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Police reject candidate for being too intelligent

Posted by on Aug. 21, 2009 at 10:07 AM
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Police reject candidate for being too intelligent

A US man has been rejected in his bid to become a police officer for scoring too high on an intelligence test.

Robert Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took an exam to join the New London police, in Connecticut, in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125.

But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

Mr Jordan launched a federal lawsuit against the city, but lost.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court's decision that the city did not discriminate against Mr Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.

He said: "This kind of puts an official face on discrimination in America against people of a certain class. I maintain you have no more control over your basic intelligence than your eye color or your gender or anything else."

He said he does not plan to take any further legal action and has worked as a prison guard since he took the test.

The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.




Ok this is just ridiculous and then we wonder about police brutality and them making ignorant decisions. (not saying all cops are like this just that it happens too much) I think he should have won his lawsuit what do you think?

by on Aug. 21, 2009 at 10:07 AM
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Gretchen2876
by Silver Member on Aug. 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Wow, that's just crazy! 

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JakeandEmmasMom
by Platinum Member on Aug. 21, 2009 at 10:14 AM

I'm sort of torn on this one, to be honest.  On the one hand, discrimination is obviously wrong.  On the other hand, I understand the need of the police department to have intelligence standards.  It seems obvious that police officers should be required to pass a minimum standard of intelligence.  And, they make a good argument for also having a maximum standard.  So, I'm torn. 

Peanutx3
by Ruby Member on Aug. 21, 2009 at 11:22 AM

What does police brutality have to do with intelligence?  People can be brilliant and still commit crimes of police brutality and discrimination.  A persons intelligence says nothing aobut their personality or beliefs.

Quoting angelachristine:

Ok this is just ridiculous and then we wonder about police brutality and them making ignorant decisions. (not saying all cops are like this just that it happens too much) I think he should have won his lawsuit what do you think?


dustinsmom1
by JENN on Aug. 21, 2009 at 1:58 PM

 Both myself and my SO have lost  chances at good jobs in the past because they said we were "overqualified", is it discrimination? I don't think so, if your not right for the job...your just not right.

 


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aimige
by on Aug. 21, 2009 at 2:00 PM

12 years ago, before hubby became active duty in the National Guard, he applied around town and was told he was "over qualified" and couldn't get a job...

ephinany
by on Aug. 21, 2009 at 2:04 PM

do we wonder why....

Stefanie1085
by Silver Member on Aug. 21, 2009 at 2:06 PM


Quoting dustinsmom1:

 Both myself and my SO have lost  chances at good jobs in the past because they said we were "overqualified", is it discrimination? I don't think so, if your not right for the job...your just not right.

But shouldn't you be able to decide if a job is right for you or not? What if you really need a job, any job, and can't get one because you are 'overqualified'? I really wanted to be in this radiology school, but got turned down for being 'too smart'. I still want to be one, but had to go a different direction because they thought I really wouldn't like the job...

angelachristine
by Bronze Member on Aug. 21, 2009 at 2:14 PM

I'm not saying smart people can't be brutal too but through my psychology and sociology classes they always said the lower the intelligence the higher the chance of violence.  You can observe it even in the animal kingdom.

Those that are not as smart are more prone to violence also when you get a bunch of people in one small area (as an example the projects, jail etc...) you will find way more violence also.

Quoting Peanutx3:

What does police brutality have to do with intelligence?  People can be brilliant and still commit crimes of police brutality and discrimination.  A persons intelligence says nothing aobut their personality or beliefs.

Quoting angelachristine:

Ok this is just ridiculous and then we wonder about police brutality and them making ignorant decisions. (not saying all cops are like this just that it happens too much) I think he should have won his lawsuit what do you think?



ajlaela
by New Member on Aug. 21, 2009 at 2:16 PM

he was too smart to get a position with the reg police but not too smart to be a prison guard? and he's still doin it after all these years after applyin to the police force....their studies must be off somewhere

JakeandEmmasMom
by Platinum Member on Aug. 21, 2009 at 2:17 PM

I didn't realize that the disciplines of psychology and sociology were teaching that poverty and crime were a function of intelligence.  Interesting.

Quoting angelachristine:

I'm not saying smart people can't be brutal too but through my psychology and sociology classes they always said the lower the intelligence the higher the chance of violence.  You can observe it even in the animal kingdom.

Those that are not as smart are more prone to violence also when you get a bunch of people in one small area (as an example the projects, jail etc...) you will find way more violence also.

Quoting Peanutx3:

What does police brutality have to do with intelligence?  People can be brilliant and still commit crimes of police brutality and discrimination.  A persons intelligence says nothing aobut their personality or beliefs.

Quoting angelachristine:

Ok this is just ridiculous and then we wonder about police brutality and them making ignorant decisions. (not saying all cops are like this just that it happens too much) I think he should have won his lawsuit what do you think?

 

 


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