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Could moon landings have been faked? Some still think so

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(CNN) -- It captivated millions of people around the world for eight days in the summer of 1969. It brought glory to the embattled U.S. space program and inspired beliefs that anything was possible.

Moon landing hoax theorists point to the

Moon landing hoax theorists point to the "rippling" flag as evidence the landings were faked.

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It's arguably the greatest technological feat of the 20th century.

And to some, it was all a lie.

Forty years after Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin set foot on the moon, a small cult of conspiracy theorists maintains the historic event -- and the five subsequent Apollo moon landings -- were staged. These people believe NASA fabricated the landings to trump their Soviet rivals and fulfill President Kennedy's goal of ferrying humans safely to and from the moon by the end of the 1960s.

"I do know the moon landings were faked," said crusading filmmaker Bart Sibrel, whose aggressive interview tactics once provoked Aldrin to punch him in the face. "I'd bet my life on it."

Sibrel may seem crazy, but he has company. A 1999 Gallup poll found that a scant 6 percent of Americans doubted the Apollo 11 moon landing happened, and there is anecdotal evidence that the ranks of such conspiracy theorists, fueled by innuendo-filled documentaries and the Internet, are growing.

Twenty-five percent of respondents to a survey in the British magazine Engineering & Technology said they do not believe humans landed on the moon. A handful of Web sites and blogs circulate suspicions about NASA's "hoax."

And a Google search this week for "Apollo moon landing hoax" yielded more than 1.5 billion results.

"We love conspiracies," said Roger Launius, a senior curator at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington. "Going to the moon is hard to understand. And it's easier for some people to accept the answer that, 'Well, maybe we didn't go to the moon.' A lot of it is naivete."

Conspiracy theories about the Apollo missions began not long after the last astronaut returned from the moon in 1972. Bill Kaysing, a technical writer for Rocketdyne, which built rocket engines for NASA's Apollo program, published a 1974 book, "We Never Went to the Moon: America's Thirty Billion Dollar Swindle."

In the book and elsewhere, Kaysing argued that NASA lacked the technology in 1969 to land humans safely on the moon, that the Apollo astronauts would have been poisoned by passing through the Van Allen radiation belts that ring the Earth and that NASA's photos from the moon contained suspicious anomalies. Video See improved NASA footage of the 1969 moonwalk »

Kaysing theorized NASA sent the Apollo 11 astronauts up in a rocket until it was out of sight, then transferred the lunar capsule and its three passengers to a military cargo plane that dropped the capsule eight days later in the Pacific, where it was recovered. In the meantime, he believed, NASA officials filmed the "moon landing" at Area 51, the high-security military base in the Nevada desert, and brainwashed the astronauts to ensure their cooperation.

Some believe Kaysing's theories inspired the 1978 movie "Capricorn One," in which NASA fakes a Mars landing on a remote military base, then goes to desperate lengths to cover it up. Others insist NASA recruited director Stanley Kubrick, hot off "2001: A Space Odyssey," to film the "faked" moon landings.

Oh, and those moon rocks? Lunar meteorites from Antarctica.

Decades later, Kaysing's beliefs formed the foundation for "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?" a sensational 2001 Fox TV documentary that spotted eerie "inconsistencies" in NASA's Apollo images and TV footage.

Among them: no blast craters are visible under the landing modules; shadows intersect instead of running parallel, suggesting the presence of an unnatural light source; and a planted American flag appears to ripple in a breeze although there's no wind on the moon.

The hour-long special sparked such interest in the topic that NASA took the unusual step of issuing a news release and posting a point-by-point rebuttal on its Web site. The press release began: "Yes. Astronauts did land on the moon."

In various documents, NASA has countered that the Apollo astronauts passed through the Van Allen belts too quickly to be exposed to dangerous levels of radiation; that the module's descent engines weren't powerful enough to leave a blast crater; that the shadows in photos were distorted by wide-angle lenses and sloping lunar terrain; and that the Apollo flags had horizontal support bars that made the flags swing.

Kaysing died in 2005, but not before grabbing the attention of Sibrel, a Nashville, Tennessee, filmmaker who has since become the most visible proponent of the Apollo hoax theories. With funding from an anonymous donor, Sibrel wrote and directed a 47-minute documentary in 2001 that reiterated many of the now-familiar hoax arguments.

Critics of moon-landing hoax theorists, and there are many, say it would be impossible for tens of thousands of NASA employees and Apollo contractors to keep such a whopping secret for almost four decades.

But Sibrel believes the Apollo program was so compartmentalized that only its astronauts and a handful of high-level NASA officials knew the entire story. Sibrel spent years ambushing Apollo astronauts and insisting they swear on a Bible before his cameras that they walked on the moon.

"When someone has gotten away with a crime, in my opinion, they deserve to be ambushed," Sibrel said. "I'm a journalist trying to get at the truth."

In an episode made infamous on YouTube, Sibrel confronted Aldrin in 2002 and called him "a coward, a liar and a thief." Aldrin, then 72, socked the thirtysomething Sibrel in the face, knocking him backwards.

"I don't want to call attention to the individuals who are trying to promote and shuffle off this hoax on people," Aldrin told CNN in a recent interview. "I feel sorry for the gullible people who're going to go along with them. I guess it's just natural human reaction to want to be a part of 'knowing something that somebody doesn't know.' But it's misguided. It's just a shame."

It's been 37 years since the last Apollo moon mission, and tens of millions of younger Americans have no memories of watching the moon landings live. A 2005-2006 poll by Mary Lynne Dittmar, a space consultant based in Houston, Texas, found that more than a quarter of Americans 18 to 25 expressed some doubt that humans set foot on the moon.

"As the number of people who were not yet born at the time of the Apollo program increases, the number of questions [about the moon landings] also may increase," NASA said in a statement. "Conspiracy theories are always difficult to refute because of the impossibility of proving a negative."

Launius, the National Air and Space Museum curator, believes Apollo conspiracy theories resonate with people who are disengaged from society and distrustful of government. He also believes their numbers are overblown.

"These diehards are really vocal, but they're really tiny," he said.

But Stuart Robbins, a Ph.D. candidate in astrophysics at the University of Colorado who gives lectures defending NASA from Apollo hoax theorists, believes their influence can be harmful.

"If people don't think we were able to go to the moon, then they don't believe in the ingenuity of human achievement," he said. "Going to the moon and returning astronauts safely back to Earth is arguably one of the most profound achievements in human history, and so when people simply believe it was a hoax, they lose out on that shared experience and doubt what humans can do."

In its information campaign against Apollo's "debunkers," NASA may have a potent ace up its sleeve, however. Its Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter is now circling the moon with powerful cameras, snapping crisp pictures that could reveal Apollo 11's Eagle lander squatting on the moon's surface.

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Then again, conspiracy theorists may just say NASA doctored the photos.

"Will the LRO's incredibly high-resolution images of the lunar surface, including, eventually, the Apollo landing sites, finally quell the lunacy of the Moon Hoax believers? Obviously it won't," writes astronomer Phil Plait in his blog on Discover magazine's Web site. "These true believers don't live in an evidence-based world."

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by on Jul. 17, 2009 at 3:38 PM
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Della529
by Matlock on Jul. 17, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Maybe...maybe not.  I don't know.  

A few hopefully, thought-provoking questions, though...are we faking the shuttle launches that derived from the NASA programs?  Did we fake the 1986 Challenger explosion just after lift-off?  Did we fake the 2003 Columbia explosion upon it's re-entry?  

We've come a long way in the 40 years since the moon, have we not?

mamaof32007
by on Jul. 17, 2009 at 5:54 PM

I dont think we went to the moon, at that time.  I do believe we have been there by now.  I watched a show on the discovery channel.  It showed area pics of area 51 and they over lapped it with pics of the moon and they matched, ect, ect.  I think it was just a big race and we (the U.S) wanted to win against Russia so They staged a whole ordeal of us making it to the moon.  JMO.

Della529
by Matlock on Jul. 17, 2009 at 5:59 PM


Quoting Eilish:


Quoting Godgaveme4:

First, I love the Mythbusters.

Now on to the topic.  This is one of those topics that my husband and I are always joking about.  We cannot figure out why someone would say it was fake.  But when you look at all of the other conspiracy theory topics it starts to make sense.  People are crazy.

Not meant to hurt anyones feelings...especially if you are a Conspiracy nut.

There are crazy people out there, and I certainly don't believe every conspiracy theory that I come across. But that shouldn't also mean that we right off seemingly quack-job ideas, just because it is "crazy." Even some theories have some truth to them.

Example. There is a theory that our government (and really all governments) are under control by a board of international bankers. I have stated this, and many others have stated this. The theory goes on for some that the bankers are Jews. It goes further on to say that they are Zionists, and then further to say that they are Illuminati. Here's how I break it down.

First, I believe that there are a board of unidentified bankers controlling most every government action in the world. However, if they are true blue Jews, then they are not Zionists and not Illuminati. But I also don't believe they are true blue Jews, because this doesn't follow in line with Biblical prophecy or the role Biblical Israel plays in the world. If they are Zionists they cannot be true blue Jews because Zionists do not recognize the diety of God, much less believe in the Torah. They are merely using Israel as a facade. If they are Zionists, they *could* also be Illuminati, but that can only be true, if the separate conspiracy saying that they are connected, is true. If they are Illuminati, then it would make sense as far as the Biblical prophecy of the end times, as the Antichrist will govern the whole world, with an impostor creation (read fiat currency, gmo food and plants, cloning, a single religion which eliminates all religions, etc). Furthermore we know that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil .... and bankers LOVE their money.

Eilish, I don't know that I can continue with the belief it's only a "Zionist/Illuminati" conspiracy.  Mayer A. Rothschild died in 1812, decades before the Zionist movement.  I won't go into detail here in this forum, but if you will add an original post, I would like to respond.

Eilish
by on Jul. 17, 2009 at 6:04 PM


Quoting Della529:


Quoting Eilish:


Quoting Godgaveme4:

First, I love the Mythbusters.

Now on to the topic.  This is one of those topics that my husband and I are always joking about.  We cannot figure out why someone would say it was fake.  But when you look at all of the other conspiracy theory topics it starts to make sense.  People are crazy.

Not meant to hurt anyones feelings...especially if you are a Conspiracy nut.

There are crazy people out there, and I certainly don't believe every conspiracy theory that I come across. But that shouldn't also mean that we right off seemingly quack-job ideas, just because it is "crazy." Even some theories have some truth to them.

Example. There is a theory that our government (and really all governments) are under control by a board of international bankers. I have stated this, and many others have stated this. The theory goes on for some that the bankers are Jews. It goes further on to say that they are Zionists, and then further to say that they are Illuminati. Here's how I break it down.

First, I believe that there are a board of unidentified bankers controlling most every government action in the world. However, if they are true blue Jews, then they are not Zionists and not Illuminati. But I also don't believe they are true blue Jews, because this doesn't follow in line with Biblical prophecy or the role Biblical Israel plays in the world. If they are Zionists they cannot be true blue Jews because Zionists do not recognize the diety of God, much less believe in the Torah. They are merely using Israel as a facade. If they are Zionists, they *could* also be Illuminati, but that can only be true, if the separate conspiracy saying that they are connected, is true. If they are Illuminati, then it would make sense as far as the Biblical prophecy of the end times, as the Antichrist will govern the whole world, with an impostor creation (read fiat currency, gmo food and plants, cloning, a single religion which eliminates all religions, etc). Furthermore we know that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil .... and bankers LOVE their money.

Eilish, I don't know that I can continue with the belief it's only a "Zionist/Illuminati" conspiracy.  Mayer A. Rothschild died in 1812, decades before the Zionist movement.  I won't go into detail here in this forum, but if you will add an original post, I would like to respond.

PM me .... I know the Zionist movement happened later, ,but the illuminati in its various forms have been around since Biblical times.


mommy2isabella
by on Jul. 17, 2009 at 9:16 PM

I'm torn on this, while I do believe it's true some of the facts just don't add up. 

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mommajen32
by Platinum Member on Jul. 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM

I watched MythBusters.

Originally when I heard the conspiracy it made me scratch my head, but I'm a believer that it happened.

Talk about conspiracies, what about the Flat Earth Society ...

 http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

 

ellieemc2
by on Jul. 18, 2009 at 2:44 PM

I sat and watched it on TV too and always wondered why, if they had the technology to go to the moon, why then didn't they have better cameras and reception. And black & white yet. Funny, I recall later shots of moon landings and those were in color.

ellieemc2
by on Jul. 18, 2009 at 7:32 PM


Quoting Mom2LiamNMolly:

I know an astronaut who landed on the moon.... trust me... the joy he STILL gets in his eyes and face when he talks about it... no way it was faked. Period. End of Story. It's another damned conspiracy theory.... right up there with Elvis is really Michael Jackson.


Interesting!! I knew a couple guys who landed on the moon as well and they STILL talk about it after ALL these years. Thing is, they didn't call themselves Astronauts...just Space Cadets! End of story......

Godgaveme4
by Platinum Member on Jul. 18, 2009 at 7:38 PM


Quoting mommajen32:

Talk about conspiracies, what about the Flat Earth Society ...

 http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm


I had never heard of this group or theory before.  Very interesting.....I don't agree but just shows how people can find data and "proof" to prove any theory they believe.

ashnevlex
by on Jul. 18, 2009 at 8:49 PM

I'm one of the 6% that believes it was faked. 

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