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Yelled at by my pediatrician
- Jun 13, 2008 at 10:29 PM
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So, once I found out that I didn't have to vaccinate my daughter anymore, I didn't. I did my research and came to the conclusion that, not only were most (if not all) were unnecessary, the risk of actually getting those diseases was FAR less than the risk of getting seriously ill from them. Anyway, at the 12 month check-up I informed the pediatrician, who was filling in for my pediatrician, that I wasn't going to vaccinate anymore. She said a few things, but then it was over with.
Today I went for her 15 month check up, and everything went wrong. So the nurse came in and weighed and measured her, she was all good of course. Then she goes over some things. She said something about drinking 24 oz. of whole milk a day, I still breastfeed but I didn't say anything. I just smiled and nodded.
Then she says, "Well, as you know tantrums are all part of the territory". I just kind of laughed because my daughter hasn't thrown a "tantrum" yet. She goes on to say, "Now don't be giving in to her when she throws a tantrum. If you do then she'll realize that she can get away with anything she wants." I stopped smiling at that point. It was hard for me not to say, "Please don't give me parenting advice, woman I don't know." But I managed.
In walks my pediatrician. I always thought she was nice. She was kind of weird and seemed like she was on something. Anyway, she asked me how much whole milk my daughter was getting a day. I was thinking about saying, oh she is getting a couple of glasses, but I didn't.
Me: "Truthfully, the only time she gets whole milk is if I make her food with it. She is still breastfeeding several times a day."
Pedi.: Long pause. "Well I guess that is okay.... The AAP recommends up to a year [not true], but there is nothing wrong with breastfeeding up to two years. I guess that is okay"
She actually said I guess that is okay several more times in that sentence, but I can't remember exactly how it went. I try to keep cool and tried not to say, Oh Gee Thanks for the permission!
Some more things are said and she asks me if the toothpaste that I am using has fluoride in it. I said no. She says, oh that's good because you know fluoride can really harm a baby and even kill them. Then she asks about my water and asked where I live. I tell her and she says, oh I don't think that part has fluoride in the water. I tell her I don't even drink the water from my sink, we only drink bottled water. So then she tells me she is going to prescribe me fluoride drops! What?! Haha. I just say yeah, but I hadn't planned on actually giving any to her.
So then she says that she will send someone in with the vaccinations. I tell her that I had stopped vaccinating. She looks at the papers and sees that I had stopped.
Pedi.: "Why would you stop after you had already given her most of them."
Me: "I didn't know that I had a choice. I did a lot of research on vaccines and found that they are not only dangerous but most are unnecessary."
Pedi.: "You know that there will be a large breakout of these diseases if everyone decides to stop getting vaccinated."
Me: I kind of laugh at this. "If that were true, I am only one person and I am sure everyone else going here is getting their vaccinations."
Pedi.: "Well, you don't want your daughter to get polio or something dangerous like that."
Me: "The chance of her getting that is very unlikely. Most of the other diseases aren't even that dangerous and the ones that are no one in the U.S. even gets anymore."
Pedi.: "No! No! That isn't true. There have been polio breakouts in Amish communities where they refuse to vaccinate."
I don't know how true that is but I had planned on looking that up later.
Me: "I don't live in an Amish community."
At this time the volume level is starting to get louder on her part. I am trying to stay calm because my daughter is in my arms. Also, I don't want to seem like the psycho mom and give her a reason to call child services on me. A few more stupid things were said on her part and I shot all of them down.
Pedi.: "Autism has never been caused by vaccinations. There is no more mercury in vaccines." [not true].
Me: "They haven't found what causes autism yet, but it is strongly believed that vaccines may cause autism. In fact, most recently, a woman sued the vaccine companies, and won, saying that they caused her daughters autis..."
Pedi.: "She had a gene that predisposed her to autism, and the vaccines just activated it."
Me: Hahaha. "Well, if that is true, then how am I supposed to know that my daughter does or doesn't have this gene?"
I guess that got her really angry because she said okay and turned to walk out. Then she turns back around and says this: "You know if something is wrong with my car I don't go ask a neurosurgeon what is wrong with it, I ask a mechanic. The same is with my child. If I need help with my child I would go by what the AAP says and not about what I have read."
I laughed again. Is this chick serious? "I have done all my research and in the process have read many doctors opinions who have said that they feel vaccines are dangerous and sometimes not necessary. I have also read about the stuff they put in vaccines..." She interrupts me again.
Pedi.: "Okay, okay." She starts to walk out the door and quickly turns around. "Well I guess you don't want the lead test then!"
Me: "Don't they just prick her finger and take her blood for that?"
Pedi: "Yes!"
Me: "Okay, that is fine."
She starts to walk out again and is closing the door, but quickly turns around and yells. "Well, I guess you're not going to give her fluoride drops either because that's a chemical!"
Me: "Actually I wasn't going to give her them anyway, so you can just keep the prescription."
She turns around and walks out, slamming the door.
That was quite an experience, but it wasn't over. She comes back in and asks me to sign a paper that says they told me the risks and I refused to anyway.
Pedi: "You know you'll have to sign this every time you come in."
Me: "Okay."
Pedi: "You had your vaccines and you're fine. Your family had their vaccines and they're fine."
Me: "The schedules I had were different from what she has. I didn't have like 5 vaccinations at once." I really wanted to say, well my grandfather smoked a pack or more a day for most his life but he never developed lung cancer.
Pedi: "The vaccines don't even have live viruses in them anymore, they are all weakened viruses."
Me: "Some have live viruses, and it's not the viruses that bother me, its the chemicals and the possibility of her getting autism. The other vaccinations are kind of ridiculous, like the chicken pox one. I want her to eventually get chicken pox, but she isn't even at risk right now. I had chicken pox and she is getting the antibodies from my breastmilk."
Pedi: "Yeah ... but other ones are dangerous like Pertussis. With pertussis you can cough a lot."
Hahaha! What? That is all you can come up with? Really?
Little more was said and she left. I left a little while later, and that will be the last time I ever go there. I am so tired of getting flack for my choice. My daughter is happy and healthy. The worst she ever got was two ear infections, both right after she got her vaccinations. I don't agree with a lot of choices people make, but why can't they respect the choices I've made. I don't yell at other people who get vaccinated, why yell at me for making a choice that I feel is in the best interest of my daughter and her health?
Today I went for her 15 month check up, and everything went wrong. So the nurse came in and weighed and measured her, she was all good of course. Then she goes over some things. She said something about drinking 24 oz. of whole milk a day, I still breastfeed but I didn't say anything. I just smiled and nodded.
Then she says, "Well, as you know tantrums are all part of the territory". I just kind of laughed because my daughter hasn't thrown a "tantrum" yet. She goes on to say, "Now don't be giving in to her when she throws a tantrum. If you do then she'll realize that she can get away with anything she wants." I stopped smiling at that point. It was hard for me not to say, "Please don't give me parenting advice, woman I don't know." But I managed.
In walks my pediatrician. I always thought she was nice. She was kind of weird and seemed like she was on something. Anyway, she asked me how much whole milk my daughter was getting a day. I was thinking about saying, oh she is getting a couple of glasses, but I didn't.
Me: "Truthfully, the only time she gets whole milk is if I make her food with it. She is still breastfeeding several times a day."
Pedi.: Long pause. "Well I guess that is okay.... The AAP recommends up to a year [not true], but there is nothing wrong with breastfeeding up to two years. I guess that is okay"
She actually said I guess that is okay several more times in that sentence, but I can't remember exactly how it went. I try to keep cool and tried not to say, Oh Gee Thanks for the permission!
Some more things are said and she asks me if the toothpaste that I am using has fluoride in it. I said no. She says, oh that's good because you know fluoride can really harm a baby and even kill them. Then she asks about my water and asked where I live. I tell her and she says, oh I don't think that part has fluoride in the water. I tell her I don't even drink the water from my sink, we only drink bottled water. So then she tells me she is going to prescribe me fluoride drops! What?! Haha. I just say yeah, but I hadn't planned on actually giving any to her.
So then she says that she will send someone in with the vaccinations. I tell her that I had stopped vaccinating. She looks at the papers and sees that I had stopped.
Pedi.: "Why would you stop after you had already given her most of them."
Me: "I didn't know that I had a choice. I did a lot of research on vaccines and found that they are not only dangerous but most are unnecessary."
Pedi.: "You know that there will be a large breakout of these diseases if everyone decides to stop getting vaccinated."
Me: I kind of laugh at this. "If that were true, I am only one person and I am sure everyone else going here is getting their vaccinations."
Pedi.: "Well, you don't want your daughter to get polio or something dangerous like that."
Me: "The chance of her getting that is very unlikely. Most of the other diseases aren't even that dangerous and the ones that are no one in the U.S. even gets anymore."
Pedi.: "No! No! That isn't true. There have been polio breakouts in Amish communities where they refuse to vaccinate."
I don't know how true that is but I had planned on looking that up later.
Me: "I don't live in an Amish community."
At this time the volume level is starting to get louder on her part. I am trying to stay calm because my daughter is in my arms. Also, I don't want to seem like the psycho mom and give her a reason to call child services on me. A few more stupid things were said on her part and I shot all of them down.
Pedi.: "Autism has never been caused by vaccinations. There is no more mercury in vaccines." [not true].
Me: "They haven't found what causes autism yet, but it is strongly believed that vaccines may cause autism. In fact, most recently, a woman sued the vaccine companies, and won, saying that they caused her daughters autis..."
Pedi.: "She had a gene that predisposed her to autism, and the vaccines just activated it."
Me: Hahaha. "Well, if that is true, then how am I supposed to know that my daughter does or doesn't have this gene?"
I guess that got her really angry because she said okay and turned to walk out. Then she turns back around and says this: "You know if something is wrong with my car I don't go ask a neurosurgeon what is wrong with it, I ask a mechanic. The same is with my child. If I need help with my child I would go by what the AAP says and not about what I have read."
I laughed again. Is this chick serious? "I have done all my research and in the process have read many doctors opinions who have said that they feel vaccines are dangerous and sometimes not necessary. I have also read about the stuff they put in vaccines..." She interrupts me again.
Pedi.: "Okay, okay." She starts to walk out the door and quickly turns around. "Well I guess you don't want the lead test then!"
Me: "Don't they just prick her finger and take her blood for that?"
Pedi: "Yes!"
Me: "Okay, that is fine."
She starts to walk out again and is closing the door, but quickly turns around and yells. "Well, I guess you're not going to give her fluoride drops either because that's a chemical!"
Me: "Actually I wasn't going to give her them anyway, so you can just keep the prescription."
She turns around and walks out, slamming the door.
That was quite an experience, but it wasn't over. She comes back in and asks me to sign a paper that says they told me the risks and I refused to anyway.
Pedi: "You know you'll have to sign this every time you come in."
Me: "Okay."
Pedi: "You had your vaccines and you're fine. Your family had their vaccines and they're fine."
Me: "The schedules I had were different from what she has. I didn't have like 5 vaccinations at once." I really wanted to say, well my grandfather smoked a pack or more a day for most his life but he never developed lung cancer.
Pedi: "The vaccines don't even have live viruses in them anymore, they are all weakened viruses."
Me: "Some have live viruses, and it's not the viruses that bother me, its the chemicals and the possibility of her getting autism. The other vaccinations are kind of ridiculous, like the chicken pox one. I want her to eventually get chicken pox, but she isn't even at risk right now. I had chicken pox and she is getting the antibodies from my breastmilk."
Pedi: "Yeah ... but other ones are dangerous like Pertussis. With pertussis you can cough a lot."
Hahaha! What? That is all you can come up with? Really?
Little more was said and she left. I left a little while later, and that will be the last time I ever go there. I am so tired of getting flack for my choice. My daughter is happy and healthy. The worst she ever got was two ear infections, both right after she got her vaccinations. I don't agree with a lot of choices people make, but why can't they respect the choices I've made. I don't yell at other people who get vaccinated, why yell at me for making a choice that I feel is in the best interest of my daughter and her health?
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Jun. 13, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Please don't get me wrong when I say this but there has been an outbreak of measles in the north. Now I don't know if it is because of the parents not vaccinating...but something to think of.
And I agree with you on certain vaccines...I will NOT let my kids get the chicken pox shot and the school system says my 5 year old has to have it to go to school....uuummm NOPE!! And I will NOT let my teen girls get that STUPID cervical cancer vaccine!! The doctor's don't even know how long the shot lasts!!! Now they are saying that the girls will need a boster shot! HA not my girls!!!
ROCK ON MOM!!! You are not alone!
Jun. 13, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Yeah I heard about the measles thing. There were several versions of it, one is that almost all of them were vaccinated, another version was that most weren't. I don't know for sure. Measles is one of those disease that really isn't that terrible. The only thing bad about it is that it is so contagious. When you get measles, you only get a really bad cough and fever (maybe), then that goes away and you get a rash. The treatment is bed-rest and liquids, just like any other flu. Also, a lot of children's bodies can make their own immunities to diseases like measles and mumps.
But I see what you're saying. I know a lot of schools try to scare parents into getting their children vaccinated, but every state has a law that says you do not have to vaccinate your child for religious (or moral) reasons or for medical reasons, sometimes both are accepted.
It was a bad day all around. I didn't even realize until I was half-way through it that is was Friday the 13th. Haha.
Jun. 17, 2008 at 2:41 AM
Wow I don't think I could have kept my cool. I get so angry when I hear crap from my mom about not having my kids vaccinated. I also breastfeed and my mom think's I should wean my 8 month old and give him nonfat milk because he's to fat. It's so hard to change peoples way's of thinking. I give it 10 more years before people realize that these shots are the cause for many cancers, and serious problems in people.
Jun. 17, 2008 at 2:49 AM
Wow! You are amazing to keep your cool like that! I would have come unglued at the tantrum advice! Way to go!
Jan. 22, 2009 at 11:21 AM
What I find amuzing is the flouride thing...she tells you that it's not good for them and can kill babies, and then turns around and prescribes flouride drops! WTF? LMAO People just don't ask questions anymore!
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