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Circumcision - I'm against it.

Posted by on Apr. 24, 2014 at 8:34 AM
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One of the issues to deal with during pregnancy is whether to circumcise.  Here is some info I learned on why I dont think it is a good idea. I will try to be as balanced as possible even though you should know I am against it.

Most medical organisations are against the procedure.  Here are their statements on circumcision:

http://www.cirp.org/library/statements/

Immediate negative effects of circumcision + complications

You will be able to see the immediate effect and a picture of what the penis looks like after circumcision here (NSFW):

http://www.drmomma.org/2009/09/functions-of-foreskin-purposes-of.html

Note that complications and injuries to the penis are not uncommmon from circumcision.  See this page for more information:

http://www.thewholenetwork.org/consequences-of-circumcision.html 

Gallery of pictures (NSFW):

http://www.circumcisionharm.org/gallery1.htm

Here is a list of complications from a neutral source - Stamford medical school:

http://newborns.stanford.edu/CircComplications.html

WIll my baby be in danger if he is intact or not circumcised?  Will I have to worry?  Does it require more care? 

These are probably the most important questions.  A lot of parents have babies circumcised for peace of mind.

Losing the protective foreskin may cause meatal stenosis - which is inflammation and ulceration of the meatus (the pee-hole).  This is due to exposure of the pee-hole to ammonia from urine in the diaper.  This can cause the peehole to become scarred and it may cause narrowing resulting in difficulty urinating.

There is a lot more after care for a circumcised baby.  With an intact baby there is nothing to do.  No care required.  You do not have to clean - the foreskin cannot be pulled back at this point.  

With a circumcised boy, there is an open wound as can be seen from the second link above. So it is more likely to be infected.  You will also have to prevent skin bridges from forming:

http://www.circumstitions.com/Restric/Botched1sb.html  (NSFW)

This is where the loose skin re-attaches to the shaft of the penis and forms a permanent attachment. There can be too mcuh or too little skin removed.

So it is quite likely you will have to return to the doctors.

Infections are not common in boys.  As long as you leave the intact penis alone and don't try to pull the foreskin back, there is not likely to be a problem.  If there is an infection (unlikely) you can give him antibiotics and that will clear it up.  Infections are not serious or life threatening so there is no need to have an operation.  Boys in Europe, Canada and Australia do not get circumcised - because there is no danger in being left intact.

Circumcision may make it harder to bond with your child.  With an open wound he will be in pain and distress for some days. Circumcision is very stressful for a child.  The physical pain may go but he will remember it.  It will be better for you if he doesnt have this painful experience at the start of his life.

At the moment around 60% of boys are circumcised in the USA, 40% are not. So it is not 'the norm' anymore, and it is likely that circumcised boys will be the minority in a few years.

http://mgmbill.org/statistics.htm

Regarding sexually transmitted infections (STI's) - there is little difference - and no convincing evidence it prevents STI's.  Condoms and not sleeping with loose women are what prevent STI's.

According to the National health Service (NHS) Website in the UK:

"Routine circumcision may offer a number of potential benefits, such as reducing the risk of some types of bacterial or viral infections. However, most healthcare professionals now agree that the risks associated with routine circumcision, such as infection and excessive bleeding, outweigh any potential benefits."

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Circumcision/Pages/Introduction.aspx 

The effect of circumcision on sexual function.

The foreskin contains many special nerves not found in normal skin.  

See this article for the functions of the foreskin: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/09/functions-of-foreskin-purposes-of.html

Circumcision makes it harder to masturbate.  There is no skin to glide up and down as in a normal penis:

http://www.circumstitions.com/completeman/ (NSFW)

Consequently circumcised guys may have to use artificial lubrication to masturbate which is inconveniant.

It is likely that the skin will be become chafed and sore when masturbating due to the friction.  They may also cause damage to the 3 spongy chambers of the penis due to the pressure of the hand.

There is also keratinization.  This is hardening of the skin. Without the foreskin protecting the glans, it brushes on underwear and comes under pressure during masturbation.  This causes a loss in sensitvity:

http://www.noharmm.org/IDcirc.htm (NSFW)

As the drmomma article outlines the mobility of the foreskin helps make sex a better experience for the woman.  The foreskin traps moisture. Also the man is less rough with his thrusts; the circumcised man has lossed sensitivity and needs more friction.  

Without the nerves of the foreskin circumcised men also finder it harder to control ejaculation.

Some videoshttp://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/video/video.html

History of circumcisionhttp://www.historyofcircumcision.net/

How to care for an intact child: http://www.drmomma.org/2010/01/basic-care-of-intact-child.html

by on Apr. 24, 2014 at 8:34 AM
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VicVinegar
by Keila on Apr. 24, 2014 at 8:45 AM
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The thing is most women have already done their research and have decided what's best for them, so I never understood what these types of post are supposed to accomplish. Personally I have two boys, one intact and one circumcised. My intact boy is a million times easier to deal with. My circumcised boy on the other hand has been a pain in the butt! He got the plasti-bell procedure and his skin kept reattaching at the head so at literally every doctor appointment the doc had to pull the skin back which hurt him, I hated it!

However, I worry more about my intact boy feeling different as he is the only male in our family intact. He's 8 almost 9 and I just hope when he starts high school and changes in front of other boys he won't be the only one. I've told him that if he ever has a strong desire to get snipped he can, but he actually likes being intact and thinks his brothers penis looks weird!

Christine_T
by Member on Apr. 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM

Maybe most women do research but some dont even think about it.  A lot of women dont think it is a big deal. There are forums such as: http://foreskin-restoration.net/forum/index.php where men are so upset at what was taken without their consent that they try to put weights on their penis to restore the foreskin. Although it must be said that the skin that is pulled down is not the unique skin of the foreskin which contains many special nerves not found in normal skin.

One of the reasons people do it is because they assume it will be easier to care for if circumcised but as your experience shows that isnt the case.

mommyofblueyes
by Member on Apr. 24, 2014 at 8:54 AM
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Thanks for the info!  I used to think it wasn't a big deal, I just did what I thought was supposed to be done.  That was 6 years ago, and ended with my son having a botched circumcision, which we have decided to leave alone.  I am pregnant with another boy, due in July, and after my research, I have decided to leave him intact.  

LuvMyBoys09
by Silver Member on Apr. 24, 2014 at 8:56 AM
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Meh This is a repeated and worn out debate/argument in this group and others as well.
No matter what research and evidence is presented, each mother is going to interpret that information how she sees fit and will make the decision that she feels is best, based off of that.

Not everyone is going to agree with one side or the other and it doesn't matter....I don't concern myself with a penis that isn't attached to a child that doesn't belong to me.
Chaos1229
by Tasha on Apr. 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM
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I've researched it and still chose to circ . You do what is best for your family and I will do what's best for mine .
smorgan865
by Bronze Member on Apr. 24, 2014 at 9:51 AM

This exactly.

Quoting Chaos1229: I've researched it and still chose to circ . You do what is best for your family and I will do what's best for mine .


JessiFaye
by Silver Member on Apr. 24, 2014 at 10:07 AM
Amen.

Quoting Chaos1229: I've researched it and still chose to circ . You do what is best for your family and I will do what's best for mine .
hbritton
by Member on Apr. 24, 2014 at 10:13 AM
Quoting VicVinegar:

The thing is most women have already done their research and have decided what's best for them, so I never understood what these types of post are supposed to accomplish. Personally I have two boys, one intact and one circumcised. My intact boy is a million times easier to deal with. My circumcised boy on the other hand has been a pain in the butt! He got the plasti-bell procedure and his skin kept reattaching at the head so at literally every doctor appointment the doc had to pull the skin back which hurt him, I hated it!

However, I worry more about my intact boy feeling different as he is the only male in our family intact. He's 8 almost 9 and I just hope when he starts high school and changes in front of other boys he won't be the only one. I've told him that if he ever has a strong desire to get snipped he can, but he actually likes being intact and thinks his brothers penis looks weird!




Most women just do it. Very few actually have any idea about the function of the foreskin.

Shelbypb
by Bronze Member on Apr. 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM
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Eh I'm good I did it to my first and I will again if this one is a boy. I don't care what other people do with their kids but this is what I do with mine
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by Brittany on Apr. 24, 2014 at 10:58 AM
Both my boys are circ'd and I never had any issues. This baby will be circ'd as well, that's just our family's choice...
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