn't recognize the rights of certain individuals be they the disabled or a certain ethnic group a body count is sure to follow. Our Founding Fathers knew this and made our rights "unalienable" precisely because they emanated not from government but from God.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights."

If our country doesn't allow a God or a Creator to be acknowledged, our rights are therefore given or taken at the whim of the government.

Ironically, atheists have the right to protest in these asinine ways precisely because we are a Christian country. God help us and them if we cease to be.
 

http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2009/07/atheists-sue-to-remove-in-god-we-trust.html

by on Jul. 14, 2009 at 11:38 PM
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Da1nOnlyDestiny
by Bronze Member on Jul. 18, 2009 at 12:00 AM

THIS~!

Quoting mrs_khan07:

I think before we worry about taking religious aspects off of currency we should think about getting it out of the schools. I am a very religious person so this is not a biased statement. My reasoning for this is that there are actually quite a few children being raised in athiest homes. I am not one to judge, I have quite a few athiest friends and I love them just as much as my religious friends. The problem is that it is harder for children to understand these things than it is for adults. Adults are the ones reading the currency, children are the ones hearing it in school. If a child is raised in an athiest home and hears about God in school it will be very confusing for them. School is no place for religion, if you want your child to be in a religious school, there are plenty of those.

That being said, I don't like that God's name is on the US currency because it is also covered in Pagan symbols. The two just don't go together. If our currency is going to show Pagan symbols it should probably say god"s" not God.


blondekosmic15
by on Jul. 18, 2009 at 2:01 AM

 

Quoting Je_Jette_Poo:


Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting mom4life2009:

In His word we are told not to fear 365 times...I'm not afraid because our God is in control of it all.  Even this is apart of His plan.  What we need to do is to see God's love in every circumstance.  And not to lean on our own understanding.


Yes, God in his infinite wisdom & mercy can draw good out of every situation....

Yeah, his "infinite wisdom and mercy". That's a crock of shit. I have seen NOTHING good come from God. It's really nice when a woman gets kicked out of a church and told NOT to come back because she got a divorce from a man who beat the shit out of her. What a nice guy.


And God told the Minister & parishners to do this?! Obviously you have lil' understanding about God's love n' mercy. I assume your children are young still. You better hope that they only behave exactly the way you have instructed them to when they grow up or maybe someone will comdemn you & spout off anger as you have toward God b/c of your children's behavior. Some Priests & Ministers fail to follow the Biblical teachings of Jesus Christ & practice their own beliefs contrary to the Gospels. Sadly you sound as if you have much anger w/ in your heart by your own comments which has nothin' to do w/ God but a more deeply rooted problem which only God has the power to heal....

blondekosmic15
by on Jul. 18, 2009 at 2:04 AM


Quoting Della529:

Goes both ways.  I doubt seriously God feels the need to be emphasized on money.  How many other currencies have included a reference to God?

Silly atheists Christians, don't they know that by just removing adding His name from to things isn't going to make Him somehow go away return.  

 


God loves it when his children acknowledge him in every way..thru out all aspects of their lives...

mrs_khan07
by Silver Member on Jul. 18, 2009 at 2:13 AM


Quoting blondekosmic15:


Quoting Della529:

Goes both ways.  I doubt seriously God feels the need to be emphasized on money.  How many other currencies have included a reference to God?

Silly atheists Christians, don't they know that by just removing adding His name from to things isn't going to make Him somehow go away return.  



God loves it when his children acknowledge him in every way..thru out all aspects of their lives...

Yes, but God is also very against worshipping false idols. While I am aware that His name on the dollar bill is not being worshipped by those who believe, there are false idols on the dollar bill. Such as the sun god of Egypt. Now, set aside your severe dislike of me for a second, do you think He would rather we didn't put His name on a piece of paper that contains a drawing of a false idol? The very same false idol that was worshipped in Egypt which helped set in motion the exodus of the Jews from Egypt? I am not coming from a biased point of view, you know this.

Mrs. Khan

christan723
by Member on Jul. 18, 2009 at 10:17 AM

these people need to get a life. when there on there death bed i like to see how fast thay say there is no GOD

jacquesmom2002
by New Member on Jul. 18, 2009 at 7:02 PM

AMEN and enough said!!

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