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# Poll-Opinions needed

Posted by on May. 8, 2009 at 1:03 AM
• 19 Replies

## Poll

### Question: Is it stolen food?

Options:

Yes!

No, why would it be?

Other-please explain why you chose "other"

Only group members can vote in this poll.

Okay, so say you're at a dinner party. There's food left over, you're told if you want it you can have it, you get a container & take it home. Are you stealing the food?

by on May. 8, 2009 at 1:03 AM
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by on May. 8, 2009 at 1:04 AM

If you haven't caught on, this is regards to the little boy who 'stole' the muffin.  I was just wondering how people felt if it were worded differently-with all the right information, instead of just the part wanted to be told.

by on May. 8, 2009 at 1:04 AM

Last time I checked you can't steal something someone gave you

by on May. 8, 2009 at 1:05 AM

that was my point

Quoting Kayci9:

Last time I checked you can't steal something someone gave you

by on May. 8, 2009 at 1:05 AM

I have no idea what you are talking about with the muffin, I have been at school/work for the past 12 hours so maybe I missed something

Quoting rileysmommy811:

If you haven't caught on, this is regards to the little boy who 'stole' the muffin.  I was just wondering how people felt if it were worded differently-with all the right information, instead of just the part wanted to be told.

by on May. 8, 2009 at 1:08 AM

It's another post in the group about a home daycare service entitled something like "is this stealing?"  it explains a boy 7-11 stole food, but it doesn't explain in the OP that it was the snack for the day, and it was offered if there were extra they could be eaten.

Quoting Kayci9:

I have no idea what you are talking about with the muffin, I have been at school/work for the past 12 hours so maybe I missed something

Quoting rileysmommy811:

If you haven't caught on, this is regards to the little boy who 'stole' the muffin. I was just wondering how people felt if it were worded differently-with all the right information, instead of just the part wanted to be told.

by on May. 8, 2009 at 1:10 AM
its stealing...i'll tell u why....cuz u took the container.

lol. just busting ur balls. i know what u meant. but seriously, if someone stole my tupperware id be pist.

by on May. 8, 2009 at 1:13 AM

haha, I thought I would get someone who would say that (but actually meant it)  Iknew I should have worded it better! lol

I'd be pissed too, I don't blame you!

its stealing...i'll tell u why....cuz u took the container.

lol. just busting ur balls. i know what u meant. but seriously, if someone stole my tupperware id be pist.

by on May. 8, 2009 at 1:21 AM

Not to argue about what she said, but she just said she'd 'let' them have seconds, not necessarily that they have to ask.

But on the subject of rules, Of course not!  Why not let my 2 year old roam the streets? what could possibly happen!

Really though, I know there are stranger things, but yes, she has rules-and however I would never allow her to have 2 snacks, especially 2 muffins.  But if I HAD for some reason told her she could have another if she wanted, and she took it to grandmas or whatever, she's not stealing my muffin (even though she is my own and it's not really stealing-I'm sure you get my point)

Quoting dusky_rose:

I read a post about that and I don't think that your version is comparable to that other post. She said that the child could have the muffin if the child asked for it, but the child did not ask for it... instead took it and hid it. Daycare needs rules and the children should follow them. I'm not saying that stealing is the right word for it, but that child is not above the rules or else why would any of the other children follow the rules, if that child gets away with breaking them? Maybe its not a big deal to you, but someone that runs a daycare knows that there needs to be rules in place or else you just have a bunch of children running around doing whatever the heck they please! As a parent I would like to think that you have rules for your own children, but I could be wrong... stranger things have happened.

by on May. 8, 2009 at 2:32 AM

I understand, and like I said, I wouldn't even let my daughter have a second muffin, even if we had 300.  I also understand she's my daughter, I provide for her, but being that she is their daycare PROVIDER, she does the same for these children.

I don't know why she would offer children a second muffin ig there weren't enough, maybe there was, maybe there wasn't, maybe they don't have to ask, maybe they do.  I don't know, noone knows but her and her providees.  However, I just think she should have mentioned these things in her post, because when I first read it, I was under the impression he went through her stuff and actually stole some of her food

I know if I were a child and I was told we could have extras, I probably would have done the same thing, not even thinking about it.  I'm the kind of person who takes home the extras if offered, because even though I may not have the stomach room for it now, I may and probably will want it later, especially if it's a muffin.  It's not common to have had or to have muffins in our home.

Quoting dusky_rose:

I think that mom had a rule that if you want seconds that you need to ask for it, not just take one later when snack time is over and hide it someplace for later. Its a courtesy thing, if the child knows that rule then he/she should ask before taking the extra muffin since none of the other children were getting any extra muffins. I don't think that you can compare your daughter taking a muffin to grandmas with a child at a daycare that took a muffin without asking. She is your daughter, you feed and provide for her... but at a daycare they can limit the amount of snack provided as necessary. I'm surprised that the mom would even let the child have a second muffin in the first place if there wasn't enough for all the other children to have seconds. That seems unfair to the other children that may want seconds after seeing the the first child got some.

Quoting rileysmommy811:

Not to argue about what she said, but she just said she'd 'let' them have seconds, not necessarily that they have to ask.

But on the subject of rules, Of course not! Why not let my 2 year old roam the streets? what could possibly happen!

Really though, I know there are stranger things, but yes, she has rules-and however I would never allow her to have 2 snacks, especially 2 muffins. But if I HAD for some reason told her she could have another if she wanted, and she took it to grandmas or whatever, she's not stealing my muffin (even though she is my own and it's not really stealing-I'm sure you get my point)

Quoting dusky_rose:

I read a post about that and I don't think that your version is comparable to that other post. She said that the child could have the muffin if the child asked for it, but the child did not ask for it... instead took it and hid it. Daycare needs rules and the children should follow them. I'm not saying that stealing is the right word for it, but that child is not above the rules or else why would any of the other children follow the rules, if that child gets away with breaking them? Maybe its not a big deal to you, but someone that runs a daycare knows that there needs to be rules in place or else you just have a bunch of children running around doing whatever the heck they please! As a parent I would like to think that you have rules for your own children, but I could be wrong... stranger things have happened.

by on May. 8, 2009 at 2:58 AM

I'm not comparing my home to her daycare.  I said I would never allow my daughter to have a second muffin in the first place (as in, a second snack isn't a good idea anyway-that's why it's a snack and not a meal)

I also said, if I were in daycare, which I was when I was younger, if I were offered seconds, I probably would have taken it without even thinking "I'm stealing this muffin"  Because I was OFFERED it.

I'm not making her look stupid, it was just wrong of her to try to make everyone thing this little boy has problems and is some sort of a thief without the whole story.

So he took it when they were outside, maybe he felt awkward taking it while everyone else was there.  Again, something I would have done as a child.  and infact, I'm sure somewhere in my 12 years of childhood I did the same.

Like at a party when there's left over pizza, when noone was paying attention, I'd go back and eat another slice.-I understand I ate it and didn't store it, but still yet not much difference.

It's obvious you're quick to call this little boy out too, so there's no need flaring my carpal tunnel over you.

Thank you for your opinions and input, they were gravely appreciated.

Quoting dusky_rose:

I don't think you can compare a daycare to a home. At daycare you don't just let a child help themselves to a snack whenever they please. They have a very structured time while there. There is a scheduled time for snack and for story time or whatever else they do there. In the post I read (and I read all the responses as well, by the mom and other moms), the children were outside playing when this child decides to go help himself to a muffin, and hides it... at least thats the way I understood it. What I don't understand is why you chose to make this post about a mom that was asking for help about a problem that she was having, but since you don't agree with her you are trying to make her look stupid or something, whats up with that? Wasn't it enough that you and other moms didn't agree with her in that other post?

Quoting rileysmommy811:

I understand, and like I said, I wouldn't even let my daughter have a second muffin, even if we had 300. I also understand she's my daughter, I provide for her, but being that she is their daycare PROVIDER, she does the same for these children.

I don't know why she would offer children a second muffin ig there weren't enough, maybe there was, maybe there wasn't, maybe they don't have to ask, maybe they do. I don't know, noone knows but her and her providees. However, I just think she should have mentioned these things in her post, because when I first read it, I was under the impression he went through her stuff and actually stole some of her food

I know if I were a child and I was told we could have extras, I probably would have done the same thing, not even thinking about it. I'm the kind of person who takes home the extras if offered, because even though I may not have the stomach room for it now, I may and probably will want it later, especially if it's a muffin. It's not common to have had or to have muffins in our home.

Quoting dusky_rose:

I think that mom had a rule that if you want seconds that you need to ask for it, not just take one later when snack time is over and hide it someplace for later. Its a courtesy thing, if the child knows that rule then he/she should ask before taking the extra muffin since none of the other children were getting any extra muffins. I don't think that you can compare your daughter taking a muffin to grandmas with a child at a daycare that took a muffin without asking. She is your daughter, you feed and provide for her... but at a daycare they can limit the amount of snack provided as necessary. I'm surprised that the mom would even let the child have a second muffin in the first place if there wasn't enough for all the other children to have seconds. That seems unfair to the other children that may want seconds after seeing the the first child got some.

Quoting rileysmommy811:

Not to argue about what she said, but she just said she'd 'let' them have seconds, not necessarily that they have to ask.

But on the subject of rules, Of course not! Why not let my 2 year old roam the streets? what could possibly happen!

Really though, I know there are stranger things, but yes, she has rules-and however I would never allow her to have 2 snacks, especially 2 muffins. But if I HAD for some reason told her she could have another if she wanted, and she took it to grandmas or whatever, she's not stealing my muffin (even though she is my own and it's not really stealing-I'm sure you get my point)

Quoting dusky_rose:

I read a post about that and I don't think that your version is comparable to that other post. She said that the child could have the muffin if the child asked for it, but the child did not ask for it... instead took it and hid it. Daycare needs rules and the children should follow them. I'm not saying that stealing is the right word for it, but that child is not above the rules or else why would any of the other children follow the rules, if that child gets away with breaking them? Maybe its not a big deal to you, but someone that runs a daycare knows that there needs to be rules in place or else you just have a bunch of children running around doing whatever the heck they please! As a parent I would like to think that you have rules for your own children, but I could be wrong... stranger things have happened.