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Discipline Advice

Posted by on Aug. 3, 2012 at 9:09 PM
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Hi Ladies, I am curious what you would do in my situation. Any inspiration would be greatly appreciated!! 

My daughter is 6yrs old and she has been spoiled. When she was born i had so many plans for her, and spoiling her was definitely not one of them. She is an only child and the first girl in the in law's family in YEARS, so they have gone hog wild on spoiling her and as a Mom I want to be able to poil her now and then too. I have asked that the in laws not spoil her & make her follow basic rules of ettiquette and manners but they just can't say 'No' to her. Hence, I have a spoiled 'brat'...LOL.

Lately my daughter's behavior has escelated & she runs over her Dad (he interacts with her like a sibling...playing/fighting and tattling to me as she tattles on him for 'being mean' when he gets fed up with her antagonistic antics). I have to step in and lay down the law & she obeys. . . usually.

Last week her behavior was so 'sppoiled brat' that I knew I had to do something. She was using the word 'ass' and getting into things I asked her to stay out of, and coming right back out after being sent to her room. I grounded her; I took away her TV from her bedroom and all of her toys and told her she could earn them back one by one. The last two days she has been amazing, behaving very well!! I allowed her to go to a block party with me in my neighborhood. She won a hula hoop contest, danced, played ping-pong, ate different dessert foods, and had a blast. The next day she started acting out again, telling me "I'm BORED" all day long in spite of me giving her little tasks & fun activities throughout the day. She said "I want to go to Disneyland or the beach!!"

Today she asked for an ice cream, I told her she could have ONE. She ate it then asked for another. I told her 'No' then she went and asked her Dad and he said 'No' then she proceeded to the freezer and got one anyway. He told her to put it back and she giggled at him and continued to open it. I came in the room (I was down the hall doing laundry) and swatted her butt and sent her to her room. After 10 minutes I let her come out & told her "You are grounded again, that was unacceptable"

My husband and I were invited to a birthday party (his step-dad's daughter) and we were going to go but I thought about it. The in laws will be there, at the home of the biggest offender in spoiling my daughter. I told my husband "We can't go. There are two options; we go and I make our daughter sit in a chair next to me & listen to her complain all day or we just don't go".  If we go, the biggest offender will have a little pool set up, balloons, tons of cake & ice cream & activities for my daughter and everyone would be (like always) telling me I am being too hard on her, etc., and try to talk me into letting my daughter run wild and play in spite of being grounded. My husband did not respond.

What would you do? My daughter can behave so well until she gets bored, but she's high energy and I could give her activites until I was exhausted and it would not be enough. . .when she gets bored she starts misbehaving. Do I decline all offers to go to parties to stay home and keep her grounded, or do I go & let her off for the day so we can all let off some steam?? Babysitter is not an option (when I am working the biggest offender of spoiling picks her up from daycare...that's all I've got).

How would you handle this?

A. Stay home and be bored while enforcing punishment?

B. Go and let the whole family have fun for a day then go back to grounding?

C. Something else?


Thanks for reading this 'novel' LOL....

Posted by on Aug. 3, 2012 at 9:09 PM
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mybabysmama35
by Member on Aug. 3, 2012 at 9:36 PM
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I would choose "A". If my 6 yo was acting like that she wouldn't get to do anything fun for awhile. I know it's hard to be consistent and to stick to your guns but it will be worth it in the long run. Good luck momma and hang in there.

angie2568
by Bronze Member on Aug. 3, 2012 at 9:49 PM
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 (Long-get ready). Get poster boards. Ok you need to make 10 family rules that are clear and concise. Do not put behave, put what you expect her to do in your home. If you use - be respectful, explain that in () underneath.

Next make a routine (do not break routine if you dont have to) examples: 6am wake up, 6:30a breakfast, 6:45a brush teeth, wash face, get dressed, 7:10a daycare etc - use illustrations or magazine cut outs.

Next have a chore list for her: Put dirty clothes into laundry basket, pick up toys when you are done playing with them, do not have items on your floor that do not belong there, if you take toys/books to family room or living room put them back where they belong.

Use time out for punishment 6 minutes have a designated place (this will take weeks or a few months to "sink in". Do not let her wiggle, get up or talk during the 6 min time out, if she does explain to her the timer will be reset again and u will do that until she sits still. *If you dont have timer use microwave or oven - with a ding she can hear* 

Also there is another way of discipline - let her know you will tell her one time not to do what it is you dont want her doing. The next step you will take her and both of you remove all toys from her room, family room and living room and she will help you place them in clean garbage bag or toy bin - these will be placed in yalls room for one whole day/night. Then in the am after she wakes up she can get them back with good behavior. Only leave books she can not tear up, and learning activity books.

REWARDS

Reward your child with privileges, praise, or activities, rather than with food or toys.

Change rewards frequently. Kids get bored if the reward is always the same.

Make a chart with points or stars awarded for good behavior, so your child has a visual reminder of his or her successes.

Immediate rewards work better than the promise of a future reward, but small rewards leading to a big one can also work.

Always follow through with a reward.

 CONSEQUENCES

Consequences should be spelled out in advance and occur immediately after your child has misbehaved.

Try time-outs and the removal of privileges as consequences for misbehavior.

Remove your child from situations and environments that trigger inappropriate behavior.

When your child misbehaves, ask what he or she could have done instead. Then have your child demonstrate it.

Always follow through with a consequence.

Good Luck!

CoeyG
by on Aug. 3, 2012 at 10:04 PM

You blame your inlaws on her being a spoiled brat, you are the parent if my inlaws were to even try to spoil my daughter she wouldn't get to spend time with them.  I had rules for my daughter and I expected her grandparents to stick to the rules as well.  Her grandfather was the worst and yes indeed I did yell at him when he would try and usurp my authority  My ex MIL was great and I have always appreciated that she would refer to me if there was a question.  

aidenmomplus4
by on Aug. 3, 2012 at 10:10 PM
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Discipline has to be consistent and it may be boring for you and her but she has to learn there are no expectation to the rules , period.

SMTCMMoore
by Melissa on Aug. 3, 2012 at 10:20 PM
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I'd go and make her sit in time out the whole time. My family is Finally learning to stop hassling me about how 'strict I am' cause it does no good. She should see you having fun and see that naughty behavior means she doesn't participate
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CoeyG
by on Aug. 3, 2012 at 10:39 PM
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Grounding doesn't really work, see how miserable you are  The damage has already been done, she is spoiled, now you have to use damage control.  If she has a computer, television, game system unplug them all, if they are in her room take them out of her room and don't put them back until she is old enough to purchase her own and does so or she moves out and gets her own.  Then start setting rules and letting her know exactly what they are and exactly what you expect of her and that there will be consequences for all of her actions good or bad.  If she wants television time, time on the computer or with video games make her earn them by following the rules.  You determine how much time she can have, I limited my daughter to an hour after school and a couple of hours on Saturday.  She didn't have a television or computer until she was almost 18 years old.  I monitored and supervised all of her online time because she had to use my computer and she had to have me to get her on the Internet because I pass worded the connection.  She was rewarded  greatly and didn't earn privileges as well.  I was Assistant Leader of her Girl Scout Troop and while I went along on the trip to an amusement/water park she missed out because of her behavior.  When she talked back to me I'd ignore her for the rest of the day.  My point in that is if you can't give me the respect to follow my rules in my home  and you talk so nasty to me I can't give you the respect to listen to you when you want something from me.  My daughter got bored once, I handed her a dust rag and funiture polish pointed to all the wood furniture in the living room and told her to go to work.   

PsychMom73
by on Aug. 3, 2012 at 10:43 PM

I blame me too, absolutely!! Isn't it hard thoough, to keep your child away from the in laws? I mean, they are her family. . . and mine. It has been a LONG, rough road for me in that department. They used to give me that dismissive wave and almost laugh at me and say "Oh, it's fine!! You're being too hard on her" or "You're being over-protective" and "I raised (insert name here) and he/she turned out fine, don't worry about it".

I, like you, had a huge yelling match with the worst offender. I told her and her hubby that the kids they raised DID NOT turn out fine. I pointed out their selfishness, inability to communicate, impulsivity issues, and inability to express emotion in a healthy manner. I was retorted with "Whoever raised you did a horrible job!!" and my mother had just passed. . .my father passed when I was teenager so I responded with "Get The FUCK out of here, NOW!! You will not see my daughter again!" and I booted two elderly people off of my property. I told them I did not care how old anybody is, disprespect begets disprespect.

It was almost 8 months before I allowed them to see her again, and while away from them her behavior was AMAZING!!! I allowed them to see her once a week, though they wanted much, much more. See, with my family gone the in laws are all the family my daughter has, and me for that matter. After a LONG, hard road we have all come to an understanding and we get along much better but they all strongly believe that kids should be left to do whatever they want, eat whatever they want, etc., and I completely disagree with that. I have 'trained' them to ask me before giving her anything and they do it in front of my daughter, dangling the treat or toy the whole time. . . then I am the 'bad guy' but I have grown used to that and can handle it. 

Can I ask how you got your in laws to comply? Did you have to blow up on them or just have a heart-to-heart?

Quoting CoeyG:

You blame your inlaws on her being a spoiled brat, you are the parent if my inlaws were to even try to spoil my daughter she wouldn't get to spend time with them.  I had rules for my daughter and I expected her grandparents to stick to the rules as well.  Her grandfather was the worst and yes indeed I did yell at him when he would try and usurp my authority  My ex MIL was great and I have always appreciated that she would refer to me if there was a question.  


PsychMom73
by on Aug. 3, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Thank you for the concise & detailed feedback!! I appreciate it, and I will definitely get on this. I just described a chart to my daughter with rewards & consequences and she is EXCITED!! She ran in and cleaned her room!! LOL!! 

Your idea is a great one! I will keep you updated on the progress. Thank you so much hugs

Quoting angie2568:

 (Long-get ready). Get poster boards. Ok you need to make 10 family rules that are clear and concise. Do not put behave, put what you expect her to do in your home. If you use - be respectful, explain that in () underneath.

Next make a routine (do not break routine if you dont have to) examples: 6am wake up, 6:30a breakfast, 6:45a brush teeth, wash face, get dressed, 7:10a daycare etc - use illustrations or magazine cut outs.

Next have a chore list for her: Put dirty clothes into laundry basket, pick up toys when you are done playing with them, do not have items on your floor that do not belong there, if you take toys/books to family room or living room put them back where they belong.

Use time out for punishment 6 minutes have a designated place (this will take weeks or a few months to "sink in". Do not let her wiggle, get up or talk during the 6 min time out, if she does explain to her the timer will be reset again and u will do that until she sits still. *If you dont have timer use microwave or oven - with a ding she can hear* 

Also there is another way of discipline - let her know you will tell her one time not to do what it is you dont want her doing. The next step you will take her and both of you remove all toys from her room, family room and living room and she will help you place them in clean garbage bag or toy bin - these will be placed in yalls room for one whole day/night. Then in the am after she wakes up she can get them back with good behavior. Only leave books she can not tear up, and learning activity books.

REWARDS

Reward your child with privileges, praise, or activities, rather than with food or toys.

Change rewards frequently. Kids get bored if the reward is always the same.

Make a chart with points or stars awarded for good behavior, so your child has a visual reminder of his or her successes.

Immediate rewards work better than the promise of a future reward, but small rewards leading to a big one can also work.

Always follow through with a reward.

 CONSEQUENCES

Consequences should be spelled out in advance and occur immediately after your child has misbehaved.

Try time-outs and the removal of privileges as consequences for misbehavior.

Remove your child from situations and environments that trigger inappropriate behavior.

When your child misbehaves, ask what he or she could have done instead. Then have your child demonstrate it.

Always follow through with a consequence.

Good Luck!


YllaSurtson
by on Aug. 3, 2012 at 10:50 PM

I would choose A.  A life lesson is worth missing a family function.  There will be other birthday parties.

emmy526
by Silver Member on Aug. 4, 2012 at 8:03 AM

Stay home....unless you want to make yourself miserable at a party, and have everyone telling you to let her 'get up' from her punishment.....and enforce to her that the family is staying home due to HER punishment, now the whole family has to suffer because of her.  If you don't nip this in the bud now, it will get much worse, with her making even worse choices, because she knows someone, somewhere, will back her, regardless of what she's done.  

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