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Flu shots pose no extra risk of pregnancy loss: study

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WASHINGTON — Pregnant women in Norway who got vaccinated against the swine flu virus that caused the 2009-2010 pandemic showed no increased risk of pregnancy loss, contrary to popular belief, says a study released Thursday.

Pregnant women who came down with the flu did however have increased risk of miscarriage and still birth, said the study carried out in Norway.

Scientists at the US National Institutes of Health and the Norwegian Institute of Public Health published their findings online in the New England Journal of Medicine.

During the H1N1 flu pandemic, Norway urged pregnant women to get vaccinated. But some expectant mothers shied from this after news reports of pregnancy losses after flu shots.

The researchers said their study suggested that influenza infection may increase the risk of fetal loss.

They reached their conclusion by analyzing Norway's well-kept archives of registries and medical records.

The risk of pregnancy loss can be multiplied by a factor of two if a pregnant woman catches the flu, while vaccination reduced this risk.

"Most important is that vaccinations protect pregnant women against influenza illness, which could be harmful for both the mother and the baby," said Allen Wilcox of the NIH, co-author of the study.



What do you think? Are you more likely to get the flu shot now?

by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 9:44 AM
Replies (11-20):
avaana06
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 2:59 PM

I dont understand whymy doctors office who have the flu shot as one of the things offered to me at my pregnancy appointment if there was risk of miscarriage from it. I just don't know about this...

TaralynnStewart
by Bronze Member on Jan. 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM
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I've never gotten the flu or the flu shot. Pregnant or not pregnant I will not nor will my kids get the flu shot
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JadeTigr7
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 3:06 PM


So are you saying they lie on the CDC website, with all that information from doctors and medical scientists???

Quoting livingrlovesong:

 What college did you graduate from? Where did you get your doctorate? What is your PHD in?

I guess your a believer in "Everything you find on the internet is true" Good luck to you, Ma'am

Quoting louzannalady:

The links were no opinion, they are factual: the ingredients from the CDC itself and the inserts from the pharmacitical companies themselves. If you are not interested in such facts, that is fine. I am sorry I infringed by offering such data to you. I wish you and your little ones all the very best. *tips hat* Have a great day, Ma'am! : ) 

Quoting livingrlovesong:

 Good for you. But im not interested in your links or opinions. My babies were all perfectly healthy. Flu shot and all. Im 11 weeks pregnant now, and I will be getting my flu shot next Tuesday. AND im 1000% positive that this child will be fine to. If I want your opinion, I will ask. But thank you

Quoting louzannalady:

I trust the highly educated people (who have their doctorates) who don't want any legal issues and more familiar with their product, who put information to report adverse reations to VAERS in each package of their product, because they don't KNOW that this is safe for babies! And the CDC site, that lists the ingredients in the shots, so that I can make an informed decision. 

Here is a list, from the CDC of all the vax's ingredients.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

Here is the first ingredient in the first flu vax listed: beta-Propiolactone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Propiolactone

Here is the second ingredient in the same vax: thiomersal. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal

Here are current inserts to the different flu vaccines, for your consideration. Just hit Ctrl + F and type "pregnant" and it will take you to the segment on pregnancy. Most have it set up for people to report if there are adverse reactions in pregnancy, because they just don't know for sure if there are any. 

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf

http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123694.pdf

https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651%E2%84%91_type=product_pdf


Quoting livingrlovesong:

 I've gotten the flu shot with all of my kids. (althought I did have the swine flu with my oldest son was born) I will get it with this one. I will trust my DOCTOR over internet research anyday


 


 



soaringflutes
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 3:22 PM
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I got my flu shot, as I trust my doctor.  From college, I've learned how very easy it is to post anything on the internet and make it look real, so I take everything I read online, and offline with a grain of salt.  Articles that could be posted anywhere online would never be accepted as factual for college research.  I'm not saying that the information posted here is incorrect, or that the links others have added are not true either, I just believe that one has to be very careful to trust completely what is written online.

Emilytrademark
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM
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Not at all more likely to get the flu shot.

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Beautifulmom513
by Bronze Member on Jan. 18, 2013 at 3:25 PM

no I have never gotten the flu shot with any of my pregnancies and will not for any future pregnancies either. I just don't find it necessary.

Emilytrademark
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM

 Wow - rude and misinformed.

Quoting livingrlovesong:

 Good for you. But im not interested in your links or opinions. My babies were all perfectly healthy. Flu shot and all. Im 11 weeks pregnant now, and I will be getting my flu shot next Tuesday. AND im 1000% positive that this child will be fine to. If I want your opinion, I will ask. But thank you

Quoting louzannalady:

I trust the highly educated people (who have their doctorates) who don't want any legal issues and more familiar with their product, who put information to report adverse reations to VAERS in each package of their product, because they don't KNOW that this is safe for babies! And the CDC site, that lists the ingredients in the shots, so that I can make an informed decision. 

Here is a list, from the CDC of all the vax's ingredients.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

Here is the first ingredient in the first flu vax listed: beta-Propiolactone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Propiolactone

Here is the second ingredient in the same vax: thiomersal. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal

Here are current inserts to the different flu vaccines, for your consideration. Just hit Ctrl + F and type "pregnant" and it will take you to the segment on pregnancy. Most have it set up for people to report if there are adverse reactions in pregnancy, because they just don't know for sure if there are any. 

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf

http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123694.pdf

https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651%E2%84%91_type=product_pdf


Quoting livingrlovesong:

 I've gotten the flu shot with all of my kids. (althought I did have the swine flu with my oldest son was born) I will get it with this one. I will trust my DOCTOR over internet research anyday


 

 

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rachelrothchild
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 3:29 PM
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US National Institutes of Health and the Norwegian Institute of Public Health?

I only trust studies from third parties, not government agencies.  Sorry.  Hell no.

rachelrothchild
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 3:42 PM
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Since when do you need a doctorate to possess critical thinking skills, look at research and interpret results, and present facts to another person?

You are using multiple logical fallacies in your arguments.  I suppose that's a really big word for a simpleton (me) without a doctorate though. Do you believe everything your doctor tells you?  That makes you just as "uninformed" as these women who don't work in hospitals.  What are you a nurse, an orderly, a cook, a housekeeper?  I bet I have more education than you do, but I digress from the point.

You do know that doctors prescribe medications people are allergic to all the time (even when the person tells the doctor they are allergic), right?  You do also know that doctors prescribe medications (usually anti-depressants and pain medication) to populations (like pregnant women) they are not intended for nor proven safe for, right?  You do know that death is a side effect of some medications, correct?  Why are vaccines any different?

You are rude, misinformed, and misguided.  You put too much trust in people with degrees and letters behind their names.  But keep insisting that we are the stupid ones.

Quoting livingrlovesong:

 What college did you graduate from? Where did you get your doctorate? What is your PHD in?

I guess your a believer in "Everything you find on the internet is true" Good luck to you, Ma'am

Quoting louzannalady:

The links were no opinion, they are factual: the ingredients from the CDC itself and the inserts from the pharmacitical companies themselves. If you are not interested in such facts, that is fine. I am sorry I infringed by offering such data to you. I wish you and your little ones all the very best. *tips hat* Have a great day, Ma'am! : ) 

Quoting livingrlovesong:

 Good for you. But im not interested in your links or opinions. My babies were all perfectly healthy. Flu shot and all. Im 11 weeks pregnant now, and I will be getting my flu shot next Tuesday. AND im 1000% positive that this child will be fine to. If I want your opinion, I will ask. But thank you

Quoting louzannalady:

I trust the highly educated people (who have their doctorates) who don't want any legal issues and more familiar with their product, who put information to report adverse reations to VAERS in each package of their product, because they don't KNOW that this is safe for babies! And the CDC site, that lists the ingredients in the shots, so that I can make an informed decision. 

Here is a list, from the CDC of all the vax's ingredients.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

Here is the first ingredient in the first flu vax listed: beta-Propiolactone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Propiolactone

Here is the second ingredient in the same vax: thiomersal. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal

Here are current inserts to the different flu vaccines, for your consideration. Just hit Ctrl + F and type "pregnant" and it will take you to the segment on pregnancy. Most have it set up for people to report if there are adverse reactions in pregnancy, because they just don't know for sure if there are any. 

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf

http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123694.pdf

https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651%E2%84%91_type=product_pdf


Quoting livingrlovesong:

 I've gotten the flu shot with all of my kids. (althought I did have the swine flu with my oldest son was born) I will get it with this one. I will trust my DOCTOR over internet research anyday


 


 


livingrlovesong
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM
The only thing rude is to have others shove their opinion on the flu shot down my throat. I thanked her for her opinion, but it wasn't necessary. I didn't ask. I have my own. Thank you

Quoting Emilytrademark:

 Wow - rude and misinformed.


Quoting livingrlovesong:


 Good for you. But im not interested in your links or opinions. My babies were all perfectly healthy. Flu shot and all. Im 11 weeks pregnant now, and I will be getting my flu shot next Tuesday. AND im 1000% positive that this child will be fine to. If I want your opinion, I will ask. But thank you


Quoting louzannalady:


I trust the highly educated people (who have their doctorates) who don't want any legal issues and more familiar with their product, who put information to report adverse reations to VAERS in each package of their product, because they don't KNOW that this is safe for babies! And the CDC site, that lists the ingredients in the shots, so that I can make an informed decision. 



Here is a list, from the CDC of all the vax's ingredients.


http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf


Here is the first ingredient in the first flu vax listed: beta-Propiolactone.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Propiolactone


Here is the second ingredient in the same vax: thiomersal. 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal


Here are current inserts to the different flu vaccines, for your consideration. Just hit Ctrl + F and type "pregnant" and it will take you to the segment on pregnancy. Most have it set up for people to report if there are adverse reactions in pregnancy, because they just don't know for sure if there are any. 


http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf


http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf


http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf


http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123694.pdf


https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651%E2%84%91_type=product_pdf




Quoting livingrlovesong:


 I've gotten the flu shot with all of my kids. (althought I did have the swine flu with my oldest son was born) I will get it with this one. I will trust my DOCTOR over internet research anyday




 


 

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