My names Leanna. I am new to Cafemom, after hours of googling searching ideas to help me in this situation and coming up with nonsense, I finally found this site. Figured where better to ask, then moms themselves! And I definitely need some other Momma advice! I have a 3 almost 4 year old daughter, she doesnt sleep! She always seems tired even if she rests a full night. And I am trying to stop her from taking any after noon naps. If she naps even for 20 minutes, she doesnt go to sleep for me at a normal bedtime. But after I pick her up from pre-school if she doesn't nap she is miserable for the rest of the day and stil has a hard time getting to sleep. We have a pretty routine schedule for bedtime with baths and books and sometime I even try to rock her. Nothing seems to work. And today she slept 15 minutes in the car on the way home, and didnt get down to sleep until past 10pm, she woke up at 7am this morning. Now tomorrow she will wake up miserable and be even more tired in the afternoon. Its a never ending cycle! Anyone else have this problem or can share advice PLEASE do.