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Dangers of crying it out

Posted by on Apr. 11, 2012 at 10:13 PM
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Don't do it.

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201112/dangers-crying-it-out

http://drbenkim.com/articles-attachment-parenting.html

http://mo.imperfectparent.com/topics/2011/12/16/dangers-of-crying-it-out-lifetime-of-harm/


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Randi02
by Platinum Member on Apr. 18, 2012 at 3:42 PM

LOL

Babies can learn to sleep on their own without being left to cry themselves to sleep.

Quoting taragray24:

i think crying it out is ok...if not there gonna not gonna learn and parents will become exasausted...but yes it depends on there age and the amount of time...


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tyandtrae
by on Apr. 18, 2012 at 3:45 PM
I've let my son cry it, n I plan on doing with my new baby (3 months). But for me it all depends on the age and the situation. But i'm all for cio, with certain limitations (no more than 5-10 mins).
Randi02
by Platinum Member on Apr. 18, 2012 at 3:46 PM

She lays there and cries for 10-15 minutes. Whether you're standing there rubbing her forehead or not doesn't really matter.

Your baby has a very rapidly developing brain, and being left to cry like that releases cortisol and stress hormones - which can have an impact on brain development. I would suggest doing some more research.

Quoting Mommy2be-Jan11:

Like I said everyone is entitled to their own opinions. In your opinion that's what you believe. However with me my daughter calms down because she sees my face right before she falls asleep. I'm in the room with her so it's actually not neglect. (I rub her forehead and sooth her.) your crazy if you think that is neglect.

Quoting Randi02:

This is neglect. Even CIO advocates say you should never let a baby under 6 -9 months CIO.



Quoting Mommy2be-Jan11:

First let me say that everyone is entitled to their own opinions on this. Okay now my daughter is 15 weeks old today and for about 2 weeks now I have been letting her cry herself to sleep.(keep in mind I stay in her room with her and stroke her forehead and tell her everything is alright.) within 10-15 minutes she ends up falling asleep. I feel like my method isnt harming my daughter at all.


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Randi02
by Platinum Member on Apr. 18, 2012 at 3:50 PM
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You're not a bad mother for not breastfeeding, where did I say that?

A lot of mothers never have that basic maternal instinct, which is to put their newborn baby to their breast and let them nurse. If you don't have that, you're lacking that maternal instinct.

If you leave your baby to cry to 'teach' them how to sleep, you're lacking the instinct to comfort them and answer their cries. If you feel badly about leaving them to cry, but you do it anyway - you're ignoring that instinct.

It's not about my beliefs, it's how our babies are born to be parented - just like all other mammals out there.

Quoting blapier:

I'd be friends with her. Oh and I'm a bad mom because I didn't breastfeed? Just because someone doesn't have the same beliefs as you doesn't mean you're a better parent. We all have different ways of parenting...doesn't mean we're "lacking" any maternal instinct. It's just your opinion versus mine.

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Mommy2be-Jan11
by on Apr. 18, 2012 at 3:53 PM
Lol I like how you never took the time to ask me if her pedatrition was okay with it. Because he was the one that told me along with Others that as long as I'm in the room with her, showing her I'm there and soothing her and she isn't crying for long periods of time then it's okay. She Crys on and off. It's not like she sits there and Crys that whole time. I don't need to look online to some garbage when her doctor is a phone call away. Isn't that what they are for anyway?
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blapier
by Bronze Member on Apr. 18, 2012 at 4:05 PM

How you worded it made it seem like that. I think that if you do the CIO method properly it works. My daughter was in a BAD habit of getting rocked to sleep so when she was 8 months I decided to end that. I put her in her crib one night and I kissed her goodnight and I sat next to her crib...she didn't even cry...she went right to sleep. I can't say that she "crys it out" because she doesn't. But when she does occassionally cry it's no more than 5 mins before I go in and comfort her and lay her back down. And the whole process starts again. I do think that starting the CIO method before 6 months is kinda wrong (IMO). Sorry for the confusion about the breastfeeding part.

Quoting Randi02:

You're not a bad mother for not breastfeeding, where did I say that?

A lot of mothers never have that basic maternal instinct, which is to put their newborn baby to their breast and let them nurse. If you don't have that, you're lacking that maternal instinct.

If you leave your baby to cry to 'teach' them how to sleep, you're lacking the instinct to comfort them and answer their cries. If you feel badly about leaving them to cry, but you do it anyway - you're ignoring that instinct.

It's not about my beliefs, it's how our babies are born to be parented - just like all other mammals out there.

Quoting blapier:

I'd be friends with her. Oh and I'm a bad mom because I didn't breastfeed? Just because someone doesn't have the same beliefs as you doesn't mean you're a better parent. We all have different ways of parenting...doesn't mean we're "lacking" any maternal instinct. It's just your opinion versus mine.


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Randi02
by Platinum Member on Apr. 18, 2012 at 4:09 PM

If your child had a rash, or a broken bone - sure!

When it comes to diet/nutrition, car seat safety, breastfeeding and sleep - they don't have any formal education on those subjects. It's all a matter of personal opinion, and not necessarily accurate. Especially if it's an older doctor - since CIO was 'normal' from the 50's to the 80's, and then they started doing more research and seeing the effects it was having.

Quoting Mommy2be-Jan11:

Lol I like how you never took the time to ask me if her pedatrition was okay with it. Because he was the one that told me along with Others that as long as I'm in the room with her, showing her I'm there and soothing her and she isn't crying for long periods of time then it's okay. She Crys on and off. It's not like she sits there and Crys that whole time. I don't need to look online to some garbage when her doctor is a phone call away. Isn't that what they are for anyway?


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Randi02
by Platinum Member on Apr. 18, 2012 at 4:13 PM

If she went right to sleep, that's not CIO :)

I personally don't think it's fair to try and 'break' a habit that you (general you) created. It's not their fault.
I nursed all of my babies to sleep, and we bedshared. When they hit 6 months, I started transitioning them to their own beds - with no CIO. If they started to cry, I picked them up and we tried again the next night. Once I was able to lay them down to sleep and have them stay there, I worked on cutting back their nursing sessions so I was putting them to bed drowsy, and eventually wide awake. When they were wide awake, I didn't have to nurse them immediately before bed anymore and they would go to sleep and stay asleep until morning.

A lot of people believe that you need to let your baby cry to instill 'healthy' sleep habits, but it's just not true.

As for the age, it should ideally be done after about 9 months - once they've established object permanence.

Quoting blapier:

How you worded it made it seem like that. I think that if you do the CIO method properly it works. My daughter was in a BAD habit of getting rocked to sleep so when she was 8 months I decided to end that. I put her in her crib one night and I kissed her goodnight and I sat next to her crib...she didn't even cry...she went right to sleep. I can't say that she "crys it out" because she doesn't. But when she does occassionally cry it's no more than 5 mins before I go in and comfort her and lay her back down. And the whole process starts again. I do think that starting the CIO method before 6 months is kinda wrong (IMO). Sorry for the confusion about the breastfeeding part.

Quoting Randi02:

You're not a bad mother for not breastfeeding, where did I say that?

A lot of mothers never have that basic maternal instinct, which is to put their newborn baby to their breast and let them nurse. If you don't have that, you're lacking that maternal instinct.

If you leave your baby to cry to 'teach' them how to sleep, you're lacking the instinct to comfort them and answer their cries. If you feel badly about leaving them to cry, but you do it anyway - you're ignoring that instinct.

It's not about my beliefs, it's how our babies are born to be parented - just like all other mammals out there.

Quoting blapier:

I'd be friends with her. Oh and I'm a bad mom because I didn't breastfeed? Just because someone doesn't have the same beliefs as you doesn't mean you're a better parent. We all have different ways of parenting...doesn't mean we're "lacking" any maternal instinct. It's just your opinion versus mine.



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1985Supersport
by on Apr. 18, 2012 at 4:18 PM


Quoting eztwins:

Quoting 1985Supersport:

Would any of you leave a collicy baby to cio? That's the problem with kids today. They lack the bonding that parents SHOULD be giving their baby's.  Half the young girls who have baby's in this Complex, leave their apts., go have coffee assuming the child is asleep......what's wrong with that? I'm not saying I do any of it but, whatever happened to TAKING THE BABY WITH YOU an not in a dam carseat either.  I believe that kids that are left alone to cio, farther down the line will show some issues!!!



You do realize there is a difference between CIO sleep training at 5-10 minute intervals and leaving a child unattended to go have coffee. That is neglect and illegal to leave a child home alone while you are done the block

I know it's neglect an illegal but, living in the Complex I HAVE SEEN young mothers walk out the door W/O the child.  It like the government, report it an nothing gets done for 1-2 wks. after. An by then, someone else has ratted you out to the neglectful mom. There's two that live in close quarters to me an they do it all the time!  I HAVE REPORTED it! An nothing gets done about it unless there's been injury to the child.  Kind of like the police force here in town.......no injury, not a problem.  There are good people out there who DO report such things an get told just what I've said. CPS will investigate 3 days later but, by then , it's over an done an chances are they won't catch them. So call me old-fashion, I enjoyed taking my kids with me wherever I went!!!  It's a bonding thing!!!!

Mommy2be-Jan11
by on Apr. 18, 2012 at 4:45 PM
Maybe with the pedatrition thing I do agree with now that I think about it. However I still stand my ground when I say soothing my daughter isn't neglect. If it wasn't working and I let her cry continuously then yes it would be neglect. I'm not the type that likes to argue it just irked me when you said the "neglect" comment because I care a lot for my daughter and even though I let her cry for a few minutes on and off I have never left her in her room by herself while crying. I'm a huge worry wort at that. After she has fallen asleep, I check on my daughter at least 2 times a night just to make sure she is okay. It's something that has become a routine for me.

Quoting Randi02:

If your child had a rash, or a broken bone - sure!

When it comes to diet/nutrition, car seat safety, breastfeeding and sleep - they don't have any formal education on those subjects. It's all a matter of personal opinion, and not necessarily accurate. Especially if it's an older doctor - since CIO was 'normal' from the 50's to the 80's, and then they started doing more research and seeing the effects it was having.

Quoting Mommy2be-Jan11:

Lol I like how you never took the time to ask me if her pedatrition was okay with it. Because he was the one that told me along with Others that as long as I'm in the room with her, showing her I'm there and soothing her and she isn't crying for long periods of time then it's okay. She Crys on and off. It's not like she sits there and Crys that whole time. I don't need to look online to some garbage when her doctor is a phone call away. Isn't that what they are for anyway?


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