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ladies i need some help im at my wits end

Posted by on May. 9, 2012 at 12:37 AM
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We have a 6yr DS that is really behaving poorly. He is my SS but only knows me as mom and we raise him together have for 3 years. My dh and I have no idea what else to try. He started kindergarten in September which was just 3 months before he turned 6 and even then I questioned if he was ready but since my DD was starting kindergarten daddy didn't want him feeling left out. So anyway he struggled for awhile with anxiety and still does occasionally. But now he won't stop stealing, lying, refusing to do work and that's just a start. At home he will blatantly ignore anything asked of him. He will take toys from the younger kids. When eating dinner at the table he will play constantly throwing his arms around playing drums with hus silverware banging his cup around. In the car he will take the paci out of our 3.5month old baby's mouth. He will unbuckled her from her seat. He was moved to the back seat next to our oldest daughter but still on the side so only one was next to him. He then would say she pinched him or bit him but would then give this odd grin and she would insist she didn't do it and its not like her to do something like that. She is 11yrs old. DS will then pull her hair (I have seen him do it ) and then swear he didn't and when told to stop and keep his hands to himself he will slump in his booster and start kicking the seat in front of him where our baby and oldest DS is sitting. He won't go to bed when asked even with sleep aids prescribed to him. Last night he was up till after 1am and then was awake when I went to wake him at 630a for school.

I nor his dad have any idea how to get him under control. We have taken privileges away sat him in timeout which he will refuse and battle for hours. We have tried talking to him tried spanking. We do reward charts for good behavior. We put him in therapy last August which helped the anxiety but not this yet. Oh and we spend an hour or two with each one individually. Anyone have any ideas how to help this. This used to only happen every once in awhile but in the last two weeks it has become a constant thing. He used to be our best behaved aside from our 11yr old. I don't know what has gotten into him.

Here is an example of what happened at school the last two weeks :
A has refused to follow directions. He has ran away. Hid under the computer table. Asked him to come to me (teacher) and he refused. He also went to the computer and was pulling on the headphones and microphone pulling on it to tear it apart. I asked him to stop and he ran off.

Keep in mind this isn't a regular thing till just two or three weeks ago. He doesn't appear to have adhd but maybe I'm wrong or am missing something. Anyone have any ideas? TIA
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frndlyfn
by Platinum Member on May. 9, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Hmm If it has been a sudden change I would wonder if something happened at school and he isnt telling someone.  Acting out seems to be his way to express frustration.  Is there any way the school nurse or psychologist can talk with him when he acts up?  Is he passing any tests that his teacher gives?

bellawomen
by Member on May. 9, 2012 at 12:44 AM
You need to get him evaluated by a behavioral therapist to rule out anything and they can help you set up some discipline that will help.
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lfrrll5
by on May. 9, 2012 at 12:48 AM
He spoke to the principal. But sees his therapist next week. The tests were done today. He doesn't take many just a few but normally does well. He is doing single digit addition and subtraction and reads kindergarten books. So he appears fine grade level wise his behavior is just a mess


Quoting frndlyfn:

Hmm If it has been a sudden change I would wonder if something happened at school and he isnt telling someone.  Acting out seems to be his way to express frustration.  Is there any way the school nurse or psychologist can talk with him when he acts up?  Is he passing any tests that his teacher gives?


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lfrrll5
by on May. 9, 2012 at 12:49 AM
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He goes to a therapist at our county mental health and is in the middle of testing. Just trying to get ideas in the mean time


Quoting bellawomen:

You need to get him evaluated by a behavioral therapist to rule out anything and they can help you set up some discipline that will help.

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tiredmom675
by on May. 9, 2012 at 12:51 AM
He sounds just like my son. I had to take home off of red dye, processed food its vry hard. Sample of our daily meal: breakfast french toast, bacon, fruit, milk. Snack fruit, lunch home made taco pockets, snack veggie,, dinner pork chops, baked potato, salad, bedtime snack yogurt. When I was doing research I thought there its no way this is going to work, and no easy am I going to be able yo cook like this. it was hard I the beginning but after about a eek I saw a difference and it made me keep going. Now I can let him have fast food once a eek, or a candy but NEVER I the same day. Also you should have him help meaning my son would not get up in the mornings without a fight so his chore is setting te table for family breakfast. I would be willing to help with ideas, please let me know if I can help. I understand and can leand and ear and give you some pointers. Sory for misspellings I am posting from my phone. Lol
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frndlyfn
by Platinum Member on May. 9, 2012 at 12:52 AM

I have the extremely energetic dd.  She started kinder at age 5 and turned 6 in march.  She is very book smart but lacking in alot of fine motor,gross motor and communication.  Now with a month and half left she is getting the extra help she needs.  The specialists who evaluated her just said she is a high energy child.  We are working on keeping her still to complete longer projects for school and at home.

I would talk to the therapist to see what they think.  Do choose one discipline method and just stay with that one instead of trying every method out there.  For dd we give one warning and she loses a privelege.

Quoting lfrrll5:

He spoke to the principal. But sees his therapist next week. The tests were done today. He doesn't take many just a few but normally does well. He is doing single digit addition and subtraction and reads kindergarten books. So he appears fine grade level wise his behavior is just a mess


Quoting frndlyfn:

Hmm If it has been a sudden change I would wonder if something happened at school and he isnt telling someone.  Acting out seems to be his way to express frustration.  Is there any way the school nurse or psychologist can talk with him when he acts up?  Is he passing any tests that his teacher gives?



hopealways4019
by Bronze Member on May. 9, 2012 at 10:44 AM
Maybe he got some type of behavioral issue. Might need to be evaluated.
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love-javier
by Bronze Member on May. 9, 2012 at 10:54 AM
I agree I wiuld ask the therapist about the behavior because if you don't nip that in the butt now its going to be way worse. I don't spank my kids often..its a last resort and they know its an option. Physical violence is not tolerated at all. Just the fact his mother is not in the picture is provably a big reason. Always communicate and don't budge. Even if you need to keep putting him in bed 20 times. Don't lose your cool and don't give in. If there is a TV in his room make sure its off. Try And have a somewhat set routine at home and reward good behavior even if its just with praise and positive attention. Children need and want boundaries. Your doing a great job and have tried everything else I can think of.
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LindaClement
by Linda on May. 9, 2012 at 5:36 PM

It sounds like you've proven sufficiently to yourself that controlling another human being, by means of punishment, threats, bribes, nagging, criticizing, complaining or blaming, is actually impossible.

I would recommend reading Choice Theory, by William Glasser for a thorough and well-researched description of why none of that works and what 'works' very well.

lfrrll5
by on May. 9, 2012 at 10:07 PM
How else would you recommend handling him when he refuses to do school work or is stealing things or wont anything except junkfood. I don't want him getting in the habit of doing this on a regular basis. I will try to find time to read the book but with 7 kids its rare for me to have any time to do things like that. I do good to find time for cafemom. Oh and I hope I didn't come off wrong I really meant to tell me how you'd handle it.


Quoting LindaClement:

It sounds like you've proven sufficiently to yourself that controlling another human being, by means of punishment, threats, bribes, nagging, criticizing, complaining or blaming, is actually impossible.

I would recommend reading Choice Theory, by William Glasser for a thorough and well-researched description of why none of that works and what 'works' very well.


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