Beating a 2 y.o. with a belt?? (updated)

IMO, no don't call unless you know for sure because they live below you and you have children and live alone.

I came on here for advice about witnessing a 3 year old get hit by a belt by my exfriend, and some other mind blowing things...well my profile wasnt on private i guess I gave too much detail and CPS was at my dh's store asking for me the next morning because some member had reported it by finding my local CPS based on my info and used my ABOUT ME section for them to locate me...tsk tsk 

Since then, the girl has been a nightmare, they will know YOU called even tho its anonymous...they won't take the kids away they just pop in every now and then do a drug test or two and get a warrant to search the house and ask the kid some questions...anyways the girl harassed my mother (dh and i went overseas to visit family for 1 month) she harrassed the people at our store, now shes handing my dh love letters and when my dh didn't respond because we are a smoke shop she told the police we are selling "illegal substances" and calls my dh demanding to know if he is and said the police are going to raid our store which is b.s. She drives by our store everyday, and drives near our house a lot and lives nowhere near us...her dh just went back to jail for theft i mean this girl is nuts! so since then weve been harassed nonstop

Listen, don't get involved...these people out there these days their life is going to jail and back they dont have a life and once you try to mess with them they will try to destroy you in the worst way possible--Ive been losing sleep over mine so please dont get involved.

Sad as it is, wait. You heard a verbal threat, no proof there. I know it's horrible to think of that poor baby being subjected to such ill treatment, but honestly, unless there are OBVIOUS signs/proof of abuse, nothing will be done, and they'll seek revenge. Leave it alone...for now. If there are further problems, and you can see signs of abuse/witness it, then move forward.

Quoting emmy526:

around here, if you call with even a suspicion of abuse, they are at that  house THAT DAY investigating. 

Quoting k_hall1784:

And tell them what exactly? "Ummmm, I heard my neighbors scream at their two year old. I also heard them threaten that child with a belt." I'm pretty sure they would ask you if you have any proof such as actually seeing them beat him, or any visible marks. If your answer is "No" then they would probably tell you to have a nice day.

Quoting emmy526:

regardless, threatening a 2yr old,,, a 2yr old!!! with screaming and threats of ' getting the belt'  is going to get the child to comply?  Believe me, if i EVER heard my neighbor treating their child that way, i'd call in a heartbeat. 

Quoting bbmkfo03:

 At this point since there isn't any proof (proof meaning if you heard a belt whipping, child screaming after or saw the child with marks on his body) I wouldn't report it but I'd defintely keep an eye out for these people. Good luck. 

Unless you SEE something like that happen, you don't really know what is going on.  Two year olds scream... some of them scream a lot... if you have one like mine, sometimes they scream as loud as they can for as long as they can because you turned off the light and THEY wanted to or you forgot to bring water upstairs for bedtime and you had to leave for two seconds to retreive it and they are overtired and don't really know what it is they want. 

My point here is that just because a child was screaming doesn't mean there was something serious going on, and parents, especially tired ones, don't always respond in the most appropriate ways.  I don't agree with belting a two yr old (or anyone for that matter), but I've been guilty of threatening to do this or that (like spank or swat or take away their toy or what have you) because I can't think clearly or I'm grumpy or I just can't take the damn screaming over trivial things anymore... it happens.  Now if you SEE them use a belt on him, by all means, please call CPS... if you suspect they use a belt on them (like you see welts or hear him threaten it followed by a cracking sound), call CPS... just don't call CPS over a threat that was probably an empty one.

 You're right. But I do have to say that the children in that home are not taken care of correctly. I opened my door one morning to find that little boy sitting in front of my door, playing with my mat. I live on the second floor, and he couldn't walk yet. He had gotten out the front door, climbed the stairs, and was sitting literally a foot from the edge of a flight of stairs. I was leaving at the time, so I locked my door, tried to help him stand up and walk down the stairs, when I learned he couldn't stand on his own, I carried him downstairs. The door was closed. I had to knock on it, and the 6 yo opened it, never said a word, when he crawled in, she shut it.. If there had been only one instance of something out of the norm, to call WOULD be absurd. But it's not the first time. Far from it. It's just the first time that I could make out what he's yelling about all the time.

Quoting k_hall1784:

You see, that's just it. There is no suspicion. Just an adult screaming at a child. As I stated earlier, if this is a daily occurence, then that may warrant a cause of suspicion. But to hear someone yell at a two year old once and call abuse is absurd.

Quoting emmy526:

around here, if you call with even a suspicion of abuse, they are at that  house THAT DAY investigating. 

Quoting k_hall1784:

And tell them what exactly? "Ummmm, I heard my neighbors scream at their two year old. I also heard them threaten that child with a belt." I'm pretty sure they would ask you if you have any proof such as actually seeing them beat him, or any visible marks. If your answer is "No" then they would probably tell you to have a nice day.

Quoting emmy526:

regardless, threatening a 2yr old,,, a 2yr old!!! with screaming and threats of ' getting the belt'  is going to get the child to comply?  Believe me, if i EVER heard my neighbor treating their child that way, i'd call in a heartbeat. 

Quoting bbmkfo03:

 At this point since there isn't any proof (proof meaning if you heard a belt whipping, child screaming after or saw the child with marks on his body) I wouldn't report it but I'd defintely keep an eye out for these people. Good luck. 

 

 

 Leave it alone. You have no reason to call CPS because you heard someone threatening the child. I'm not saying that it is right in any way, but there are children out here really being abused, they don't need a phone call from you about something you don't know for sure. If you had solid proof that the child was being abused, ok. But since you don't, just mind your own business.

 there is a reason you heard this.  it was put in your hands.  now what do you do with it?  ah, yes, you could wait until you see the child and the broken arm or you could admit that this child is living with a broken spirit now and desperately needs help from someone who cares.  not that it matters, but it was after midnight.  what is a two year old doing up?  probably had a bad dream, maybe hungry, maybe a new diaper but the boyfriend instead wanted to threaten a two year old??? with a belt beating. are you kidding?  if you don't call, you have to live every day the rest of your life knowing you could have helped, and chose not to.  its not always easy to do the right thing, but its always right.

Well no dont call if he was only saying and not actually doing it...trust me u would have heard it if he did do it. But who's to say that spanking with a belt is a need to call CPS on anyone.